Why can't we trade Dak to a team that absorbs some of his contract?

[JBS]

This won’t work with Dak because the dead cap Dallas will take has already been paid to him. I’ll give you an example of what you’re thinking of:

Cleveland owed Baker Mayfield 18m in fully guaranteed salary this season. They wanted to trade him, but no one would take that deal. So Cleveland agreed to pay 3/4 of his salary to get him off the books. When Dallas trades Dak, all of his salary goes to the other team. The only absorbing of salary that can happen is if Dallas agreed to pay some of it for the new team, which is the opposite of what you want.

But the big cap numbers and dead money Dallas takes on in a trade is because of guarantees they’ve already paid Dak that are spread to future years. It’s not money you can get back unless Dak agrees to write Dallas a check for 30m$, which will never happen. Restructure (guaranteeing he’s a cowboys for more years and requiring an extension next year), extend now, or trade & accept the massive cap hit. Basically the 3 options.

Finally somebod actually understands something. This is the right answer. People in here talking about no trade clauses , Lolol. That has nothing to do w the dead cap hit Dallas would absorb.

 

[John813]

The only way the Cowboys could trade Dak is to do it next offseason.

90 million in unpaid guarantees right now. It really is 100% impossible this offseason. Even next offseason it would require insane dead cap hit.

There's 31mil in unpaid guarantees, which is all salary this upcoming year.
The remaining ~58mil in prorated signing bonuses has been paid out up front at the contract signing and each restructure. That sticks with this team no matter what they do with Dak via trade pre/post June, cut etc...

Even when his contract expires at the end of the 2024 season we'll have 21mil dead cap space in 2025 due to the restructuring and the dead cap from 25/26 accelerate to 2025 due to it being the first void year.

 

[stinkface]

I bet ya, Carolina, Houston or the NY Jets would give up 2 first rounders for DAK....They want franchise QB in the worst way....and be willing to pay...DAK might even get a pay raise, Then sign Carr or Jimmy G as short term solutions

Two things would hold back the deal IMO....
1. No Trade Clause in DAKs contract
2. The 2023 Dead Cap would increase to something like 39mil for the Cowboys (not sure tho)

Jets with their D would have made the playoffs with Dak. Major media market there. Lots and lots of bling. They could make it happen. They have been in QB hell. He would be a huge upgrade for them.

Use Jets number one pick for a QB and bring Jimmy G in to replace Dak next year. Make a splash Jerry, you don't have many years left.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

You often hear trades where one team wants the other team to absorb some of the contract if the player has a high cap number.

Why can't we do that for Dak? Find a trade partner (somehow), and WE absorb the majority of his contract and make the deal!! That way we're not stuck with all of it, we get a small tiny break. They get their guy, I hope he's well rested from sleeping on his BED (commercial!)

There's a little thing called a "No trade clause" in his contract... Something people seem to forget... Please know, I would love to see him gone as well...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

You often hear trades where one team wants the other team to absorb some of the contract if the player has a high cap number.

Why can't we do that for Dak? Find a trade partner (somehow), and WE absorb the majority of his contract and make the deal!! That way we're not stuck with all of it, we get a small tiny break. They get their guy, I hope he's well rested from sleeping on his BED (commercial!)

You know Dak has a no-trade clause in his contract.......right?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There's a little thing called a "No trade clause" in his contract... Something people seem to forget... Please know, I would love to see him gone as well...

This^^^^^ 100%

 

[G2]

Because life's not a fairytale.

 

[DStar22]

way to structure a contract Jerry, because after a few seasons of half-decent play you "KNOW" he is the next superstar!

good JOB GM!!

 

[Acceptablename]

You often hear trades where one team wants the other team to absorb some of the contract if the player has a high cap number.

Why can't we do that for Dak? Find a trade partner (somehow), and WE absorb the majority of his contract and make the deal!! That way we're not stuck with all of it, we get a small tiny break. They get their guy, I hope he's well rested from sleeping on his BED (commercial!)

I don’t know. It’s a reasonable question I think we could get two first for DAK. I think dak And the Dallas Cowboys need a fresh start.

 

[DandyDon52]

Well let's give him half of the yacht to go sheesh just go!!!

how about the whole yacht ??
I would bench him to be the bkup to rush or another qb, that was why they drafted him to begin with, to be a bkup.
This would embarrass him and the only way he could play and start is go to another team.

either way they have to pay dak, so you can pay dak and lose in playoffs, or pay dak and win in playoffs with another qb.
I would try to get brady, garopolo,rodgers, anyone to make a run in 2023 while this team is still loaded.

It wont happen though jerry will keep his guys and make a few changes, and here we go again.

 

[DallasEast]

We equal you, I and/or others. Why do many a number of conversations include 'we' and never take into consideration the most important 'other' named Jerry Jones?

Jones has demonstrated multiple times, with Troy Aikman and Tony Romo, 100% support in his incumbent franchise quarterback. Jones did not waver in his support of Romo until he had Dak Prescott on his roster and was engulfed, like many others, in the euphoria of Prescott's historic rookie regular season. By late October of 2016, Jones' loyalty switched solidly in favor of Prescott from Romo.

