Why did Cleveland release Weeden?

[Doomsday101]

I'm glad Cleveland did let him go. Thus far he has done a good job in Dallas

 

[Vanilla2]

He's not going to learn the NFL game better by staying in school. There was a decent shot he could have been a top-5 pick this year and I don't think staying an extra year would have helped (i.e. Matt Leinart or Matt Barkley).

The best he could have done by staying in school is to put on some extra muscle to his frame and refine some mechanics. But, harder to do that when you have school as part of your life versus being a pro football player where you have all day to focus on getting better.

I think the Browns would be stupid to start him. They have so much more to gain by having him ride the bench this year.



YR

He went exactly where he should've in the draft.

His talent has been overblown and he's performing exactly as expected at this point.

He still should've stayed in school.

 

[jterrell]

Good point but technically, Roger was not drafted at 28, he was drafted at age 22/23 or so. He joined the team when he was 27 I believe and he was a 10th round pick.

I believe his point is age is irrelevant if the talent is there.
Roger was easily worth a low 1st orund pick at 28.

I believe CLE thought they had a bell cow RB and a great OL as part of a young ascending team.
They thought Weeden's strong arm and overall fit was good in that particular offense right away and they were pretty desperate for a QB.

In Holmgren's defense he was the best QB they had... he just wasn't good enough to merit the selection or a long term starting job.

Whatever the case I am very glad Dallas has him at the cost we paid because he is not a quality starter but looks like a decent back up and costs us the right amount.
He cna lose game 17 as quick as Orton did at about 1/4 the cost.

 

[jterrell]

He went exactly where he should've in the draft.

His talent has been overblown and he's performing exactly as expected at this point.

He still should've stayed in school.

He would have been crazy to stay in school.
His age was already factored against him and the OSU scheme meant little towards NFL development.
He was very unlikely to gain value and he would have definitely lost a year of 1st round money.

 

[CCBoy]

jterrell, I appreciate more of your posts as the numbers of them increases.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This. Even if he played better for them, I don't know if drafting a 28 year old QB in the 1st round was a good investment.

I think they would've been okay with it had they done better with their earlier pick which I believe was a 3rd overall pick. Instead, they wasted it on Trent Richardson who's just as big of a bust.

 

[DFWJC]

In other news.
You all will be shocked to hear that the Colts cut Phillip Tanner.

 

[Jenky]

I watched that entire game Monday wondering how much the Browns wished they had a do-over on letting Weeden go.

Brandon Weeden is better than any quarterback that played in that game for both teams.

Lol, no he's not.

I can tell you right now, I'd rather have Kirk Cousins as my backup.

Weeden is just not good.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Not to say that the Browns will not elect to redshirt him, because they might. Now, having acknowledged that, when's the last time you can remember the Browns doing something smart?

They have had some awfully bad luck over the years. Then you start to panic because the fans are tired of losing and start making bad decisions.

For example, the Browns had lousy O-Lines for years and a lot of it was due to injuries (LeCharles Bentley gets a big contract and essentially ends his career getting injured in his 1st practice as a Brown). Then the Browns started to do everything they can to beef up the O-Line, but didn't have the playmakers or the QB for it. They drafted Tim Couch were everybody thought he was projected to go. The same with Brady Quinn. Neither worked out.

Although I think letting Chudzinski go (and yes, I'm biased) was an idiotic move.






YR

 

[Risen Star]

Why did Cleveland release him? I watched the Cleveland vs Washington game and those two Cleveland QB's stunk.......

Because Weeden sucks.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Lol, no he's not.

I can tell you right now, I'd rather have Kirk Cousins as my backup.

Weeden is just not good.

I'd rather have Hoyer.

He had 1 bad game. He took over the starting position for Weeden last year because...he was better than Weeden. He was actually leading the offense until he got injured.

I'm not sure what anybody sees in Cousins. He's more refined than RG3, but that's not saying a lot. He has a very average arm, average size, lacks mobility in the pocket, etc.

