Why are fans so afraid of taking a RB early?

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A RB can be found later. But I will settle for a inferior running back just to take a guard or a DT that won't even start for me this year? Or have that much of a impact? I mean let's be honest here....Hankins and Diggy are our starting DT's. Any guard we draft will be a backup.
Remember tyron maybe the swing tackle and will for sure get injured. Again. As henhas been injured every year in thenpast 6 years. We lost McGovern. Peters will be gone. Hankins needs to be coming off the bench and a rotational.guy. our 1Tech sucks.
 

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Chiefs literally just used a 1st rounder on a RB two seasons ago lol.

I believe the best teams win the SB typically.

I'm just not of the belief that reaching for a guard is better than drafting Bijan just because I can get a running back in the 4th. I can get a guard in the 4th too.
But their 1st round pick RB had as much to do with them winning the SB as Saquon did for NYG and Fournette did with Jax. All they got out of Edwards Eclaire was regret. Even the chiefs make bad picks now and then.

It doesn’t have to be a reach for a guard. Not all draft picks are reaches. This is the same area Tyler smith was picked, a player more valuable than Bijan could ever be (if he maintains his current development)
 

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Chiefs literally just used a 1st rounder on a RB two seasons ago lol.

I believe the best teams win the SB typically.

I'm just not of the belief that reaching for a guard is better than drafting Bijan just because I can get a running back in the 4th. I can get a guard in the 4th too.
They did. And he is a rotational guy. Don't you think they regret that decision.
 

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What's not realistic to me is thinking a TB, not a better OL, is the missing key to winning.

We literally just went through this for 5-6 years and yet you guys want to repeat it all over again.
Our Oline was awesome though.

Pollard averages 5 yards a carry behind this Oline.

Most teams don’t have near the offensive line we have anyways. The entire league has awful Oline play outside of a few teams.

I just don’t think a guard has the impact that a RB does.
 

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Chiefs literally just used a 1st rounder on a RB two seasons ago lol.

I believe the best teams win the SB typically.

I'm just not of the belief that reaching for a guard is better than drafting Bijan just because I can get a running back in the 4th. I can get a guard in the 4th too.
And that TB was decent, not great his rookie year rushing for 800 yards. He's gotten banged up and gone downhill since and now looks to likely have been replaced by a later round pick heading into the 2023 season.

The Chiefs taking Hyde in Rd 1 doesn't actually strengthen the argument we should use our top pick on a TB.
 

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I mean I'd have no issue with a edge rusher either....the problem in 2016 it just wasn't much there. When Bosa was gone it put us in a tough spot.
Go back to 2016. Would you rather have CB Ramsey and RB Henry, or just Zeke? I'm not saying we would have done that. But a Ramsey/Henry was possible in the first two rounds. A Zeke/Ramsey was not. You can often find very good RBs later, and that's why the Eagles will not draft Bijan. Because they can get a top 10 player and a good RB. Maybe even Gibbs. Instead of just Bijan.

But from our position at 26, I can see the possibility of a RB just from a lack of a better choice.
 

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A RB can be found later. But I will settle for a inferior running back just to take a guard or a DT that won't even start for me this year? Or have that much of a impact? I mean let's be honest here....Hankins and Diggy are our starting DT's. Any guard we draft will be a backup.
Actually an OG drafted could start for us. Steele, despite people claiming otherwise, will likely will not be available to start the season. Just like Gallup, people are being aggressive with his return date. Further, Tyron Smith has missed a lot of games over the years. There's a very good chance he's going to be hurt again and that would mean a first round OG would likely play a lot this year.
 

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The biggest talking point I keep seeing about the whole "don't take a RB early" is because you can get one in later rounds and they don't last long.

Is it not a asset to take a RB in the 1st round?

I get him for 4 years with a option year which is 5 years on a favorable rookie deal.

I can think franchise him for one year at 11-12 million......

I'm getting 6 years of a guys young prime career on a affordable deal and I'm getting one of the better RB prospects in this draft....

Will you get 6 prime years out of any other position not Quarterback? Maybe wide receiver?

I'm just trying to figure out why should I be afraid to take a RB early like others seem to be. If I was the Eagles and had the 10th pick in the draft I for sure would think long and hard about Bijan Robinson.
They don't want to draft a RB early because they want to get a career out of an early pick.

But I wonder.

Those Cowboy Career players have been a lot of our overpaid players. Maybe we'd do better if we planned on fewer of them. Or at least less money into them.

Try to get a good deal out of a player we like after his 3rd season. If we get a good deal, we keep him. Otherwise we plan to move on. That probably leaves us with more middle tier signings of our own guys, and the top tier guys leaving, but we find that a lot of those top tier guys end up dropping down a tier when we sign them anyway.

In short, the value of those career players may be less than supposed, and drafting guys for the value they bring in their rookie contracts may make more sense.
 

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I got no problem with that but do we best San Fran with a better pass rush?

We can’t depend on Dak’s arm come playoff time. We’re in hear 8 and he’s not that guy in the playoffs.

This, need more speed on offense that can take it to the house.
 

