Why are we taking so much risk on our roster when we are supposed to be contending in the NFC

[rambo2]

The opportunity to fix the OL and K should have been done months ago.

I suspect we'll be scouring the cuts lists for OL help, however.

Every team in the league has a depth problem in the oline and the Cowboys like the kicker that they have.

 

[rambo2]

Simple answer? You have an owner/GM that's overly optimistic and is too busy bragging about what's there to notice what's missing.

Good GM's do not stop turning the stones over, they are forever in "not good enough" mode.

But then, 30 other GM's answer to someone who will take action if they fail to deliver.

The Cowboys are a top 3 team in the NFC and you think they are doing a bad job.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You pretty much insinuated I said we’re fine at kicker. I never came close to saying we’re fine at kicker. I said some of you act like they’re great kickers available. You claimed we mismanaged at kicker. How so?

Look.....its just an opinion. If you dont agree...whatever could i say to change your mind? Sounds like you looking for a throwdown or something.

We had tryouts in tc. No biggie. Looks like still not completley settled with season fast approaching. We ignored it or took with a grain of salt.
You either arent worried....or raised white flag about it. So what.....no biggie. Doesnt really matter.
We could arm wrestle or sumpin.

 

[Praxit]

Who would you sign at

Kicker?
Offense Line?
Running Back?

Specifically what players available would you sign?

...sign Peters as quality back up to OL. As for kicker? Your guess, good as mine.

 

[KJJ]

Look.....its just an opinion. If you dont agree...whatever could i say to change your mind? Sounds like you looking for a throwdown or something.

We had tryouts in tc. No biggie. Looks like still not completley settled with season fast approaching. We ignored it or took with a grain of salt.
You either arent worried....or raised white flag about it. So what.....no biggie. Doesnt really matter.
We could arm wrestle or sumpin.

I’m not looking to stir things up. We’re all worried about our kicker situation, but you can only choose from the kickers that are available. I simply commented that some of you act like there’s a bunch of good kickers out there. I didn’t direct that post at you or anyone else. You responded saying “And so we're mismanaged enough to be one of the teams without them?” Being without a consistent kicker had nothing to do with mismanaging. You seem to be one of those that thinks there’s a lot of good kickers available and we’re passing them up. Lol We moved on from Brett Maher, because he began to struggle with PATs and is still struggling this preseason with Denver. Every team who released their kicker because they went into a funk is in the same boat we’re in. All any team can do is bring in rookie kickers or veterans who’ve been released and hope they can find their mojo again. Do you have a list of good kickers we could’ve brought in? Do you know of any team that got rid of a consistent kicker? I’m just asking.

 

[Proof]

How much we’ve improved remains to be seen. There’s plenty of questions going into the season. We have a new offense with a new play caller. Our depth on the OL is very questionable. Our starters are solid, but there’s a big drop off with the backups. There’s questions at RB2. There’s some out there who think our offense could drop off this season, especially if Dak continues to throw picks. Our defense looks very solid and could take another jump this season, but I’m not going to be sold until I see if we can maintain our level of play throughout the season. I want to see our defense continue to improve as the season goes on, not begin to sputter out.

our depth at OL is relatively the same with the exception that tyron and steele are both 'healthy' currently. there was questions at rb2 last year or at least the designation /utilization. we added a high end wr2 and gallup is another year removed from injury. we added a former dpoy to our already talented secondary, and spent a 1st round pick on a legit NT. there is no question (on paper) that they've improved significantly

 

[KJJ]

our depth at OL is relatively the same with the exception that tyron and steele are both 'healthy' currently. there was questions at rb2 last year or at least the designation /utilization. we added a high end wr2 and gallup is another year removed from injury. we added a former dpoy to our already talented secondary, and spent a 1st round pick on a legit NT. there is no question (on paper) that they've improved significantly

Everyone who covers the Cowboys seems to think there’s a big drop off once you get past our starters on the OL. It’s only a matter of time before something comes up with Tyron. There wasn’t any questions at RB2 last season. It was a Zeke and Pollard. Zeke wasn’t as terrible as fans make him out to be. He moved the chains a lot on third down and scored 12 rushing TDs. His running style wore on defenses. We may have to go with a committee at RB2 this season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There wasn’t any questions at RB2 last season.

