Who's Laughing at Travis Frederick Now?

The Natural

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I think that's probably accurate. For some reason he doesn't get the admiration that he deserves, but probably because he's not a big name or on the popular bandwagon team of the year (Seattle, etc.)

He has a chance to put the league on notice Sunday
 

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Ok I love Frederick as our center he is playing great but for those arguing his value if we stayed put who would we have gotten? and would we still have been able to get Frederick and Williams
 

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He has a chance to put the league on notice Sunday

I still don't think he'll get talked about. Tyron Smith, MAYBE, but they'll talk more about what is wrong with Seattle than about Frederick pushing dudes around on the line of scrimmage.

Right now, if you selected it, I think the Pro Bowl should be the entire Dallas offensive line. They are playing that good in the NFC.
 

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umm, thats not exactly how this thing works...its a nice try though

if you draft a guy WHERE you had him slotted to be drafted...AND he performs better than that...you got a steal...

Fred was a steal

you and your internet dork scouts who had diff grades on him were clearly wrong...

You clearly lack the intelligence to understand something as simple as Market Value.

If a Product (in this case Freddy) is deemed by the Market (the NFL) to have a certain Price (a draft grade) and you give up more than that that "market price" than you OVER PAID. (Reached)

Its not me and "internet dork scouts" it was the conscientious. Here's CBS sports ranking.
PROJECTED RANKING
OVERALLPOSITIONPROJ. RND.
5312

And these are similar and multiple. Just us "internet dorks"

RIGHT!


Now compound that with the fact that we are thin on D and could have drafted a Defensive player in the first round and still gotten Fred in the second instead of a worthless (to this point) TE then the Product would meet or exceed the "market value" .
 

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Guess when they got Tony Romo as an UDFA...so bought what most people thought was a lemon, but turned into a Ferrari....


By most logic on this board we should have drafted Tony in the first round with a top ten pick, sat him on the bench and waited then made it worth it! right? He worked out so that's the right way... right?

Oh wait, no, that's not right... :hammer:
 

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Ok I love Frederick as our center he is playing great but for those arguing his value if we stayed put who would we have gotten? and would we still have been able to get Frederick and Williams

Yeah people forget that trade netted us Williams as well. 5 TD grabs Williams. Williams-that-is-going-to-force-teams-not-to-double-cover-Dez-Bryant, Williams.
 

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I will still and will always say it was a serious reach...

If you buy a car worth 15k dollars for 25k dollars and it runs great and runs for 10 years... you still paid 10k to much for it.

True however TFred plays like a $100,000 vehicle at his position so $25K was still a steal...
 
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I will still and will always say it was a serious reach...

If you buy a car worth 15k dollars for 25k dollars and it runs great and runs for 10 years... you still paid 10k to much for it.

Maybe, but the cars' performance softens the blow of overpaying a little.
 

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Is Frederick really better than Alex Mack? Mack has been really good for a long time..
 

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I will still and will always say it was a serious reach...

If you buy a car worth 15k dollars for 25k dollars and it runs great and runs for 10 years... you still paid 10k to much for it.

Or you buy a car for 15k thats worth 250k and runs the way a 250k would run. Would that be a serious reach?
 

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Travis Fredrick is quickly becoming one of my favorite players. I love having an extremely smart center. I also see him becoming a team leader which I love as well. Just a great, great draft pick.
 

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I will still and will always say it was a serious reach...

If you buy a car worth 15k dollars for 25k dollars and it runs great and runs for 10 years... you still paid 10k to much for it.

holy cow im so glad youre not our GM.
 

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I will still and will always say it was a serious reach...

If you buy a car worth 15k dollars for 25k dollars and it runs great and runs for 10 years... you still paid 10k to much for it.

Until you consider appreciating and depreciating assets. Frederick is an appreciating asset, and will be for a few years.
 

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You clearly lack the intelligence to understand something as simple as Market Value.

If a Product (in this case Freddy) is deemed by the Market (the NFL) to have a certain Price (a draft grade) and you give up more than that that "market price" than you OVER PAID. (Reached)

Its not me and "internet dork scouts" it was the conscientious. Here's CBS sports ranking.
PROJECTED RANKING
OVERALLPOSITIONPROJ. RND.
5312

And these are similar and multiple. Just us "internet dorks"

RIGHT!


Now compound that with the fact that we are thin on D and could have drafted a Defensive player in the first round and still gotten Fred in the second instead of a worthless (to this point) TE then the Product would meet or exceed the "market value" .

Wow, you still think we reached. This is a different offense without Travis Frederick. He wouldn't even fall to us if this draft were done over.
 

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Ok I love Frederick as our center he is playing great but for those arguing his value if we stayed put who would we have gotten? and would we still have been able to get Frederick and Williams

That's what we don't know. But Frederick wasn't on too many pundits' radar. Not that that means much because the public "experts" sometimes have a player ranked differently than the secret scouting information teams have. I'll admit, I make an assumption that Frederick wasn't ranked high, but I don't know. Something caused Dallas to pick him in the first. And it's very likely if Dallas had him on their radar, and few if any of us knew this, then some other teams may have had him on their radar too.

But it's all good. The pick turned out to be a great one.
 

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By most logic on this board we should have drafted Tony in the first round with a top ten pick, sat him on the bench and waited then made it worth it! right? He worked out so that's the right way... right?

Oh wait, no, that's not right... :hammer:

I guess that makes sense to you...I don't understand your point....
I have never seen anyone ever post we should have got Tony in the 1st round, even hypothetically. But I don't get read every thread or post either.
 

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Wow, you still think we reached. This is a different offense without Travis Frederick. He wouldn't even fall to us if this draft were done over.

From what I recall the Ravens were going to use a high first on him...
 
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