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They did. And he is a rotational guy. Don't you think they regret that decision.
I mean they won a SB without having to use him....how can you have regrets about winning a SB? I get what you're saying but I'm just saying people are trying to say taking a 1st round RB will hurt you but not only did the Chiefs do it but they didnt' even give the guy burn and it didn't hurt them.
 

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I mean they won a SB without having to use him....how can you have regrets about winning a SB? I get what you're saying but I'm just saying people are trying to say taking a 1st round RB will hurt you but not only did the Chiefs do it but they didnt' even give the guy burn and it didn't hurt them.
Not regret superbowl. But regret drafting a player that's pretty much a backup. They won in 2022. But could they have won it in 2021?
 

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And I'm gonna be honest with you....I see some special talent that can improve this team RIGHT NOW....a few of those guys are RB's...
Indeed, this RB draft class has a few speed demons with hands that would instantly make MM look like a genius.
BJ and Gibbs are your tier 1, but this tier 2 is uber deep with WC scheme RBs.
 

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The biggest talking point I keep seeing about the whole "don't take a RB early" is because you can get one in later rounds and they don't last long.

Is it not a asset to take a RB in the 1st round?

I get him for 4 years with a option year which is 5 years on a favorable rookie deal.

I can think franchise him for one year at 11-12 million......

I'm getting 6 years of a guys young prime career on a affordable deal and I'm getting one of the better RB prospects in this draft....

Will you get 6 prime years out of any other position not Quarterback? Maybe wide receiver?

I'm just trying to figure out why should I be afraid to take a RB early like others seem to be. If I was the Eagles and had the 10th pick in the draft I for sure would think long and hard about Bijan Robinson.
Why do so many fear picking a 1st round RB?

They’ve bought into the lies perpetuated my the sports media.
 

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If we were lucky enough to get the next Christian McCafree, I’d be all in.

quality player and quality work ethic…….no load management for that cat needed
IF we don't come away first day with a RB, Spears wouldn't be a bad consolation day 2.
A backfield of Pollard and Spears would be disturbing to defensive coordinators everywhere.
 

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What if Bijan has a better 2023 but a worse 2024-2027? Is that first round value to you? You cant take guys just based on what they’re unlikely to do as 21-22 year old rookies. You’re drafting for the future of your franchise
You would take Bijan at 10 and be happy.
 

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How could this possibly compare to Carson? You could take any player and then make up a scenario where that player gets hurt and your GM goes above and beyond to get the team in championship position. You keep bringing up Mccaffrey, but you don’t win a ring with him. Carolina was just the same with or without him. SF was already good before he got there, he helps sure, but not like Bosa; not even in the same stratosphere. They made it to the exact same spot they were at before they even had Mccaffrey. Not unlike Dallas and Zeke.

Would you pay Christian Mccaffrey 25-35m$ AAV? Never, because he is not worth it due to the position he plays. He’s barely worth half that.

If you only won 11 games in 2016, that still wins the division. Home playoff game round 1 vs a lesser wild card and then you lose round 2. That’s the same season. Regular season wins is no team’s barometer. You had an Uber talented 2016 roster. You didn’t need Ezekiel Elliot to get snuffed out in the second round. In the Ezekiel Elliot era, you’ve made a couple second round appearances, but If you had a better pass rush, that could have been the difference in both SF games; If you had a better Dline, the different in 2018 LAR giant rushing day or 2016 when you couldnt quite stop Rodgers in the end.
Your points are direct, valid and accurate, but you're speaking from an Eagles fan perspective.
You don't have a Dak to deal with..
 

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The biggest talking point I keep seeing about the whole "don't take a RB early" is because you can get one in later rounds and they don't last long
Is it not a asset to take a RB in the 1st round?

I get him for 4 years with a option year which is 5 years on a favorable rookie deal.

I can think franchise him for one year at 11-12 million......

I'm getting 6 years of a guys young prime career on a affordable deal and I'm getting one of the better RB prospects in this draft....

Will you get 6 prime years out of any other position not Quarterback? Maybe wide receiver?

I'm just trying to figure out why should I be afraid to take a RB early like others seem to be. If I was the Eagles and had the 10th pick in the draft I for sure would think long and hard about Bijan Robinson.
Of the top 12 running backs in NFL history, 6 were instrumental in helping their teams win Super Bowls; 2 more played in Super Bowls; only 4 never played in a Super Bowl.

Of the top 12 pass rushers in NFL history, only 5 were instrumental in leading their teams to Super Bowl wins; 3 more played in Super Bowls, and 4 never played in a Super Bowl.

Of the top 12 running backs, 10 were 1st round picks. Of those 10, only Emmitt Smith was not a top 10 pick. 2 others were 3rd round picks, both of whom reached the Super Bowl, but didn’t win.

Saying that top running backs are not important to winning Super Bowls makes about as much sense as saying you shouldn’t spend a 1st round pick on a pass rusher. It is completely ahistorical nonsense.
 

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It's all because Jerry paid Zeke to soon ........ Zeke on his rookie contract for 5 years with option and then one franchise would have been phenomenal.

Taking a great running back in the first round is not dumb ....... Jerry and son paying them early is.
 
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