We must have been watching different Cowboys games. The last half of the season especially Zeke was borderline awful.

 

[Jarntt]

At kicker we have a totally unproven guy that even if he turns out good will at best be as Gould last year and at worst kills our season?
At runningback we are putting all our faith that Pollard stays healthy and if he gets hurt then what we have no proven backs behind him?
At oline we have 5 good starters but any injury and it will immediately fall apart?

We have 18 million dollars in cap money? Make one year deals? There is legitimately no excuse to take so many risks on what should be a contending team. To me it feels like they want to be competitive but don't want to take the necessary steps to actually push us over the top.

I'm comfortable waiting on the 1st two to see how the guys on the team play out over the next few weeks, as options are always available for both positions. I totally agree with you on the OL. We must (and I think we will) add a guy before week 1, or should I say before week 2 as if keeps a veterans contract from guaranteeing. Imagine this OL with Pugh added? His best position is LG, can play either OG at a good level and can also play RT. Well worth whatever he will cost on a team that we know will need to use at least one backup OL this year

 

[coult44]

Some of you act like there’s a bunch of good kickers and RBs available. There aren’t!

Some of them act like we need a running back at all. Doesn’t matter who they have. Pollard along with one other guy who can get 4 yards a carry and block every once in a while wil do. None of them can name the starting running back in last year’s superbowl, I’d bet a million they couldn’t name the second team running backs. It’s just mind boggling

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

our depth at OL is relatively the same with the exception that tyron and steele are both 'healthy' currently. there was questions at rb2 last year or at least the designation /utilization. we added a high end wr2 and gallup is another year removed from injury. we added a former dpoy to our already talented secondary, and spent a 1st round pick on a legit NT. there is no question (on paper) that they've improved significantly

And we lost McGovern who love him or hate him was a proven backup we could rely on in a pinch unlike what we have now.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I’m not looking to stir things up. We’re all worried about our kicker situation, but you can only choose from the kickers that are available. I simply commented that some of you act like there’s a bunch of good kickers out there. I didn’t direct that post at you or anyone else. You responded saying “And so we're mismanaged enough to be one of the teams without them?” Being without a consistent kicker had nothing to do with mismanaging. You seem to be one of those that thinks there’s a lot of good kickers available and we’re passing them up. Lol We moved on from Brett Maher, because he began to struggle with PATs and is still struggling this preseason with Denver. Every team who released their kicker because they went into a funk is in the same boat we’re in. All any team can do is bring in rookie kickers or veterans who’ve been released and hope they can find their mojo again. Do you have a list of good kickers we could’ve brought in? Do you know of any team that got rid of a consistent kicker? I’m just asking.

1st off....I never said there were a plenty of ace kickers out there. (This is the 2nd time I have had to say that!)

2ndly...there is no absolute requirement to have a solution already in place when you identify a concern or problem.

SO what if there's nothing better available. It could still be a problem. An unsolvable problem is STILL...a problem.


I'm not saying it is...or isn't. That's how a question or concern works. Uncertainty.


If you aren't trying to stir things up...I have no idea what you are doing. So I need a list of available great kickers....if I'm to be worried a jag will lose some games?

I don't get it.

(and yes...I do know even an ace kicker will lose some too....)

 

[fairviewfarmer]

At kicker we have a totally unproven guy that even if he turns out good will at best be as Gould last year and at worst kills our season?
At runningback we are putting all our faith that Pollard stays healthy and if he gets hurt then what we have no proven backs behind him?
At oline we have 5 good starters but any injury and it will immediately fall apart?

We have 18 million dollars in cap money? Make one year deals? There is legitimately no excuse to take so many risks on what should be a contending team. To me it feels like they want to be competitive but don't want to take the necessary steps to actually push us over the top.

Salary cap is why.