I know the ESPN guys were drooling over him at the draft...but they were the same guys drooling over Mark Sanchez at the draft. And I remember Jaws boasting about an Eastern Washington QB from a few years ago that I believe has never played a down in the league.




YR

 

[Risen Star]

I'd rather have Hoyer.

He had 1 bad game. He took over the starting position for Weeden last year because...he was better than Weeden. He was actually leading the offense until he got injured.

I'm not sure what anybody sees in Cousins. He's more refined than RG3, but that's not saying a lot. He has a very average arm, average size, lacks mobility in the pocket, etc.

I know the ESPN guys were drooling over him at the draft...but they were the same guys drooling over Mark Sanchez at the draft. And I remember Jaws boasting about an Eastern Washington QB from a few years ago that I believe has never played a down in the league.






YR

Weeden wasn't just bad in Cleveland. He was inept.

Now if the Cowboys can salvage him, kudos to them but the Browns were justified in releasing him. He was the worst QB on a roster of bad QBs.




RS

 

[erod]

Weeden wasn't just bad in Cleveland. He was inept.

Now if the Cowboys can salvage him, kudos to them but the Browns were justified in releasing him. He was the worst QB on a roster of bad QBs.




RS

Not always. He was really good at Cowboys Stadium a couple of years ago.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Big difference is the Cowboys are trying to turn Weeden into a serviceable backup QB, and the Browns wanted him to be the face of the franchise. The Cowboys have a much better chance at getting what they want from him.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Not always. He was really good at Cowboys Stadium a couple of years ago.

Our defense has made a lot of bad QBs look good. Matt Flynn for example.

 

[Jenky]

I'd rather have Hoyer.

He had 1 bad game. He took over the starting position for Weeden last year because...he was better than Weeden. He was actually leading the offense until he got injured.

I'm not sure what anybody sees in Cousins. He's more refined than RG3, but that's not saying a lot. He has a very average arm, average size, lacks mobility in the pocket, etc.

I know the ESPN guys were drooling over him at the draft...but they were the same guys drooling over Mark Sanchez at the draft. And I remember Jaws boasting about an Eastern Washington QB from a few years ago that I believe has never played a down in the league.




YR

Hoyer pre-injury, yes. I don't know if he'll be the same or if it's just rust.

But If I had the choice, I would not take Weeden over RG3 (obviously), Cousins, or Hoyer.

 

[erod]

Hoyer pre-injury, yes. I don't know if he'll be the same or if it's just rust.

But If I had the choice, I would not take Weeden over RG3 (obviously), Cousins, or Hoyer.

I would.

RG3 is just a half a tick above Manziel. Both are headed for fast flame outs.

 

[Longboysfan]

Roger Staubach was a 10th round draft pick. That's a very low risk.

Weeden was round 1, pick 22.

Age. He had 4 year commitment to US Navy.

 

[xwalker]

Age. He had 4 year commitment to US Navy.

I know that. But there was basically no risk or cost to take him in the 10th round. Taking Weeden in the 1st round was a huge outlay of draft resources. I would have been different if he was a ready-now player when they took him, but very few people believed that he would just jump in right away without some development time.

 

[KJJ]

There's several reasons why Cleveland released Weeden he performed the worst of any of the QB's the Browns used last season check the stats. His rookie season wasn't great and he regressed last season. He lost his last 7 starts dating back to 2012 and he had only 9 TD's compared to 11 turnovers last season. The new regime obviously saw no future in him and he's going to be 31 in Oct. When Weeden was released no one wanted him as a starter which is why he settled for the backup job with the Cowboys.

The Browns aren't high on Hoyer which is why they drafted Manziel in the first round but he was the Browns best QB last season and they're using him as a stopgap until Manziel is ready to take over. Cleveland has been a graveyard for QB's. The Browns have gone through something like 20 starting QB's since 99 and haven't had a solid QB since Bernie Kosar. Manziel has shown potential in preseason but he's having to make a tough transition from college QB to NFL QB and will have a difficult time panning out in Cleveland.