Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

[jobberone]

Because the opposing backs gained over 100 yards rushing.

You are Yogi Berra or a big fan. Loved it. Classic.

 

[aikemirv]

I said you haven't faced the highest powered offences (Colts, Bengals, Chiefs). I did not say what you accused me of saying ie. you have not faced a single high powered offense. You've played 3 AFC teams, all in the Chiefs' division. You're 1-2 and have given up over 21 points per game.
The teams you're using to puff out your chest over are average to good offenses (Giants, Eagles, Seahawks). The Seahawks game was your most impressive defensive performance of the season and you still lost the game. Now you're without your starting MLB and have 2 banged up CBs. I stand by my statement. You have a good D. You do not have a great D. Good defenses keep their teams in games. Great defenses win games.

Did you watch the Philly game - our D won that one. How about the NYG game, Aaron Glen and the D gave the offense 5 chances to score in the last qtr and a half.

D was responsible for two TD's in the last 3 games - thats pretty great if you ask me. Neutralized Eli Manning to the point that the Giants were afraid to pass the ball at the end of the game last week.

 

[1fisher]

I said you haven't faced the highest powered offences (Colts, Bengals, Chiefs). I did not say what you accused me of saying ie. you have not faced a single high powered offense. You've played 3 AFC teams, all in the Chiefs' division. You're 1-2 and have given up over 21 points per game.
The teams you're using to puff out your chest over are average to good offenses (Giants, Eagles, Seahawks). The Seahawks game was your most impressive defensive performance of the season and you still lost the game. Now you're without your starting MLB and have 2 banged up CBs. I stand by my statement. You have a good D. You do not have a great D. Good defenses keep their teams in games. Great defenses win games.

you should have been more specific with your initial post.......the offense (correct spelling) gave up points on turnovers to help that 21 points you came up with......

Our Defense did not give up points off turnovers in those losses...

Denver int returned for TD.... loss
Seattle int returned for game winning FG......loss
NYSG fumble returned for TD....loss

the defense actually held them to 17 points or less....

 

[superpunk]

you should have been more specific with your initial post.......the offense (correct spelling) gave up points on turnovers to help that 21 points you came up with......

Our Defense did not give up points off turnovers in those losses...

Denver int returned for TD.... loss
Seattle int returned for TD..... loss
NYSG fumble returned for TD....loss

the defense actually held them to 17 points or less....

Seattle didn't return a TD on us, it was SF.

 

[1fisher]

Did you watch the Philly game - our D won that one. How about the NYG game, Aaron Glen and the D gave the offense 5 chances to score in the last qtr and a half.

D was responsible for two TD's in the last 3 games - thats pretty great if you ask me. Neutralized Eli Manning to the point that the Giants were afraid to pass the ball at the end of the game last week.

aik..... the 26 year old doesn't "get it"........ I think he just wants to hear us say our defense sucks and KC's doesn't.... I guess we'll have to find out Sunday.

 

[brokeback]

Fine. I checked it both ways. We would be 4th. Carolina would sneak past us at 14.5 ppg. It's just too bad we're not on their level. You'd think that we could manage more than .1 ppg defensively while facing competition an average of 8 spots (offensively) higher, but we just couldn't get it done.

I'm not denying you have a good defense.
Carolina's defense wins games. Dallas's defense keeps games close. All of your woulda shoulda coulda hypotheticals don't amount to anything. Chicago and Carolina have pathetic offenses, but they have won a lot of games because their defense carries them. The same could be said for Jacksonville.
Your overall defensive numbers are good, but 5 of the top 6 offenses in the NFL are found in the AFC. You've played 3 teams from our division and have given up over 21 ppg against them for a combined record of 1-2. We have played 5 games against those same teams and have a combined record of 3-2. We've played 2 NFC teams, both in your division, and have gashed them for 30 ppg. I don't expect to score 30 on Sunday, but I'd be surprised if we don't score at least 20, probably around 24.

 

[1fisher]

Seattle didn't return a TD on us, it was SF.

I corrected it....... return for game winning FG...

 

[DBoys]

I'm not denying you have a good defense.
Carolina's defense wins games. Dallas's defense keeps games close. All of your woulda shoulda coulda hypotheticals don't amount to anything. Chicago and Carolina have pathetic offenses, but they have won a lot of games because their defense carries them. The same could be said for Jacksonville.
Your overall defensive numbers are good, but 5 of the top 6 offenses in the NFL are found in the AFC. You've played 3 teams from our division and have given up over 21 ppg against them for a combined record of 1-2. We have played 5 games against those same teams and have a combined record of 3-2. We've played 2 NFC teams, both in your division, and have gashed them for 30 ppg. I don't expect to score 30 on Sunday, but I'd be surprised if we don't score at least 20, probably around 24.

You won't score over 14 Henry is back.

 

[DMX690]

Yeah, i think Larry Johnson going to set the running record on us this Sunday, and the Chief are going to destroy this overrated defence of the Dallas Cowboys. We have no chance this sunday afternoon

 

[jspchief]

You won't score over 14 Henry is back.

