Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

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summerisfunner said:
New York's O was pathetic against us, 1 TD

we ended Plummers consecutive passes w/o an INT streak

so yeah, that's what I'm referring to
So what? You still lost. I've never seen fans who pound their chests over losses the way CZ posters do. The Chiefs put up a bushel on Philly, but we lost the game. Our defense was excellent against Buffalo, but we lost the game. I hope that next week you brag about how good your defense looked in a loss to the Chiefs.
 

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how am I pounding my chest? I'm just pointing out fact, you should try it sometimes, and I happen to like our D's chances against your O, you're only real advantage heading into the game
 

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summerisfunner said:
DJ isn't a very good pass-rusher, that's never been his forte
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School: Texas Position: Weakside Linebacker Class: Senior Height: 6'3" Weight: 242lbs Birthday: 11/22/82 40 Time: 4.54

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Speed is one of Derrick’s biggest strengths. He has the ability to cover sideline to sideline. He has proven to be an accomplished blitzer and shows good instincts on the field. Coverage is an area that Derrick also has a good amount of success in.

Looks like you need to set some scouts straight regarding his blitzing ability. He doesn't do it a lot, but he is effective when he does.
 

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how many sacks did he have in college? how many times was he asked to blitz in college? not many, cuz that wasn't his forte, running sideline to sideline, and coverage is...so again, he isnt' a very good pass-rusher, there's a reason his college and pro team didn't/doesn't ask him too, and if he was very good, there's no way in hell KC would ask him to stay back in coverage all the time, when only Jared Allen can provide the heat

if someone is very good at something, an NFL team will damn, well, find a way to utilize it
 

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brokeback said:
So what? You still lost. I've never seen fans who pound their chests over losses the way CZ posters do. The Chiefs put up a bushel on Philly, but we lost the game. Our defense was excellent against Buffalo, but we lost the game. I hope that next week you brag about how good your defense looked in a loss to the Chiefs.
Please don't use that brush on all the Zone posters... Most of the posts in this thread have been about the defense. And that's what most are discussing. And it's also what we hang our hats on when it comes to the team. We don't know which offense will show up on Sun, but we know our D will...

I don't see alot of chest pounding related to the game losses. The examples being posted are related to the D's performance in the game. Not the actual game itself.

Now if you want to discuss a specific game in which we loss, then I suggest start a new thread. While we have our share of homers on this board, most are a pretty realistic bunch as it relates to the talent level of the team.
 

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summerisfunner said:
how am I pounding my chest? I'm just pointing out fact, you should try it sometimes, and I happen to like our D's chances against your O, you're only real advantage heading into the game
I guess we must not have a Special Teams advantage.
I love to point out facts.
It is a fact that you lost to NY last week.
It is a fact that you lost to DEN the week before that.
It is a fact that the Chiefs have won 3 in a row.
 

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WoodysGirl said:
Please don't use that brush on all the Zone posters... Most of the posts in this thread have been about the defense. And that's what most are discussing. And it's also what we hang our hats on when it comes to the team. We don't know which offense will show up on Sun, but we know our D will...

I don't see alot of chest pounding related to the game losses. The examples being posted are related to the D's performance in the game. Not the actual game itself.

Now if you want to discuss a specific game in which we loss, then I suggest start a new thread. While we have our share of homers on this board, most are a pretty realistic bunch as it relates to the talent level of the team.
I don't paint you all with that brush, but there are several covered in paint.
You personally have provided reasonable, well-thought out analysis and opinion with the occasional homerism sprinkled in here and there. That's exactly what every poster should do.
This thread was actually started to discuss the fact that the Cowboys have given up well over 100 yards in the last 2 games. Starting a new thread to discuss those specific games would be redundant.
 

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summerisfunner said:
have we lost because of our D? NOPE!

You lost to Denver after your D gave up a huge run to...who was it again? Jim Brown? Walter Payton? I remember now. It was Ron freaking Dayne.
Did your offense show up big in that game? No.
Did your special teams have a great day? No.
Did your defense shut down the Broncos? No.
I will admit that the Cowboys only looked like garbage on offense and special teams last week. The defense played well, but they were outplayed by the Giants.
 

