Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

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ChiefsGirl said:
An immobile QB isn't a problem when you're not starting Torren Tucker.

Yes-OL is the big key. However-Flozell Adams isn't a baby-sitter either.

Trent Green may be imobile, but he does alot of the little things to be mobile enough. When Roaf was out, he still played pretty well.
 

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TunaFan33 said:
Yes-OL is the big key. However-Flozell Adams isn't a baby-sitter either.

Trent Green may be imobile, but he does alot of the little things to be mobile enough. When Roaf was out, he still played pretty well.

Flozell Adams won't be playing Sunday, I think the Cowboys offense has dropped off a lot since his injury.

Of course, even Michael Vick wouldn't have escaped that missed block by Gurode last week.
 

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If anyone should be able to relate to the offensive problems the Cowboys are having now, it should be Chefs fans. It's all about the LT babay! You lose your LT, it screws everything up. I have Tony G on my fantasy team, I know. Early on, they were far less effective because of having to cover for Roaf's absence all the time.
 

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Flozell Adams won't be playing Sunday, I think the Cowboys offense has dropped off a lot since his injury.

Of course, even Michael Vick wouldn't have escaped that missed block by Gurode last week.

Nah-we already had OL problems from the word GO.

I agree that the LT position is the biggest key to the OL, but we already had problems at C and the right side to begin with. IOW-we were one blow away from it being desimated completely. Hopefully-Bill P will get OLs in the draft next year like he did gangbusters D in last year's draft.

FWIW-when Adams was gone in that second half of the Gints game a couple of months ago, Bledsoe DID cooly lead the game-winning drive in OT. IOW-his poor play of recent has been mostly on him.
 

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After we beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you'll never see these Chiefs fans again, just like the Eagle fans have now gone away. BTW, It's funny that they called Bledsoe immobile when they have Green who is only upright because they have one of the best O-lines in football. :lmao:

Green doesn't run, but he's got excellent footwork inside the pocket. He's as good as anyone at dodging a defender who seems to have him dead to rites. Besides, his lack of mobility isn't an issue because he can balance his checkbook in the pocket while being protected by 3 (and sometimes as many as 4) players who were in the Probowl last year based solely on their blocking ability.

Bledsoe, on the other hand, does get hurt by his lack of mobility because his line isn't the best.
 

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If anyone should be able to relate to the offensive problems the Cowboys are having now, it should be Chefs fans. It's all about the LT babay! You lose your LT, it screws everything up. I have Tony G on my fantasy team, I know. Early on, they were far less effective because of having to cover for Roaf's absence all the time.

Ain't that the truth. Willie Roaf's return has changed EVERYTHING. Jordan Black was little more than an annoyance to D-Linemen.
 

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LJ is a stud and on my fantasy team......but, he is playing my real team the Dallas Cowboys.......therefore, he is on the bench!
 

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Next_years_Champs said:
Wrong again! The Cowboys have faced a current top 10 rated offense 5 times this season.

#4 Seattle in Seattle which we lost 13 - 10 at the very end of the game.
#5 Denver at home we lost in OT 24 - 21. (7 of Denvers points were scored by their defense)
#6 San Diego in SD which we won 28 - 24. (this game was the first for our completely rebuilt defense)
#10 New York Giants twice winning in Dallas 16 - 13 and losing in NYC 17 - 10.

In addition to our first game wk 5 against Philadelphia who at the time had the #1 ranked offense which we won 33 -10.

Your team has faced only 2 top ten rated offenses.

#5 Denver twice losing one 30 - 10 and winning 31 - 27.
#6 San Diego which you lost 28 - 20.

We have indeed faced many of the top ranked offenses this year and have held our own defensively. We had some early season lapses but they have become less and less a factor as the defense played together.

Thanks for pointing that out to broke back...... I'm sure he didn't take the time to check scoring for those teams before he posted...... that ought to shut him up..... :D
 

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That's a big mistake. The guy's a monster. Don't let homerism kill your FF team.
 

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AmishCowboy said:
After we beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you'll never see these Chiefs fans again, just like the Eagle fans have now gone away. BTW, It's funny that they called Bledsoe immobile when they have Green who is only upright because they have one of the best O-lines in football. :lmao:

You are right AC...... the only way we will hear from them again is if the Chefs win.......
 

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We miss our injured players just like every team.

Our weak link on defense is Fujita replacing Singleton, but he is improving. We also miss Henry in run support, guy is a beast supporting the run on the corner.

The only games we've been ran on were games where we didn't expect them to run, for some reason we just can't adjust during the game. Those games were San Fran, Oakland, and Philly.

