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and what makes you think Dak would have ever agreed to be traded to some bottom dweller vs playing for a very talented roster like Dallas has and then choosing where he wants to go?
I don’t . Unless of course we threatened to bench him.

You always want owners to play hard ball. Why not threaten to bench a player if he won’t agree to a trade?
 

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If we do sign Dak, the 2025 1st round pick MUST be a QB. M-U-S-T. Otherwise we'll be right back here in about 2-3 years...with no SB, more "almost-MVP" trophies and a rising cap hit for a choker.
so wait... sign the qb to a 4 and possibly 5 year deal, and then draft a qb in the first rd in the following draft? So then that draft pick sits on the bench for 4 years and never plays and then are you supposed to exercise that 5th year option? then sign that guy long term with having never started? bahahahhahahahahahahah, could you imagine this board if that scenario happened?
 

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so wait... sign the qb to a 4 and possibly 5 year deal, and then draft a qb in the first rd in the following draft? So then that draft pick sits on the bench for 4 years and never plays and then are you supposed to exercise that 5th year option? then sign that guy long term with having never started? bahahahhahahahahahahah, could you imagine this board if that scenario happened?
Atlanta did it why can't we lol
 

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1. Path of least resistance… both sides want the status quo, and the easiest decision for JJ to make is to extend and cross his fingers that Dak will come thru this time

2. No alternative at QB… if there was a viable option to take the torch from Dak on the roster, maybe this decision gets harder. The fact is JJ and the FO have failed to develop anyone in the wings to take the wheel, so extending Dak is inevitable IMO

3. Scape-goat factor… JJ loves his image. Paying Dak makes him look like the good guy and the pressure to deliver shifts over to Dak to make it happen. If Dallas fails to win a SB with Dak, Prescott goes down as a (highly paid) failure.

4. Morale boost…. Signing Dak creates a boost to team morale and establishes some positive press. JJ loves to make a splash and steal headlines. Extension incoming IMO

For the record, I don’t think the chances of Dak winning a SB are very good. Put it at 25%. That said, he is our best shot considering where we are roster wise.

I am preparing for another 4 years of futility and will hope against hope things will break our way.
Beautifully said......and accurate
 

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so wait... sign the qb to a 4 and possibly 5 year deal, and then draft a qb in the first rd in the following draft? So then that draft pick sits on the bench for 4 years and never plays and then are you supposed to exercise that 5th year option? then sign that guy long term with having never started? bahahahhahahahahahahah, could you imagine this board if that scenario happened?
And what are the odds he sat there all that time and then all of a sudden he's good he's great he's the next guy I mean that is very rare that does not happen very often,,, why do you think Jacoby Brissette and Jimmy Garoppolo got traded because they were drafted to be the next guy after Tom Brady but Tom Brady just end up playing longer and they ended up having to get rid of those guys who turned out to be OK but not generational...
 

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so wait... sign the qb to a 4 and possibly 5 year deal, and then draft a qb in the first rd in the following draft? So then that draft pick sits on the bench for 4 years and never plays and then are you supposed to exercise that 5th year option? then sign that guy long term with having never started? bahahahhahahahahahahah, could you imagine this board if that scenario happened?
For the sake of argument it would create options moving forward especially if Dak continued to disappoint in the playoffs.

And either Dak or an attractive up and coming #1 on the bench could deliver draft capital.

They wouldn’t necessarily have to sit 4 or 5 years. And what happens if Dak gets hurt again. More options . It’s not as crazy as some might think.

And that high draft pick for QB doesn’t have to be this year. But we could argue waiting until we don’t have a Franchise QB isn’t an ideal situation either.
 

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If they resign him they damn well better remove the trade restrictions element
 

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Atlanta did it why can't we lol
when did Atlanta draft? what kind of deal does Cousins have? Can the Falcons get out of it with no serious cap ramifications? You think Dak is signing a deal like that? Atlanta has gotten roasted for doing what they did. If the kid they drafted ends up being a top 5 qb within 3 years, they will be genius. If not, the GM will be fired.
 