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Cundiff makes that kick, we win the game, Dayne doesn't break that long run

why do you keep trying to argue with me about our D?

argue about something you can keep up with, such as our offense

c'mon, give yourself a fighting chance nit-picker
 

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This thread was created to ask questions about our defense. I believe most of the posters in this thread have made legitimate, well thought out arguments about the proficiency of the defense. Bonebrake, you've been shown how the Cowboys defense is on par with the best in the league, despite facing MUCH tougher competition. You respond with the statement that great defenses win games. You're shown how defenses you consider great (Chicago andCarolina) have lost games for their teams. You say that great defenses don't win EVERY game. Well, which is it? Our defense has put us in position to WIN EVERY GAME this year. Every single one. They have comparable stats to the best defenses in the league, despite facing tougher competition.

It has become blatantly obvious that you are trying to do nothing but argue, as I have never seen someoene backtrack, or shift the focus of his argument more than you.
 

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Broke, you kill me, I give you facts you give me excuses.

Fact, the cowboys shut down offenses.
Fact, the cowboys played the top scoring offenses three weeks strait and shut them down.
Fact the Cowboys also went on a three game winning streak.
Fact Roy Williams is the Best SS in the league and he will be in the box (I hope LJ brought his depends undergarments to wear)
Fact, no team has returned a kick or punt on us for a touchdown.
Fact, as bad as our offense is, we lead the NFL is ToP.
Fact, your highpowered Offense has only scored 4 more TD's than us and we have been missing our Probowl LT for most of the year and have a 6th round rookie playing at right. (in fact I think it is kinda funny that your high powered offense only has 4 more TD's than us and they have 3 Probowl Linemen.......If we had three prowbowl linemen....I belive we would be undefeated.)
Fact philly and Denver both hung 30+ on you. Niether team scored no where near that on us.
Fact, two of your wins in your three game winning streak were gimmies. (Houston, New England)
Fact, you kicker ain't that great past 40 yards. (Not that ours is any better)
Fact your AWSOME special teamer DH, has only scored one TD this year.

You team ain't that great, I am not saying we are much better, but I like how we match up against you. Your offensive strengths play right into our defensive strengths. Honestly teams that give us problems are teams that generate a lot of pressure and have TWO good DE. We can account for one, two makes life hard for us. This will not be a high scoring game. LJ will not get 100 yards and TG will not surpass 250. Better hope your kicker can kick better thant 57% from beyond 30.
 

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Pardon me mr. sacase, but your facts have no place here. We're only dealing in ignorant Cowboy bashing at the moment. But, if you comeback after the troll is gone, you might be able to carry on a legitimate conversation.
 

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Hey SuperPunk. Good to see you. Congratulations Summer. You're no longer the most uninformed person on this thread.
 

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sacase said:
Broke, you kill me, I give you facts you give me excuses.

Fact, the cowboys shut down offenses.
Fact, the cowboys played the top scoring offenses three weeks strait and shut them down.
Fact the Cowboys also went on a three game winning streak.
Fact Roy Williams is the Best SS in the league and he will be in the box (I hope LJ brought his depends undergarments to wear)
Fact, no team has returned a kick or punt on us for a touchdown.
Fact, as bad as our offense is, we lead the NFL is ToP.
Fact, your highpowered Offense has only scored 4 more TD's than us and we have been missing our Probowl LT for most of the year and have a 6th round rookie playing at right. (in fact I think it is kinda funny that your high powered offense only has 4 more TD's than us and they have 3 Probowl Linemen.......If we had three prowbowl linemen....I belive we would be undefeated.)
Fact philly and Denver both hung 30+ on you. Niether team scored no where near that on us.
Fact, two of your wins in your three game winning streak were gimmies. (Houston, New England)
Fact, you kicker ain't that great past 40 yards. (Not that ours is any better)
Fact your AWSOME special teamer DH, has only scored one TD this year.

You team ain't that great, I am not saying we are much better, but I like how we match up against you. Your offensive strengths play right into our defensive strengths. Honestly teams that give us problems are teams that generate a lot of pressure and have TWO good DE. We can account for one, two makes life hard for us. This will not be a high scoring game. LJ will not get 100 yards and TG will not surpass 250. Better hope your kicker can kick better thant 57% from beyond 30.

murder she wrote

count 'em, this dude is finished
 

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brokeback said:
Hey SuperPunk. Good to see you. Congratulations Summer. You're no longer the most uninformed person on this thread.

I guess being informed, to you, means carrying alot of conjecture around, instead of facts

****, I'll gladly call myself uninformed
 

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brokeback said:
Hey SuperPunk. Good to see you. Congratulations Summer. You're no longer the most uninformed person on this thread.

You've been here the whole damn time, so that would be impossible.
 
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