Adams being hurt makes 7 step drops a thing of the past and we can only call 5 step drops occasionally. Bldesoe doesn't perform well as a 3 step drop guy.
 

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Thanks for pointing that out to broke back...... I'm sure he didn't take the time to check scoring for those teams before he posted...... that ought to shut him up..... :D

Not really. I never said the Chiefs shut down a bunch of great offenses. San Diego scored a lot of points on you. That wasn't exactly a shutout. They got into the Endzone 3 times. Philly's no juggernaut and neither is NY. You really slowed down Seattle, but you lost. You slowed down Denver some, but you lost. The Bears have a great defense. The Panthers have an excellent defense. The Cowboys have a good defense. That's not an insult. It's just the truth. Teams with GREAT defenses don't have 7-5 records in a lousy conference. Period.
 

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You are right AC...... the only way we will hear from them again is if the Chefs win.......

We take our lumps. You're not a rival, though, so we won't be here 2 or 3 weeks from now or anything.
 

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You are right AC...... the only way we will hear from them again is if the Chefs win.......
Nah. I'll be in to congratulate you on the win. It's not like I'm in here making bold predictions, so there's no reason to shy away from here after the game.

It won't come until late Monday or Tuesday, because I don't get back from Dallas until then, but I'll be back, win or lose.
 

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Not really. I never said the Chiefs shut down a bunch of great offenses. San Diego scored a lot of points on you. That wasn't exactly a shutout. They got into the Endzone 3 times. Philly's no juggernaut and neither is NY. You really slowed down Seattle, but you lost. You slowed down Denver some, but you lost. The Bears have a great defense. The Panthers have an excellent defense. The Cowboys have a good defense. That's not an insult. It's just the truth. Teams with GREAT defenses don't have 7-5 records in a lousy conference. Period.

re-read your post brokeback...... you said WE didn't play any high scoring offenses...... Fact is, WE DID and we held the points relatively low except for Denver.....Sounds like you just want to argue......geez.
 

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Not really. I never said the Chiefs shut down a bunch of great offenses. San Diego scored a lot of points on you. That wasn't exactly a shutout. They got into the Endzone 3 times. Philly's no juggernaut and neither is NY. You really slowed down Seattle, but you lost. You slowed down Denver some, but you lost. The Bears have a great defense. The Panthers have an excellent defense. The Cowboys have a good defense. That's not an insult. It's just the truth. Teams with GREAT defenses don't have 7-5 records in a lousy conference. Period.

Team Points Allowed Team PPG Difference

San Diego-24---29.8---+5.8
Washington 14---20.1--- +6.1
San Francico 31---- 15.2---- -15.8
Oakland 19----- 20.8----- +1.8
Philly 10----- 20.8----- +10.8
NY Giants 13----- 26.6----- +13.6
Seattle 13----- 26.9----- +13.9
Arizona 13----- 19.9----- +6.9
Philly 20------ 20.8----- +.8
Detroit 7----- 15.8----- +8.8
Denver 24----- 25.8------ +1.8
NY Giants 17----- 26.6------ +9.9

We've held teams below their averages in all but 1 game this year. We've held top 10 offenses to around 10 points below their average output. When you compare the offenses we've faced, with the ones teams like Chicago, Carolina and Tampa have faced, it's not even close;

Average offensive rankings of teams faced;

Carolina - 21.4
Tampa Bay - 21.6
Chicago - 21.0
Dallas - 12.9

This is a great defense, dude, and it's only getting better.


(edit-why the heck doesn't it hold the spacing on my little chart? Had to put in stupid dashes.....)
 

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Nah. I'll be in to congratulate you on the win. It's not like I'm in here making bold predictions, so there's no reason to shy away from here after the game.

It won't come until late Monday or Tuesday, because I don't get back from Dallas until then, but I'll be back, win or lose.

I'll be looking for you win lose or draw.
 

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re-read your post brokeback...... you said WE didn't play any high scoring offenses...... Fact is, WE DID and we held the points relatively low except for Denver.....Sounds like you just want to argue......geez.

Why don't you go ahead and quote the part where I said you didn't play any high scoring offenses? I would guess you didn't quote it because I didn't say it. You've played some good offenses, but you haven't shut down a bunch of the top offenses, especially those in the AFC. San Diego and Denver each racked up plenty of points. You haven't played Indy. You haven't played Cincy. You haven't played KC.
You've played 3 AFC teams, all in our division. You've given up over 3 TDs a game on average. You have a good defense. You don't have an elite defense. Again, teams with great defenses don't go 7-5 in a terrible conference. You can't possibly refute this.
 
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