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And what are the odds he sat there all that time and then all of a sudden he's good he's great he's the next guy I mean that is very rare that does not happen very often,,, why do you think Jacoby Brissette and Jimmy Garoppolo got traded because they were drafted to be the next guy after Tom Brady but Tom Brady just end up playing longer and they ended up having to get rid of those guys who turned out to be OK but not generational...
cmon man... its not hard if you try. The Niners had Steve Young on the bench, the Packers have done it 2 times...... its easy, jerry just isnt smart enough to do like other teams that have a real front office...... smh.

End of sarcastic rant.
 

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For the sake of argument it would create options moving forward especially if Dak continued to disappoint in the playoffs.

And either Dak or an attractive up and coming #1 on the bench could deliver draft capital.

They wouldn’t necessarily have to sit 4 or 5 years. And what happens if Dak gets hurt again. More options . It’s not as crazy as some might think.

And that high draft pick for QB doesn’t have to be this year. But we could argue waiting until we don’t have a Franchise QB isn’t an ideal situation either.
well with Dak, would you admit, for arguments sake, we are likely winning 10 games and drafting somewhere after 20. Do you think you are landing that "Attractive," sure thing qb prospect that late in the draft? The fact you would get the guy that late menas, by definition, he is no sure thing.

There is a reason teams dont just use a 1st rd pick on a qb when you have your started locked up for the next several years.
 

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when did Atlanta draft? what kind of deal does Cousins have? Can the Falcons get out of it with no serious cap ramifications? You think Dak is signing a deal like that? Atlanta has gotten roasted for doing what they did. If the kid they drafted ends up being a top 5 qb within 3 years, they will be genius. If not, the GM will be fired.
they drafted the kid from washington
 

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when did Atlanta draft? what kind of deal does Cousins have? Can the Falcons get out of it with no serious cap ramifications? You think Dak is signing a deal like that? Atlanta has gotten roasted for doing what they did. If the kid they drafted ends up being a top 5 qb within 3 years, they will be genius. If not, the GM will be fired.
If Falcons suk he’d get fired anyway.

Doubling down on QB especially with an aging and injury riddled Cousins appears to be smarter than most want to admit.

The GM brought in a QB which can help them win now and drafted some insurance in the event he doesn’t while potentially providing more hope for the future if he has one .
 

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cmon man... its not hard if you try. The Niners had Steve Young on the bench, the Packers have done it 2 times...... its easy, jerry just isnt smart enough to do like other teams that have a real front office...... smh.

End of sarcastic rant.
Well this is true very few teams have done that over the last couple of decades if not 50 years it is very difficult to find the next guy... Some people look into it cause San Francisco may be doing well but they're one of the luckiest teams on the planet to have done what they did and get away with trading up to get a trade Lance with three first round picks have him be a total bust but somehow trip into a seventh round quarterback that turned out to be good?

Same thing with Tom Brady I mean what is the New England Patriots done before and after Tom Brady they're drafting like crazy is what they're doing and they can't find his replacement and they weren't good before him and they haven't been good after so far....so 2020 that 4 years now and still no great prosects yet to replace TB12 but they are trying ,

I mean we've all seen what The Jets and the Browns and the Broncos and many other teams have done when they constantly looking for the next guy that could be decades..

I'm not saying we should sign Prescott and I'm not saying that Jerry should give him everything he's asking for but people thinking it's gonna be some easy transition and they act like this is coming out of their own pocketbook, it's just confusing to me that people can be so delusional to think that that's just an easy prospect to do is find the next guy up at quarterback I mean it's the same fan base that thinks we should have 3 deep depth at every position and that we're the only team that would struggle if we lost a starter at any position that we're supposed to just have these like ridiculous amounts of depth with a roster limit and a salary cap...

But like I said I would understand if Jerry kept him I would understand if Jerry let him walk but I just don't understand why the fan base thinks this would be that easy... It would be nice if we lucked into something and that happened but we're gonna need to start over like I said in my other rant you're not gonna be able to afford a guy like Baker Mayfield and that is a one off you can get every once in awhile and bringing in a guy like Flacco or somebody like Nick Foles but for the most part with the dead cap money that we have on the books for Prescott when he's not here the next two years you can't even really afford a guy like that and it even makes sense you either keep Prescott or you gotta go get a rookie and just start this all over and that mean trading some of these big names we have on this team including lamb diggs and Parsons..

that's what truly starting over means here it means that for most teams.. We have to clear the books and start over find a quarterback and then filling them around him...

