Why did it take Moore leaving for Dak to get "control" of the offense?

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TheCritic said:
It may in fact be training camp talk, but don't overlook the fact that Dak wasn't really a good fit for the kind of QB Kellen Moore needs to run his style of offense. Justin Herbert is going to be a better fit. And likewise, Mike McCarthy will be a better fit for Dak.
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Of course Herbert will be a better fit.

He actually has talent.
 
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I hope it's true ..... It would be great if Moore was somehow the problem.

Need to see what they do in the regular season before we know for sure.

And the addition of Cooks is I think gonna be a huge factor.

Haven't had a guy that fast with that size in a long time
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
A interesting list. What the hell makes Schottenheimer 10th and why would a 2 time SB champion Bienemy not be higher lol? Bill O'Brien is a joke lol. The whole top 10 is a joke lol.
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Actually, what makes the list interesting is the fact that they've allowed it to have any coordinators that are with their teams for the first year without any games played..

I don't think any of those guys should be on that list that are first year offensive coordinators for that team. You do realize that Bienemy was not the offensive coordinator in Kansas City him being ranked at all it's surprising because we have no idea how he's going to go in there with Washington and that should include schottenheimer and anyone else that are with new teams this year Kellen Moore should not be that high on the list because they have zero idea how they're going to gel over there.

So, these lists are just guessing, hypotheticals, just wild shots in the dark on what they think might happen... so why is it that's shocking that someone's opinion may seem misalign from your own because it's an opinion that's why none of that is based in facts or proof.
 
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zrinkill said:
I hope it's true ..... It would be great if Moore was somehow the problem.

Need to see what they do in the regular season before we know for sure.

And the addition of Cooks is I think gonna be a huge factor.

Haven't had a guy that fast with that size in a long time
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Yeah and honestly I don' think Moore was the problem. I really do expect him to do well with the Chargers. At least stats wise. I don't know what their ceiling is but I expect him to have success with Herbert. I think for this team thought we needed to move on. Now I don't know about McCarthy being the one to move on to or Shottenheimer but listening to them it at least makes sense.
 
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...well, KM catered to the name of Wonder Boy. I think everyone on offense, subjected themselves to that prospect.
 
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blueblood70 said:
Actually, what makes the list interesting is the fact that they've allowed it to have any coordinators that are with their teams for the first year without any games played..

I don't think any of those guys should be on that list that are first year offensive coordinators for that team. You do realize that Bienemy was not the offensive coordinator in Kansas City him being ranked at all it's surprising because we have no idea how he's going to go in there with Washington and that should include schottenheimer and anyone else that are with new teams this year Kellen Moore should not be that high on the list because they have zero idea how they're going to gel over there.

So, these lists are just guessing, hypotheticals, just wild shots in the dark on what they think might happen... so why is it that's shocking that someone's opinion may seem misalign from your own because it's an opinion that's why none of that is based in facts or proof.
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I'm well aware of what Eric B does for the Chiefs. I know it's Andy Reid and his offense. But that's sort of my point. The list is out of whack. Why is Eric B #6 if he never called plays? Hell why is Shottenheimer #10 when he's not going to call our plays? The list makes no sense and it's just being posted to hype up Moore which great he's #2 but the list doesn't make sense.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
Of course Herbert will be a better fit.

He actually has talent.
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Arm talent, at least. And I've heard that Herbert has a high IQ. More of a cerebral QB. But Dak is just a different style. So far in camp, most of his throws are right on the money. Still throws the occasional INT. I get it. Bottom line is that see the Kellen-Dak split as a win-win for both sides.
 

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TheMarathonContinues said:
Yeah and honestly I don' think Moore was the problem. I really do expect him to do well with the Chargers. At least stats wise. I don't know what their ceiling is but I expect him to have success with Herbert. I think for this team thought we needed to move on. Now I don't know about McCarthy being the one to move on to or Shottenheimer but listening to them it at least makes sense.
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Moore was forced onto MM. that's why MM didn't manage offense, but didn't mean he liked it. that's the coach and OC not being on same page and have different philosophies, which leads to confusion to the offense and the team. Moore was also forced on Garret, as in you either make him OC or else. and it was told even by Jerry that Moore reports to Jerry and not the HC. the dysfunctional team that's the cowboys.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
A sucker is born every single day.

Jerry has been fooling em for 30 years going now. They fall for the con over and over again thinking it’s going to be different this time.
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You do realize that you are posting on a Cowboys forum "pretending" to be a Cowboys fan...EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Scratch that... You are here every single day of every single year. You post on a Cowboys forum 365 days out of the calendar year. You do realize that when you talk about people being conned. You are the person being conned the absolute most. Even though you hate this team, Jerry Jones team lives rent free in your head 365 days in the year. Damn bro. I even feel bad for you now.
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
I've been reading reports on camp and the receivers seem to be impressing from Tuprin, Tolbert, Moreno-Cropper....I've heard conflicting stuff on Simi heard he's looked better as well.

Then there's talk of Dak taking control of the offense.

Why did it take Kellen Moore to leave for some of these things to happen?
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Because they had to wait till Moore left before they could dumb down the offense?

Jerry OWN WORDS have been that they have lessened pre-snap decisions, post snap decisions, and more short dump off plays to make the offense easier for Rayne to succeed in

before you hammer your humble messenger, remember that this is straight from Jerry’s own mouf.
 
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