Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

[sacase]

Please stop manking a fool out of me.


You're right. You gave up a total of 130 yards that game, but they weren't all to Barber. Still not an impressive number


Actually, they scored 3 and could have scored 4 but they chose to kick a FG in OT. Granted one was scored by their defense, but I know you're a stickler for accuracy. Broncos win.


Giants score 2 TDs. Giants rush for 130 yards. Giants Win.


Only FOUR teams have beat the Chiefs all year. No team has scored as many points against us as the 49ers scored against the Cowboys. I'd rather be 8-4.


None of those teams are in the top 3. Only one of those teams are in the top 8. You still only won 2 out of three and lost your only road game.


It doesn't matter how bad you lose. A loss is a loss. You've got more than us.


I've already addressed the part about the NFC teams. SD was not shut down. They scored 24 points.


I specifically said that I didn't want to talk about injuries and that our injuries weren't an excuse. We lost those games just like you lost yours.


Yes the 2-time defending Superbowl champs who lead their division and have a better record than the Cowboys (excluding the game against the Chiefs) are a bad team. The only team in that stretch that isn't leading their division is the Texans. They suck and we beat them 45-17. It's not as if we eked out a win.


If by shutting people down you mean making excuses for losing, you certainly have been shutting people down. If by not being able to compete you mean that I destroyed every single point you tried to make, I guess I can't compete.

Once again you make a fool out of yourself. Philly put up 37 against you. SF only hung 31 on us, but we won that one.

How about some reading comprehension here. When we played them, they were the top scoring teams in the NFL. PLease go to NFL.com and tell me who are the top 5 scoring offenses.

Dude you have a SOFT schedule. You have only played 3 games against winning teams and your record in those games is 2-1. 9 of your wins have been against teams under .500, and you have played Denver twice. 2 teams with winning records.......

In the Dever game I wish they would have tried to score a TD on us, chances are they wouldn't. but they increase their chance for a turnover and/or penatlies.

Once again reading comprehension, the denfense in each of those games had turnovers for TD's. Teams don't put up alot of offensive points or yards against us plain and simple. Where as your D gets scored on like a brothel.

You right, a loss is a loss. But we know our defense gave our offense the chance to win every game. After how bad our team has been the past 10 years I am happy at the progress.

The Defending NFC champs are in a division where every team but them is under .500 They have been decimated by injuries this year. They are a shadow of their former self.

Fact is we beat ourselves, teams don't beat us.

Oh and since you like to bring up your past accomplishments. Didn't you guys go 9-0 and still fail to get in the playoffs two years ago or something like that?

PS I really feel sorry for you guys if ***NOT-ALLOWED*** is all you got for a message boards. pathetic, and you guys don't even dicuss football on there hardly.

 

[sacase]

Who cares about where they ranked at the time? That early in the season, stats get skewed due to insufficient data. If you were a Jets fan you'd probably argue that you shut down a Miami team that was averaging 34 PPG when you played them in week 2. I know you'd like to skew the facts to your advantage. I prefer to use the larger and thus more accurate sample when using stats to prove my point.

http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/sponsorships.nfl.com/fs/stats;arena=nfl;feat=stats;type=psa;user=Anonymous;cust=no;vip=no;sz=150x30;tile=5;ord=296631134202829?
2005 Regular Season NFL · AFC · NFC Team Sortables -

Offense Passing Rushing Receiving Scoring Punting Kickoffs Returns Field Goals Total Offense Turnovers

Scoring Offense - Points/Game Touchdown
TypeKickingOther
TeamGPts/G TDs Run Rec PRKRIntFumBPntBFGPATFGSFTY2-PT
Indianapolis 12 30.5 46 17 25 002200451500
San Diego12 29.8 44 19 23 002000421700
Seattle12 28.2 42 24 15 002100411500
Cincinnati12 27.2 38 11 26 001000372001
New York (N)12 26.6 35 12 20 110100332402
http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-SCORING/2005/regular?sort_col_1=3

Accurate stats.....Kiss the ring......

 

[Chief3188]

Once again you make a fool out of yourself. Philly put up 37 against you. SF only hung 31 on us, but we won that one.

How about some reading comprehension here. When we played them, they were the top scoring teams in the NFL. PLease go to NFL.com and tell me who are the top 5 scoring offenses.