 

[offlimits]

At kicker we have a totally unproven guy that even if he turns out good will at best be as Gould last year and at worst kills our season?
At runningback we are putting all our faith that Pollard stays healthy and if he gets hurt then what we have no proven backs behind him?
At oline we have 5 good starters but any injury and it will immediately fall apart?

We have 18 million dollars in cap money? Make one year deals? There is legitimately no excuse to take so many risks on what should be a contending team. To me it feels like they want to be competitive but don't want to take the necessary steps to actually push us over the top.

Neither current kicker on this roster will be the PK on day 1. Might see a familiar name return.

 

[john van brocklin]

Kickers can lose games, but they're never the reason a team is a contender. Even the best kickers can miss huge kicks. Ask the 2005 Colts and the 1998 Vikings.

Fair enough..
Would still like a money kicker,
But, Hey, I understand that they don't grow on trees!

 

[rambo2]

1st off....I never said there were a plenty of ace kickers out there. (This is the 2nd time I have had to say that!)

2ndly...there is no absolute requirement to have a solution already in place when you identify a concern or problem.

SO what if there's nothing better available. It could still be a problem. An unsolvable problem is STILL...a problem.


I'm not saying it is...or isn't. That's how a question or concern works. Uncertainty.


If you aren't trying to stir things up...I have no idea what you are doing. So I need a list of available great kickers....if I'm to be worried a jag will lose some games?

I don't get it.

(and yes...I do know even an ace kicker will lose some too....)

Seriously, what is wrong with the kicker that they have?

 

[Flamma]

Wasn't there a chargers team recently that had the number 1 defense and offense but missed the playoffs due to shakey kicking?


The 2010 Chargers are noted for having both the No. 1-ranked offense and defense, the first team to do so since the 1996 Green Bay Packers. However, a struggling special teams unit would help cause the Chargers to lose five of their first seven games, each of which was by a one-possession margin. From wiki

It doesn't ring a bell. But something bad had to happen in order for a #1 offense and defense to miss the playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

1st off....I never said there were a plenty of ace kickers out there. (This is the 2nd time I have had to say that!)

2ndly...there is no absolute requirement to have a solution already in place when you identify a concern or problem.

SO what if there's nothing better available. It could still be a problem. An unsolvable problem is STILL...a problem.


I'm not saying it is...or isn't. That's how a question or concern works. Uncertainty.


If you aren't trying to stir things up...I have no idea what you are doing. So I need a list of available great kickers....if I'm to be worried a jag will lose some games?

I don't get it.

(and yes...I do know even an ace kicker will lose some too....)

I said some of you act like there’s plenty of great kickers out there. I wasn’t even referring to you. You responded to a comment I made to no one in particular. If there’s no better solution at kicker out there than there was no mismanagement by the Cowboys. What I was doing was simply pointing out that your statement that we mismanaged the situation was wrong. There’s really no point in continuing this.

 

[KJJ]

Some of them act like we need a running back at all. Doesn’t matter who they have. Pollard along with one other guy who can get 4 yards a carry and block every once in a while wil do. None of them can name the starting running back in last year’s superbowl, I’d bet a million they couldn’t name the second team running backs. It’s just mind boggling

If our second back is asked to run between the tackles a lot and bang the ball into the endzone from 3 yards out, it may not be that easy for them to get 4 yards a carry. If we can’t squeeze out a yard or two when needed, or punch the ball into the end zone, it’s going to lead to trouble.

 

[Rockport]

At kicker we have a totally unproven guy that even if he turns out good will at best be as Gould last year and at worst kills our season?
At runningback we are putting all our faith that Pollard stays healthy and if he gets hurt then what we have no proven backs behind him?
At oline we have 5 good starters but any injury and it will immediately fall apart?

We have 18 million dollars in cap money? Make one year deals? There is legitimately no excuse to take so many risks on what should be a contending team. To me it feels like they want to be competitive but don't want to take the necessary steps to actually push us over the top.

Micah can kick if needed and can also play RB if needed. With him at RB, there’s no need for an offensive line. Just a center to hike to Dak to hand off to #11.