Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

[brokeback]

I'm not going to get involved in this discussion except to ask a question and point out something you don't know about this Cowboys team. If your talking about 5 new starters compared to last years roster then you should be aware that last week against the Giants the Cowboys started 9 defensive players who didn't start for them last year.

Among them are 3 rookies, 3 players that we signed as free agents and 3 players which are 2nd or 3rd year players which had been reserve and ST players. I would think that warrants some "gel" time as well, but they have maintained a decent ranking while facing some of the highest powered offenses in the NFL.

You haven't faced the "highest powered offences in the NFL." You've got 1 impressive win this year, and it came in week 1. Conversely, you gave up more points to the 49ers than the Chiefs have given up to anyone all year.

 

[jspchief]

Personally I think the biggest challenge Dallas faces against KC is Gonzalez not Larry Johnson. Dallas will be more than ready for the KC running game how we go about covering Gonzalez will be the big question

I said the same thing on our Chiefs board. If your defense has a weakness, it would be the middle of your secondary (in pass coverage). gonzalez probably has the best chance to have a big day, if any Chiefs player does.

 

[TunaFan33]

Is this BB not used to long threads filled with intelligent football discussion?

No-was just wondering why Chiefs fans have nothing better to do.

Personally-I like Vermeil alot, and the Chiefs are a pretty darn good football team. However, it's not even noon yet, and aren't alot of you supposed to be busy at work and school?

 

[brokeback]

Personally I think the biggest challenge Dallas faces against KC is Gonzalez not Larry Johnson. Dallas will be more than ready for the KC running game how we go about covering Gonzalez will be the big question

Gonzalez is still a good TE, but he's not what he used to be. He gets a lot of catches and is more of a possession receiver than a game breaker now.

 

[brokeback]

No-was just wondering why Chiefs fans have nothing better to do.

Personally-I like Vermeil alot, and the Chiefs are a pretty darn good football team. However, it's not even noon yet, and aren't alot of you supposed to be busy at work and school?

No. We're chatting on the same board you are.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[ChiefsGirl]

No-was just wondering why Chiefs fans have nothing better to do.

Personally-I like Vermeil alot, and the Chiefs are a pretty darn good football team. However, it's not even noon yet, and aren't alot of you supposed to be busy at work and school?

Don't tell my boss.

 

[Doomsday101]

I said the same thing on our Chiefs board. If your defense has a weakness, it would be the middle of your secondary (in pass coverage). gonzalez probably has the best chance to have a big day, if any Chiefs player does.

Well no doubt he presents a challenge for the Cowboys secondary. Dallas has had some good results and some bad results aginst some of the top TE in the league.

 

[Doomsday101]

Gonzalez is still a good TE, but he's not what he used to be. He gets a lot of catches and is more of a possession receiver than a game breaker now.

True but he is still the main target of Green leading all KC receivers with the 59 catches.

 

[mrecktid]

Why is everyone calling these Chiefs fans trolls?

They came here and asked a legitimate question and they get attacked by a few individuals for it.

They haven't responded harshly or egged on a flaming.

Can't we have a civilized discussion with fellow football fans?

Btw, to the question.

We gave up 100+ yards to Denver because Dayne made a good run in OT and we had some missed tackles. I'm not excusing the defense, I'm just giving the reason for the 100+ yards.

We gave up 100+ yards to the Giants because we were down 0-17. All Coughlin wanted to do was kill as much time as possible. So they ran the ball very often, the more you run, the closer you'll get to 100 yards which they achieved.

 

[brokeback]

True but he is still the main target of Green leading all KC receivers with the 59 catches.

True, but he's just not the weapon he used to be. He used to be a big-play guy similar to what Antonio Gates is now. His career is similar to Keyshawn's in that respect.

 

[TunaFan33]

Why is everyone calling these Chiefs fans trolls?

They came here and asked a legitimate question and they get attacked by a few individuals for it.

They haven't responded harshly or egged on a flaming.

Can't we have a civilized discussion with fellow football fans?

OK-maybe I was a bit harsh.

However-the bad thing about these discussions with fans of the other teams is that whatever we say and whatever they say will NOT change either's minds-which makes these discussions just go on, and on, and on like that Energizer Bunny-making alot of these arguments pointless on end.

Yes-we have a good run D. Yes-they too have a good run D. However-we're now having a pointless argument going into infinity how we suck, they suck, we rule, they rule, etc. Don't we have alot of work to finish up before our bosses light up our tails?

 

[brokeback]

Why is everyone calling these Chiefs fans trolls?

They came here and asked a legitimate question and they get attacked by a few individuals for it.

They haven't responded harshly or egged on a flaming.

Can't we have a civilized discussion with fellow football fans?

Btw, to the question.