Dude you have a SOFT schedule. You have only played 3 games against winning teams and your record in those games is 2-1. 9 of your wins have been against teams under .500, and you have played Denver twice. 2 teams with winning records.......

In the Dever game I wish they would have tried to score a TD on us, chances are they wouldn't. but they increase their chance for a turnover and/or penatlies.

Once again reading comprehension, the denfense in each of those games had turnovers for TD's. Teams don't put up alot of offensive points or yards against us plain and simple. Where as your D gets scored on like a brothel.

You right, a loss is a loss. But we know our defense gave our offense the chance to win every game. After how bad our team has been the past 10 years I am happy at the progress.

The Defending NFC champs are in a division where every team but them is under .500 They have been decimated by injuries this year. They are a shadow of their former self.

Fact is we beat ourselves, teams don't beat us.

Oh and since you like to bring up your past accomplishments. Didn't you guys go 9-0 and still fail to get in the playoffs two years ago or something like that?

PS I really feel sorry for you guys if ***NOT-ALLOWED*** is all you got for a message boards. pathetic, and you guys don't even dicuss football on there hardly.

Oh my god kid do you even watch football lol ?? There are too many errors in that statement for me to even begin.

 

[sacase]

Oh my god kid do you even watch football lol ?? There are too many errors in that statement for me to even begin.

Please show me the errors.....I can back them up with links to accurate game stats, can you.

 

[Chief3188]

Once again you make a fool out of yourself. Philly put up 37 against you. SF only hung 31 on us, but we won that one.

^^ Great comparison - Philly scored 6 points on a interception returned for a TD and they got 2 turnovers from us inside our own 10 yard line --- the Defense would have held them scoreless in the first half if not for a fumble inside our own 5 yard line.

How about some reading comprehension here. When we played them, they were the top scoring teams in the NFL. PLease go to NFL.com and tell me who are the top 5 scoring offenses.

^^ Yeah and when we played the Eagles, Commanders etc... they had winning records oh and as a sidenote Miami was still in the top ten in scoring offense lol -- That means nothing

Dude you have a SOFT schedule. You have only played 3 games against winning teams and your record in those games is 2-1. 9 of your wins have been against teams under .500, and you have played Denver twice. 2 teams with winning records.......

^^We have played 4 winning teams and are 2-2 losing at Denver and at SD ( After they started their winning streak and unfortunately not in the 1st week without Gates and completely out of sorts ) - But we also have 4 more winning teams left on our schedule --- You guys have only played 5 winning teams this year and you are 2-3 against them and you only have 2 more winning teams left on your schedule so when its all said and done KC will have played more winning teams so lets not cry about schedule. Also 9 of our wins have been against teams under .500 -- Hello we are 8-4 and have beaten 2 winning teams so how the heck could we have played 9 teams with records of under .500 -- your team has only played one more winning team than we have so lets chill that arguement. I mean seriously kid you are making your fellow Cowboy fans look ridiculous - You should leave this arguement to people who actually pay attention to whats going on outside their own home teams stadium.

In the Dever game I wish they would have tried to score a TD on us, chances are they wouldn't. but they increase their chance for a turnover and/or penatlies.

^^Chances are they would - They had burst your defense open in the running game.

Once again reading comprehension, the denfense in each of those games had turnovers for TD's. Teams don't put up alot of offensive points or yards against us plain and simple. Where as your D gets scored on like a brothel.

You right, a loss is a loss. But we know our defense gave our offense the chance to win every game. After how bad our team has been the past 10 years I am happy at the progress.

^^ The Sad thing is the reason we lost most of our games were due to the offense this year and the health of our Oline missing 3 players for a significant amount of time. In the Eagles loss we gave them a interception returned for a TD, 2 fumbles inside our own 10 yard line and another interception inside our own 50 which resulted in 24 points - In the Buffalo loss our defense did its job and the offense just plain choked with no pass protection ( What your team has been going thru these last few weeks ) and a inability to hold onto the ball due to not having a deep passing threat since there was no time to do any 7 step draw backs or even 5 for that matter. Now that we are healthy I think you would understand our confidence in our team and the way they have been playing.