At that point, Jones decided he had secured his newest franchise quarterback. At that point, it was predetermined Jones would eventually sign Prescott to a franchise quarterback-caliber contract. Jones tried and failed to outwit Prescott in contract negotiations but eventually Jones agreed upon a trade prohibitive contract with Prescott to both retain his franchise quarterback long-term and command other teams compensate him with premium draft capital IF: a) a team proposed a trade and b) Prescott would agree to the trade. In his mind, Jones would greatly increase his odds of securing another franchise quarterback in the event both a and b occurred.

Everyone has opinions. Why do 'we' talking points about player acquisitions so commonly and intentionally exclude the most important and integral person who would make player acquisitions become reality from the discussion?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Nope he has a no trade clause in his contract

He has a bacon clause low sodium for COOG!!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Who gives a dang about a no trade clause when there's refs blowing games with stupid calls lol jk!!

 

[McKDaddy]

Some of you want to move on from Dak, then worry about finding a QB. Lol Philly didn’t move on from Carson Wentz until they had Jalen Hurts who showed promise. You don’t move on from your starting QB without having a solid replacement.

You aren't getting over the mountain with this guy. Why not play someone else? They probably won't either but you don't know that. You could catch lightning in a bottle. One thing is for sure, dumping a starting QB sends a message to the rest of the team. You can't deny that the team has to know they have no shot with #4. Just like Amari knew. Anyone that at least gives them hope will prevent them mailing it in.

 

[Sydla]

You often hear trades where one team wants the other team to absorb some of the contract if the player has a high cap number.

Why can't we do that for Dak? Find a trade partner (somehow), and WE absorb the majority of his contract and make the deal!! That way we're not stuck with all of it, we get a small tiny break. They get their guy, I hope he's well rested from sleeping on his BED (commercial!)

A team can't absorb a cap hit. They can only take on what the player is owed in salary, and future bonuses. In other words, Dallas can't transfer some of their past cap responsibilities (bonuses already paid, restructures, etc) to another team.

A team acquiring Dak takes on all future cash payments to Dak (any bonuses yet to be paid, base salary, etc) and must account for them on the cap. The only real manipulation you can play here is what Aerolith stated - the Cowboys could basically agree to pay some of Dak's future cash payments (again any roster bonuses to be paid, base salaries in the future, etc.) but Dallas would have to add that cash payment and carry it on their cap, which kind of defeats the purpose of moving on from Dak.

 

[J_Allen]

First of all he would have to agree to a trade because he has a no trade clause and If you do that who’s our QB? Don’t tell me Cooper Rush because we have no shot with him. Had he continued to be the starter we wouldn’t made the playoffs. We won four games with him because of our defense and pass rush. Once our defense fell off, we would’ve been stuck because we had no passing game with him. We can’t move on from Dak until we find someone better or we’ll be sitting home for the playoffs every season. Glad fans like you don’t run the team.

Personally I'd rather sit home than get one playoff win. We get better draft picks that way. And one of those could be a quarterback.

 

[Stash]

You often hear trades where one team wants the other team to absorb some of the contract if the player has a high cap number.

Why can't we do that for Dak? Find a trade partner (somehow), and WE absorb the majority of his contract and make the deal!! That way we're not stuck with all of it, we get a small tiny break. They get their guy, I hope he's well rested from sleeping on his BED (commercial!)

 

[JustChip]

You don’t want to be using a premium draft pick unless you really like a QB. The Packers wasted a first round pick on Jordan Love. Philly took the step because Hurts fell in the draft, and Philly saw an opportunity to use him in certain situations, ala Taysom Hill. They wanted a Swiss Army knife at QB. Who knows if the Cowboys see a QB fall in the draft they might take a chance in the second round. Drafting a QB is a real crapshoot and you can waste a draft pick if you’re not smart about it. I’m sure the 49ers wish they could have the draft picks back they burned to move up for Trey Lance. It’s looking like a real big mistake.

I’m not advocating using a premium draft pick on a QB just to say you’ve drafted a QB. It has to be somebody your scouts and coaches see as a significant prospect. I’m simply saying you won’t ever have a viable succession plan at the position if you never draft one.

Sure, in hindsight drafting Love was a mistake. But the decisions are made in realtime, not hindsight. Drafting Aaron Rodgers while still having Brett Favre playing at a very high level was a brilliant move. However, there were no guarantees it would turn out so well when the decision was made.

And that is true of every draft choice regardless of position. It’s one of the reasons I’m a huge proponent of drafting best player available. The Cowboys didn’t need a center with Fredbeard, until suddenly they did.

Just like the Packers, the 49ers had a plan in drafting Lance. It hasn’t worked out, at least not yet. Purdy looks like the real deal right now, but as Parcells was want to say, let’s pump the breaks on the HoF for him. He may look completely different next year.

 

[JustChip]

Personally I'd rather sit home than get one playoff win. We get better draft picks that way. And one of those could be a quarterback.

And one of those could be Ryan Leaf. Or RG3. Or Duane Haskins. Or JaMarcus Russell.

You play to have a chance at the playoffs because the only way to win a Super Bowl is to be in the playoffs. You don’t play to have a high draft pick.

 

[stinkface]

I know one thing. If we absorbed the cap hit by cutting Dak (Stupid I know), some other team would give him a pile of money. He is still a top 15 QB and they get paid a crap load of money.