We gave up 100+ yards to Denver because Dayne made a good run in OT and we had some missed tackles. I'm not excusing the defense, I'm just giving the reason for the 100+ yards.

The Broncos are incredibly good at breaking the big run. They've carved up the Chiefs on the ground like no other team over the years. That game made me sick.

 

[WoodysGirl]

OK-maybe I was a bit harsh.

However-the bad thing about these discussions with fans of the other teams is that whatever we say and whatever they say will NOT change either's minds-which makes these discussions just go on, and on, and on like that Energizer Bunny-making alot of these arguments pointless on end.

Yes-we have a good run D. Yes-they too have a good run D. However-we're now having a pointless argument going into infinity how we suck, they suck, we rule, they rule, etc. Don't we have alot of work to finish up before our bosses light up our tails?

But that's the whole point of this discussion board. Do you realize how many "pointless" arguments are held everyday on this board about our very own cowboys among the fans? It's good to hear opposing fans views, even if we don't agree.

It's good discussion. Let's not be so territorial about the site that we can't allow other teams fans to come and hold a discussion about the upcoming game or any other football topics.

 

[TunaFan33]

The Broncos are incredibly good at breaking the big run. They've carved up the Chiefs on the ground like no other team over the years. That game made me sick.

That and thanks to Mike Shanahan's system-Plummer is looking like Joe Montana out there.

If Plummer were here and Bledsoe in Denver-Plummer would be stinking up the joint, and Bledsoe would STILL be lighting it up.

 

[mrecktid]

OK-maybe I was a bit harsh.

However-the bad thing about these discussions with fans of the other teams is that whatever we say and whatever they say will NOT change either's minds-which makes these discussions just go on, and on, and on like that Energizer Bunny-making alot of these arguments pointless on end.

Yes-we have a good run D. Yes-they too have a good run D. However-we're now having a pointless argument going into infinity how we suck, they suck, we rule, they rule, etc. Don't we have alot of work to finish up before our bosses light up our tails?

While I realize there are some discussiosn that go on and on. I'd rather have a discussion with a respectful Chiefs fans than a Deadskins/Gints/Iggles fan.

 

[jspchief]

But that's the whole point of this discussion board. Do you realize how many "pointless" arguments are held everyday on this board about our very own cowboys among the fans? It's good to hear opposing fans views, even if we don't agree.

It's good discussion. Let's not be so territorial about the site that we can't allow other teams fans to come and hold a discussion about the upcoming game or any other football topics.

Exactly. We can all sit on our own sites and rehash the same dicussions with the same people every day. Or we can got find some new opinons from opposing fans, and discuss the week's matchup.

I'm not on a crusade to convert Cowboys, or even make them say nice things about my team. I'm just looking for some fresh perspectives.

 

[TunaFan33]

Exactly. We can all sit on our own sites and rehash the same dicussions with the same people every day. Or we can got find some new opinons from opposing fans, and discuss the week's matchup.

I'm not on a crusade to convert Cowboys, or even make them say nice things about my team. I'm just looking for some fresh perspectives.

Don't get me wrong-I'm not Chiefs fan, but they ARE a pretty good football team. What's most amazing about them is the positive attitude and energy a 70 year old coach brings to this team. And yes, any team with a dangerous TE is pretty scary too.

I'm just glad we're NOT playing at Arrowhead, that's all. If anything, the crowd noise was probably the Skins' ultimate undoing there.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

You haven't faced the "highest powered offences in the NFL." You've got 1 impressive win this year, and it came in week 1. Conversely, you gave up more points to the 49ers than the Chiefs have given up to anyone all year.

Wrong again! The Cowboys have faced a current top 10 rated offense 5 times this season.

#4 Seattle in Seattle which we lost 13 - 10 at the very end of the game.
#5 Denver at home we lost in OT 24 - 21. (7 of Denvers points were scored by their defense)
#6 San Diego in SD which we won 28 - 24. (this game was the first for our completely rebuilt defense)
#10 New York Giants twice winning in Dallas 16 - 13 and losing in NYC 17 - 10.

In addition to our first game wk 5 against Philadelphia who at the time had the #1 ranked offense which we won 33 -10.

Your team has faced only 2 top ten rated offenses.

#5 Denver twice losing one 30 - 10 and winning 31 - 27.
#6 San Diego which you lost 28 - 20.

We have indeed faced many of the top ranked offenses this year and have held our own defensively. We had some early season lapses but they have become less and less a factor as the defense played together.

 

[superpunk]

Because the opposing backs gained over 100 yards rushing.

Phenomenal answer.

 

[AmishCowboy]

After we beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you'll never see these Chiefs fans again, just like the Eagle fans have now gone away. BTW, It's funny that they called Bledsoe immobile when they have Green who is only upright because they have one of the best O-lines in football.