The Defending NFC champs are in a division where every team but them is under .500 They have been decimated by injuries this year. They are a shadow of their former self.

^^ I think you mean .500 or above

Fact is we beat ourselves, teams don't beat us.

^^ Sure they do - No one can actually beat the Cowboys because only they can beat themselves --- How about not using a arguement that amateur homer analysts use instead of acknowledging thier teams weaknessess.

Oh and since you like to bring up your past accomplishments. Didn't you guys go 9-0 and still fail to get in the playoffs two years ago or something like that?

^^ No actually we had a 1st round bye that year but thanks for playing close attention

PS I really feel sorry for you guys if ***NOT-ALLOWED*** is all you got for a message boards. pathetic, and you guys don't even dicuss football on there hardly.

^^ Yeah that board sucks -- Chiefshuddle.com is where its at

 

[sacase]

Ok first, if we coudl take back the turnovers and missed kicks we would have only lost two games.

Well like your buddy broke back says, the stats are inflated so let's go by what the teams are doing now. I am just playign by his rules. You have only played two teams with winning records.

My bad I meant to say 9 of your games, I am a little fired up here. Oh and you can stop with the kid stuff, I am probally older than you and I actually follow the NFL.

There have been plenty of times our defense has bent and not broken. They have recovered all year minus the washington game from big plays.

If you want to compare our losses 2 ints by bledsoe and two missed fieldgoals suck especially in the last few minutes of the game. could of would of should of don't matter now.

Again got a little fired up I meant the NFL Champs, your buddy talked about how good the patriots are, but their division sucks and they are not playing well at all.

WE did beat ourselves, missed fieldgoals and poor reads. 2 missed field goals and 2 poor passes.

Your right I don't follow the chiefs that much and it was the 2003 season. I just remember there was a big anomoly that year for you guys. But yes yo ulost on jan 11.

Ok I will check out chiefshuddle

 

[AdamJT13]

1. Denver scored 24 points and ran for 141 yards. They could have punched the ball in for a TD and scored 28 points if they felt like it. Incidentally, they won the game.

As I've said several times now, Denver's offense scored only 17 points -- and they needed overtime to score that many.

2. NY ran for 130 yards. They won the game.

Their offense scored a whopping 10 points. Oh, and their offense averages more points per game than the Chiefs do. (And would have outscored the Chiefs by even more if we hadn't shut them down twice.)

3. You all love to "forget" about the most important part of the game. In case you missed it, Ron Dayne (yes, that Ron Dayne) ripped off a huge run against your defense and the Cowboys lost the game.

Nobody's forgetting anything. But you don't seem to understand that stats can be inflated when games go longer than four quarters.

4. The Chiefs didn't shut down the Broncos. We just beat them.

So? You also lost to the Bills by double-digits.

5. Seattle is 4th, Philadelphia is 13th, and the Giants are 9th. That's 1 good offense and 2 average ones.

No, that was three very good offenses when we played them (two of which have scored more points than the Chiefs' offense, and the other one hung 30 points and 396 yards on the Chiefs' defense one week before we held them to three points and 129 yards). The Eagles' statistical ranking was lowered because we shut them down twice, plus they've gone in the tank after losing McNabb. The Giants and Seahawks also would be ranked higher if we hadn't shut them both down a combined three times. And if we have the same type of performance Sunday as we've had in the past nine games, the Chiefs' stats won't look nearly as good after we're done with them, either.

Your final point is just an exaggeration of the facts. Your defense played well over a 3 game span against 1 good offense and 2 average offenses. You still lost the only road game in that stretch. It was your best 3-game stretch of the season in terms of winning %. It matches the Chiefs winning % for the season.

Wrong again. Our best three-game winning percentage is 1.000.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

You see what happens when you feed these trolls? QUOTE]

Do not agree TF33.

These two teams seem well matched. Believe D-fense is going to be key from both perspectives. That said, whose O-fense will show up, whose O-fense has Been more consistent. Qb's line up fairly even: Rbs ..perhaps a KC edge if not contained by Dallas.

I pull with Dallas on this one ...only because I pull with all NFCE teams at this point. Eagles will be back with a healthy squad In 2006!

This is not troll-filled thtread -- in fact, it's very interesting reading. The KC squad is giving some real enlightening perspectives.

