Why are we still in salary cap hell?

[Stash]

Whatever you need to tell yourself

The truth. I tell myself the truth.

But it's good that everyone gets to see that you lie and make up numbers in an attempt to suit your agenda.

Credibility zero.

 

[Nightman]

The truth. I tell myself the truth.

But it's good that everyone gets to see that you lie and make up numbers in an attempt to suit your agenda.

Credibility zero.

No you don't have any credibility ....you asked about missed games.....got shut up...again...... and still carry on like a baby......even Adam told you are wrong

 

[Stash]

No you don't have any credibility ....you asked about missed games.....got shut up...again...... and still carry on like a baby......even Adam told you are wrong

Now you're going to try the name-calling route? Does somebody need a time out?

He didn't say anything about the lies you tried to spread. Again, you try and fail to divert from the truth.

You've been exposed.

 

[Nightman]

Now you're going to try the name-calling route? Does somebody need a time out?

He didn't say anything about the lies you tried to spread. Again, you try and fail to divert from the truth.

You've been exposed.

Child please

 

[Stash]

Child please

Quit while you're behind.

 

[Silverstar]

According to cap sites, the Cowboys will be 2.5 million or so under when it goes up to 168? million at the start of the league year.

I'm sure there will be restructuring of some current contracts almost immediately, to open up more space and sign some of our players back.

After that, one can only speculate who they try and bring in to help us improve.

 

[Risen Star]

Get it thru your thick head......they don't want to sign Leary and his explosive knees

You know it's the end of the road for a player when you see them turn like this.

Mike Winicki is probably prank calling his house.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Especially when you're overpaying players on bad contracts.

I don't want to hear about a team that can "do whatever they want" while watching that team stand by and watch as quality free agents walk out the door. There is no cap on paying good players when you have them. But when you're wasting it on guys who aren't worth what they're getting paid, you don't have enough to "do whatever you want".

They can sign Leary to a market deal if they want and the opportunity cost is being able to bring in guys for defense. Being able to do what they want doesnt mean they can sign every FA your heart desires.

They can open up $19m. $5m of it will go to the draft picks. McClain, Irving, and the secondary guys are going to take a good amount too. We still need a WR and a DE as well.

those last two are your opportunity cost and given we have Collins on the roster making $550k, it just does not make sense to pay $8+m AAV on top of the $12m Tyron gets, $10m TFred gets, the $5m Free gets and the $12m Martin will demand soon.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Get it through yours, Crawford is a huge, overpaid, mistake that continues to haunt this team.
And that's why the Cowboys can't keep Leary.

And who's missed more time and been less effective? Crawford with his Achilles, and two shoulder surgeries or Leary and his "expolsive knees"?

Outside of you, everybody knows the truth.

Sure Crawford would be better making $5m as opposed to the $7m he is supposed to make. If Crawford was not here he would be replaced by someone else given that he has been a starter and we would have to pay that guy.

It still does not make sense to be paying over a quarter of your cap on the 5 players starting at OL. You need to field a defense.

 

[Verdict]

Especially when you're overpaying players on bad contracts.

I don't want to hear about a team that can "do whatever they want" while watching that team stand by and watch as quality free agents walk out the door. There is no cap on paying good players when you have them. But when you're wasting it on guys who aren't worth what they're getting paid, you don't have enough to "do whatever you want".

Ask yourself would you rather have Leary, who is a top player in his prime who would probably play out a 4 year contract, Jason Witten at his cap number or Crawford at his cap hit?

Leary is worth more than either one of those guys at the cap hit each one carries.

You could trade Collins for a draft pick, or picks, and it would be a wash and keep the team on track. Instead we pay Dez $70 million to disappear in big games, Witten for a feel good story, and Crawford for his versatility (jack of all trades-master of none).

 

[Idgit]

Leary is not resigning in Dallas, and not because of our cap situation.

If we're spending money on FAs, it had better be on defense.

 

[Verdict]

Sure Crawford would be better making $5m as opposed to the $7m he is supposed to make. If Crawford was not here he would be replaced by someone else given that he has been a starter and we would have to pay that guy.

It still does not make sense to be paying over a quarter of your cap on the 5 players starting at OL. You need to field a defense.

Agreed. But it doesn't have to be Leary who departs. It could be Witten and his 30 second 40 yard dash.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Agreed. But it doesn't have to be Leary who departs. It could be Witten and his 30 second 40 yard dash.