Unless you have the dumbest greatest luck in the world which can happen but that's what they're banking this on they're tired of losing in the playoffs....:facepalm::popcorn:.
 

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well with Dak, would you admit, for arguments sake, we are likely winning 10 games and drafting somewhere after 20. Do you think you are landing that "Attractive," sure thing qb prospect that late in the draft? The fact you would get the guy that late menas, by definition, he is no sure thing.

There is a reason teams dont just use a 1st rd pick on a qb when you have your started locked up for the next several years.
Rodgers was a 24th round pick I believe . Love was later as well.

You dont have to reach for a QB in the draft when you’re not desperate .

And yes, no sure things anywhere in 1st round.
 

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If they resign him they damn well better remove the trade restrictions element
you know he's not going to do that,,, you can't put conditions on it you either keep Prescott or you start completely over and blow this team up you're not getting the middle of the road Baker type because you're not gonna be able to afford it with a cap hit we're going to have on the books..

it's called dead cap money from Prescott over the next two years, you're going to need to go really bad and really young and trade all your draft capital and try to get up into the top five next three years and hope something hits if not we could be a decade or more being bad like other teams who can't find quarterbacks go out and get who a guy like Prescott...

they literally done that with The Jets the Broncos the Browns and there's others they sign these guys like Kirk cousins 'cause they can't find a guy in the draft and middle of the road guys are not going to get it done either, you either have to go all in with Prescott a guy like Prescott or you just got to roll the dice and blow it all up and that means trading all your good players and just trying to get another quarterback of the future and then guess what after he's here for about 5 years does he ever get to the NFC championship game is that a guarantee is he going to get to the Super bowl is that a guarantee and then all of a sudden he's up for a new deal and we're right back in this vicious circle...
 

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Well this is true very few teams have done that over the last couple of decades if not 50 years it is very difficult to find the next guy... Some people look into it cause San Francisco may be doing well but they're one of the luckiest teams on the planet to have done what they did and get away with trading up to get a trade Lance with three first round picks have him be a total bust but somehow trip into a seventh round quarterback that turned out to be good?

Same thing with Tom Brady I mean what is the New England Patriots done before and after Tom Brady they're drafting like crazy is what they're doing and they can't find his replacement and they weren't good before him and they haven't been good after so far....so 2020 that 4 years now and still no great prosects yet to replace TB12 but they are trying ,

I mean we've all seen what The Jets and the Browns and the Broncos and many other teams have done when they constantly looking for the next guy that could be decades..

I'm not saying we should sign Prescott and I'm not saying that Jerry should give him everything he's asking for but people thinking it's gonna be some easy transition and they act like this is coming out of their own pocketbook, it's just confusing to me that people can be so delusional to think that that's just an easy prospect to do is find the next guy up at quarterback I mean it's the same fan base that thinks we should have 3 deep depth at every position and that we're the only team that would struggle if we lost a starter at any position that we're supposed to just have these like ridiculous amounts of depth with a roster limit and a salary cap...

But like I said I would understand if Jerry kept him I would understand if Jerry let him walk but I just don't understand why the fan base thinks this would be that easy... It would be nice if we lucked into something and that happened but we're gonna need to start over like I said in my other rant you're not gonna be able to afford a guy like Baker Mayfield and that is a one off you can get every once in awhile and bringing in a guy like Flacco or somebody like Nick Foles but for the most part with the dead cap money that we have on the books for Prescott when he's not here the next two years you can't even really afford a guy like that and it even makes sense you either keep Prescott or you gotta go get a rookie and just start this all over and that mean trading some of these big names we have on this team including lamb diggs and Parsons..

that's what truly starting over means here it means that for most teams.. We have to clear the books and start over find a quarterback and then filling them around him...

Unless you have the dumbest greatest luck in the world which can happen but that's what they're banking this on they're tired of losing in the playoffs....:facepalm::popcorn:.
Patriots with Brady are a great example . They still drafted Jimmy G which eventually delivered draft capital.
 
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