 

[Chief3188]

Ok first, if we coudl take back the turnovers and missed kicks we would have only lost two games.

Well like your buddy broke back says, the stats are inflated so let's go by what the teams are doing now. I am just playign by his rules. You have only played two teams with winning records.

My bad I meant to say 9 of your games, I am a little fired up here. Oh and you can stop with the kid stuff, I am probally older than you and I actually follow the NFL.

There have been plenty of times our defense has bent and not broken. They have recovered all year minus the washington game from big plays.

If you want to compare our losses 2 ints by bledsoe and two missed fieldgoals suck especially in the last few minutes of the game. could of would of should of don't matter now.

Again got a little fired up I meant the NFL Champs, your buddy talked about how good the patriots are, but their division sucks and they are not playing well at all.

WE did beat ourselves, missed fieldgoals and poor reads. 2 missed field goals and 2 poor passes.

Your right I don't follow the chiefs that much and it was the 2003 season. I just remember there was a big anomoly that year for you guys. But yes yo ulost on jan 11.

Ok I will check out chiefshuddle

Hello Mcfly - anybody home ??? The Chiefs have played Denver twice, San Diego once and New England -- That is 4 winning teams - Now do this with me here and put up one of your hands and use your fingers to count to 4 ( In Count Dracula voice from sesame street ) uh 1, uh 2, uh 3, uh 4 -- 4, Four, Fore, For ---

I am not making excuses for our losses - They happened and its in the past and as of late the Chiefs have been playing great and you can say what you want about our defense but here are some fun stats for you regarding our defense that seems to be quite underrated this year --

Rush Defense: 91.8 ypg rank - 5th

20+ yard runs: 4 rank - T-3rd

Forced fumbles: 30 rank - 1st

Fumbles recovered: 13 rank - T-2nd

Takeaways: 25 rank - T-7th

Turnover diff.: +7 rank - T-7th

Defensive 3rd down %: 34.9% rank - 7th

Defensive 4th down %: 28.6% rank - 8th

Defensive penalties: 65 rank - 1st

Def. penalty yards: 582 rank - 5th

 

[the_h0wey]

LJ won't run for 100 on dallas just wait and see...

 

[percyhoward]

Average offensive rankings of teams faced;

Carolina - 21.4
Tampa Bay - 21.6
Chicago - 21.0
Dallas - 12.9

That's the best post of this whole thread.

If we could go a whole season having played teams that average in the top 10 offenses, and finish as a top 5 defense, that would be more of an accomplishment than what our D did in 2003.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I thought we were playing the Chiefs tomorrow not the 78 Steelers!. I had no idea that KC was such a powerhouse. Thanks for enlighting us.

 

[brokeback]

Oh my god kid do you even watch football lol ?? There are too many errors in that statement for me to even begin.

Most of the CZ posters are intelligent fans. Just not the clowns that have been posting lately on this particular thread.

 

[brokeback]

Ok first, if we coudl take back the turnovers and missed kicks we would have only lost two games.

Well like your buddy broke back says, the stats are inflated so let's go by what the teams are doing now. I am just playign by his rules. You have only played two teams with winning records.
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Are you completely dense?
We have played the Broncos twice.
We have played the Chargers once.
We have played the Patriots once.
That adds up to 4 games against 3 teams. This is very simple math.
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My bad I meant to say 9 of your games, I am a little fired up here. Oh and you can stop with the kid stuff, I am probally older than you and I actually follow the NFL.
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Even if you had typed what you meant, it would still be wrong. Also, I love the way you consider the Eagles to be a great team when discussing your schedule but point out their losing record when discussing ours.
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There have been plenty of times our defense has bent and not broken. They have recovered all year minus the washington game from big plays.
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They've been broken/outplayed in 5 games this year. It's a good defense. It's not a great defense.
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If you want to compare our losses 2 ints by bledsoe and two missed fieldgoals suck especially in the last few minutes of the game. could of would of should of don't matter now.
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Pissing games away doesn't make you a better team. The other teams capitalized on your mistakes without beating themselves. You should be a Bronco fan. They never get beat. They just beat themselves.
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Again got a little fired up I meant the NFL Champs, your buddy talked about how good the patriots are, but their division sucks and they are not playing well at all.
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They're playing better than the Cowboys. They have the same record. They lead the division. They aren't coming off back to back losses like the Cowboys.
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WE did beat ourselves, missed fieldgoals and poor reads. 2 missed field goals and 2 poor passes.
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More of the same. Crapping all over yourselves is not the mark of a good team.
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Your right I don't follow the chiefs that much and it was the 2003 season. I just remember there was a big anomoly that year for you guys. But yes yo ulost on jan 11.
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We lost in the second round that year. What does that have to do with Sunday's game? Absolutely nothing.
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Ok I will check out chiefshuddle

Knock yourself out.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

brokeback is just trolling now.