I'll be shocked if we're held under 20. The only time that's happened this year has been in games where we were missing both our starting tackles. With Roaf healthy, we're a tough offense to hold down.

 

[brokeback]

aik..... the 26 year old doesn't "get it"........ I think he just wants to hear us say our defense sucks and KC's doesn't.... I guess we'll have to find out Sunday.

Evidently the 37 year old doesn't "get it". I've done nothing but say your defense is good. I've been dead on with my comments, and I've backed them up with facts and stats. That's why the brokeback fans like yourself have had to create strawmen.
I say your defense is good. You argue that I said they suck.
I say that you haven't faced the top offenses in the NFL ie. Cincy, Indy, and KC. AIK argues that I said they haven't faced a single good offense.
I've done nothing but bring up specifec points. You respond in bizarre absolutes.

 

[brokeback]

You won't score over 14 Henry is back.

That's possible. It would only be the 3rd time this year we've been held under 23, though. It would be the first time we've been held under 26 with a healthy O-line.

 

[Chief3188]

You won't score over 14 Henry is back.

Sure thing there skippy

 

[superpunk]

I'm not denying you have a good defense.
Carolina's defense wins games. Dallas's defense keeps games close. All of your woulda shoulda coulda hypotheticals don't amount to anything. Chicago and Carolina have pathetic offenses, but they have won a lot of games because their defense carries them. The same could be said for Jacksonville.
Your overall defensive numbers are good, but 5 of the top 6 offenses in the NFL are found in the AFC. You've played 3 teams from our division and have given up over 21 ppg against them for a combined record of 1-2. We have played 5 games against those same teams and have a combined record of 3-2. We've played 2 NFC teams, both in your division, and have gashed them for 30 ppg. I don't expect to score 30 on Sunday, but I'd be surprised if we don't score at least 20, probably around 24.

So, holding some of the highest scoring offenses in the league well below their scoring average isn't winning games? The defense is putting the team in position to win. Whether it be the offense or the kicking game, it's been other factors losing games for us. If Carolina and Chicago had to play OUR schedule, you can bet your *** they'd have a similar record as us. The fact is, they play inferior competition, and can get away with inferior offensive performances when they come up.

 

[Chief3188]

So, holding some of the highest scoring offenses in the league well below their scoring average isn't winning games? The defense is putting the team in position to win. Whether it be the offense or the kicking game, it's been other factors losing games for us. If Carolina and Chicago had to play OUR schedule, you can bet your *** they'd have a similar record as us. The fact is, they play inferior competition, and can get away with inferior offensive performances when they come up.

I have to give Dallas props - They have been within one play of winning every game this year. Kudos -- Should be a good game Sunday and let the best team win.

 

[1fisher]

I'm not denying you have a good defense.
Carolina's defense wins games. Dallas's defense keeps games close. All of your woulda shoulda coulda hypotheticals don't amount to anything. Chicago and Carolina have pathetic offenses, but they have won a lot of games because their defense carries them. The same could be said for Jacksonville.
Your overall defensive numbers are good, but 5 of the top 6 offenses in the NFL are found in the AFC. You've played 3 teams from our division and have given up over 21 ppg against them for a combined record of 1-2. We have played 5 games against those same teams and have a combined record of 3-2. We've played 2 NFC teams, both in your division, and have gashed them for 30 ppg. I don't expect to score 30 on Sunday, but I'd be surprised if we don't score at least 20, probably around 24.

your math is fuzzy.... you need to average what was actually scored on the defense and do not count int's or fumbles returned by the opposing team for TD's.... That stat does not count against the defense! Or maybe it does by your agenda???????

yea, you really gashed them! 29 point average.... pretty impressive... youngster

 

[aikemirv]

Sure thing there skippy

So, you guys know where to find us come Monday, Where do we find you?

 

[baj1dallas]

It wasn't Dat because he was more effective against the pass then the run with respect to Shanle.

I'd say the main reason Dallas gave up so many yards was missed assignments. I think if Fujita continues to play well, and Ferguson bothers to show up, the Boys will keep LJ to around 100 yards with not TDs. Look at Roy early to see whether he is playing the run aggressively or not, I think that will be telling as to how the game is gonna go.

 

[1fisher]

Evidently the 37 year old doesn't "get it". I've done nothing but say your defense is good. I've been dead on with my comments, and I've backed them up with facts and stats. That's why the brokeback fans like yourself have had to create strawmen.
I say your defense is good. You argue that I said they suck.
I say that you haven't faced the top offenses in the NFL ie. Cincy, Indy, and KC. AIK argues that I said they haven't faced a single good offense.
I've done nothing but bring up specifec points. You respond in bizarre absolutes.

I don't have time for you right now..... see ya Monday.

 

[Chief3188]

So, you guys know where to find us come Monday, Where do we find you?

At the bar still celebrating