Repeat after me: it is not good cap allocation to spend a third of your cap on 4 players in one position group.

Witten had 70 catches at 10 ypc. Witten is not going anywhere. Nevermind the gaping hole you are leaving at TE. It's not like at guard where you have Collins ready to go.

 

[rockj7]

But we do have a couple salary cap problems, Tyrone Crawford being at the head of the table on this matter

Tyrone is the New Brandon Carr

 

[Verdict]

They can sign Leary to a market deal if they want and the opportunity cost is being able to bring in guys for defense. Being able to do what they want doesnt mean they can sign every FA your heart desires.

They can open up $19m. $5m of it will go to the draft picks. McClain, Irving, and the secondary guys are going to take a good amount too. We still need a WR and a DE as well.

those last two are your opportunity cost and given we have Collins on the roster making $550k, it just does not make sense to pay $8+m AAV on top of the $12m Tyron gets, $10m TFred gets, the $5m Free gets and the $12m Martin will demand soon.

It is true that there is an opportunity cost to resigning Leary. That is the nature of the cap. EVERY contract on every player has some degree of cap implications.

Having said that It is true that signing Leary will have some opportunity cost going forward. They probably won't resign him. But is is a legitimate debate whether that is a good decision, or not.

Keeping Witten, Dez, Crawford and Romo (and I'm a huge Romo fan) also has an opportunity cost. Those 4 contracts are a HUGE chunk of our cap and it should be evaluated constantly whether they are worth their cap hit.

Each one of those contracts is equally an impediment to us signing free agent defenders as is resigning Leary. A cap dollar spent on every player carries the same weight. That's why is is critical to have good contracts.

It is not realistic for every contract to turn out to be a long term good decision by the organization because a team can't see the future. But it is important to cut bait if the cap hit, etc., will allow you to move on from that player.

Everyone wants to cut Romo and from a cap savings standpoint it would save cap dollars eventually. On the other hand he can still play at a very high level. The issue is can he stay healthy.

Witten is still valuable to our team too, but he is not worth his salary. We need to leverage these situations into pay cuts and use that money to improve the defense. There is more than one way to skin this cat.

 

[Verdict]

Repeat after me: it is not good cap allocation to spend a third of your cap on 4 players in one position group.

Witten had 70 catches at 10 ypc. Witten is not going anywhere. Nevermind the gaping hole you are leaving at TE. It's not like at guard where you have Collins ready to go.

That's a great argument. I agree with it somewhat. But having Witten around has an opportunity cost and that cost is Leary.

Witten isn't a very good blocker anymore. Hanna can do everything he does a hell of a lot cheaper. In fact Swaim may also be better than Witten and he was a late round pick. Witten is like a sacred cow around here.

 

[Idgit]

That's a great argument. I agree with it somewhat. But having Witten around has an opportunity cost and that cost is Leary.

Witten isn't a very good blocker anymore. Hanna can do everything he does a hell of a lot cheaper. In fact Swaim may also be better than Witten and he was a late round pick. Witten is like a sacred cow around here.

Neither of those guys is as good as Witten. But it doesn't matter. Jason Witten is a sacred cow with the organization. He can play until he wants to stop playing.

 

[Verdict]

Nothing you say is correct........Crawford has NOTHING to do with Leary

He is your boogeyman and its quite boring

Crawford has something to do with everything. His cap number says he does. Is he worth his cap number or the tradeoff vs other players is a legitimate question but his cap number is a finite quantity.

 

[Verdict]

Neither of those guys is as good as Witten. But it doesn't matter. Jason Witten is a sacred cow with the organization. He can play until he wants to stop playing.

Quite honestly I respectfully disagree with you. Both of them are way better than Witten in every category except the mental aspects of the game. I will grant you that it is hard to quantify what that means to the overall team but Wittens best days are behind him and pale in comparison to his cap number.

Ware was a hell of a lot better player than Witten is relative to their cap numbers. If we had to let one walk it is arguable we let the wrong one walk.

 

[Verdict]

Neither of those guys is as good as Witten. But it doesn't matter. Jason Witten is a sacred cow with the organization. He can play until he wants to stop playing.

If he wants to play until he is 100 we should honor his wishes. Lol. How idiotic is that? If we go by that thought process Romo should be playing too until he is in his 50s because he "wants to". Lol