Got to love it... 'You haven't faced good offenses." Yet when you point out that we have, the answer is that "Oh, but you lost the game anyway" (As if our terrible offense couldn't be the culprit) or "So-and-so is not a juggernaut", assuming that the Eagles of today minus McNabb, Owens, and Westbrook are the same team we played months ago.

At one time we faced three #1 offenses in a row by one criteria or another and we shut them all down. Does it mean we will shut you down, too? No, everyone knows you have a very good offense. But I will say that I hope the team itself is as overconfident as its fans are.

 

[brokeback]

Do not agree TF33.

These two teams seem well matched. Believe D-fense is going to be key from both perspectives. That said, whose O-fense will show up, whose O-fense has Been more consistent. Qb's line up fairly even: Rbs ..perhaps a KC edge if not contained by Dallas.

I pull with Dallas on this one ...only because I pull with all NFCE teams at this point. Eagles will be back with a healthy squad In 2006!

This is not troll-filled thtread -- in fact, it's very interesting reading. The KC squad is giving some real enlightening perspectives.

You're babbling. You're hysterical. You're not making any sense!

On a Cowboys board, you are supposed to say that the Cowboys have shut out every opponent they have faced this year. The Eagles were great when they played the Cowboys and awful when they played the Chiefs.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[brokeback]

LJ won't run for 100 on dallas just wait and see...

It's possible, but what do you base this prediction on? Johnson easily leads the league in rushing since he became the starter. The Cowboys have given up 271 rushing yards the last 2 weeks. I'm well aware of your successes earlier in the year, but that's not the way you're playing right now. Philly had some success earlier this year too, but it's all about where a team is at this point in the season that matters. Johnson's coming off a game against the #1 run defense in the entire NFL. He ran fo 90 yards in the 4th quarter alone. He ran for 119 yards against the 2-time defending SB champions the week before than. He ran for 211 yards before being taken out of the game against a crappy team the week before that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

brokeback, you're still talkling?

you're like those chicks who get abused by their boyfriends, yet still love them

 

[brokeback]

Yes I'm so battered from you mental heavyweights.

 

[brokeback]

JOHNSON WINS FEDEX GROUND NFL PLAYER OF THE WEEK HONOR
Dec 09, 2005, 2:33:56 PM


The National Football League informed the Chiefs on Friday that RB Larry Johnson has been selected as the FedEx NFL Ground Player of the Week by voters on NFL.com for his performance against the Denver Broncos last Sunday. This is the first time in his career he has been chosen for the award.
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Johnson (6-1, 230) carried the ball 30 times for 140 yards with two touchdowns, as the Chiefs pulled out a 31-27 win over the rival Broncos. Facing the NFL’s top-ranked rush defense at the time, Johnson got stronger as the game went on, racking up 90 yards in the fourth quarter and scoring the game-winning touchdown on a four-yard sweep to the right corner of the end zone. Johnson also tied a franchise record by rushing for over 100 yards in his fifth consecutive game, tying the mark set by RB Priest Holmes in 2002.

The Penn State University product is in his third season with the Chiefs after joining the club as a first-round selection in the 2003 NFL Draft. Johnson is the eighth player in Chiefs history to eclipse the 1,000-yard rushing mark in a season, as he has carried the ball 221 times for 1,108 yards (5.0 avg.) with 11 TDs this season. His 1,108 yards rushing rank third in the AFC and sixth in the NFL, while his 709 rushing yards since November 1st are the most in the NFL during that time period. Johnson also owns the best three-game rushing total in club history with 470 yards (211 at Houston, 119 vs. New England and 140 vs. Denver).