Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

[Chief3188]

Brokeback

Fact is, your team is a run based team. You have score running the ball, however Dallas's run D is great, we have allowed only one hundred yard rusher this season and that was Tiki Barber. Please don't insult us by saying LJ is just as good or better then LT, he is not. If he was that good then he would have been starting already for someone. Even PH is not as good or complete as LT.

Dallas's corners will shut your passing game down, it's just not that good. Honestly for KC to win this game they will have to have a HUGE game from Gonzolez. Yes the AFC is known for having Some of the best offenses, but their defenses are truly pathetic. Fact is we have allowed 800 yards less in passing that you have. We have allowed 9 less touchdowns in the air and 1 less rushing touchdown. We may surrender yards, but we don't give up points. KC has 8 less sacks that us. You line may hold up but our defense is stout and stong. It KC scores more then 17 I will be suprised. LJ 75 yards 1 TD Cowboys 20-13.

LT is overrated -- He has been shut down by the Chiefs, Broncos, Cowboys, Eagles etc.... LJ has not been shut down since taking the starting job and LJ only has 70 yards less than LT and that is only starting 5 games and having 10 to 12 carries in the previous 7 games. Our passing game suffered early in the year due to missing 3 Olineman but since we have been put back together on the Oline our passing game is dominating once again - Just ask Denver, New England, San Diego etc... The Chiefs have not allowed a 100 yard rusher in 19 games and while I know that Jones is getting healthy again we have shut down much better than him too like LT, Jordan, Martin, Westbrook, Portis, Brown and Williams, Mgahee, Davis etc..... and our passing defense has improved by strides since the return of our other CB Warfield and have shut down some good pass offenses like the Patriots and Oaklands etc... and Denver put up some points on you and we have a better offense than they do. And if LJ was that good he would be starting for someone lol ??? What kind of logic is that -- Do you even know the story behind LJ at all or are you just flat out talking from your *** ??

 

[kojak]

I find it amusing but yet refreshing. Instead of putting on the fake hard *** look that most coaches do he shows his emotions and you actually know that he cares about his team and its players and its fans. More than you can say about a lot of other coaches in this league. What had me cracking up though was Parcells smacking his other coach like a child. Now that was pure comedy.

He didn't smack him, he gave him the "Ric Flair" knife edge chop and yelled "Woooooo" in his face.

 

[Chief3188]

So how exactly did we "win" 7 games? Was that all our offense? Let's see, our defense makes a great goal line stand in San Diego, Shuts down Philly, returns an INT for a TD in Philly to win the game, shut down Arizona, shut down the Giants, what more do you want from them? You say we're not in the same class as Chicago or Carolina? We've played a much tougher schedule than either, and have numbers that are nearly as good. Sorry, our defense is great. Unfortunately, our kicking game has sucked this year. You can keep trying to blame our defense, but your trolling comments hold no water.

I'll let you know when you say something even remotely resembling comedy. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck.

I would credit your defense for winning the games more so than your offense if thats what your looking for.

 

[superpunk]

He didn't smack him, he gave him the "Ric Flair" knife edge chop and yelled "Woooooo" in his face.

That Parcells and his wrestling obsession. He's got to learn there's a time and place.....

 

[Chief3188]

He didn't smack him, he gave him the "Ric Flair" knife edge chop and yelled "Woooooo" in his face.

lol - either way that was downright funny - He made that coach look like his little student ***** -- Its good to see a coach getting flared up at his other coaches when they are not performing rather than just blame the players.

 

[Hiero]

He didn't smack him, he gave him the "Ric Flair" knife edge chop and yelled "Woooooo" in his face.

lol one of the best posts ever. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[superpunk]

I would credit your defense for winning the games more so than your offense if thats what your looking for.

I'm not really "looking for" anything. Sometimes people come in with uneducated, poorly thought out arguments, and you have to set these people straight. But you're right, our defense has done what it needs to to a superlative degree. Unfortunately, our defense can't go out there and kick the ball. Otherwise, we'd be nailing 80 yarders in a 50 mph crosswind.

 

[jspchief]

Let me try and clarify the cheifs fans' perspective on our running game.

Over the past few years, we've gone into multiple games going up against the #1 rated run defense in the league. For example, last year when we played Atlanta, they were #1 against the run. We put up over 200 yards and 8 rushing TDs on them. We've faced other tough run defenses with the same results.

It's not that we don't respect your run D, we just have a high level of respect for what our team does against good run Defenses. It's certainly possible that the Cowboys will shut our run down. I just have a hard time imagining it because our running game so rarely does get shut down. Even when facing the best.

It's not homerism. It based on past performances.

 

[brokeback]

Brokeback

Fact is, your team is a run based team. You have score running the ball, however Dallas's run D is great, we have allowed only one hundred yard rusher this season and that was Tiki Barber. Please don't insult us by saying LJ is just as good or better then LT, he is not. If he was that good then he would have been starting already for someone. Even PH is not as good or complete as LT.

Dallas's corners will shut your passing game down, it's just not that good. Honestly for KC to win this game they will have to have a HUGE game from Gonzolez. Yes the AFC is known for having Some of the best offenses, but their defenses are truly pathetic. Fact is we have allowed 800 yards less in passing that you have. We have allowed 9 less touchdowns in the air and 1 less rushing touchdown. We may surrender yards, but we don't give up points. KC has 8 less sacks that us. You line may hold up but our defense is stout and stong. It KC scores more then 17 I will be suprised. LJ 75 yards 1 TD Cowboys 20-13.

I never said LJ was better than LT. I haven't even mentioned LT. I would say that Johnson is the better runner, but LT is the more complete back. Priest was as good or better than LT when Johnson was his backup, though. LT has a tendency to completely disappear every now and then. That's neither here nor there, though.
KC does not need a huge game from Gonzalez to win. He is not a focal point of our offense any longer. He draws a crowd. That's as important as anything else he does.
Your defense has better numbers than ours to be sure. Ours does create more turnovers, though.
Dallas hasn't been very effective in slowing down AFC teams this year, and I don't think this week will be any different.
It's great that you have only given up 1 hundred yard rusher this year. Why don't you investigate which team has the longest streak in the NFL of not allowing a 100 yard rusher? I'll give you a hint, their mascot is the Chiefs.
The Chiefs are peaking. The Cowboys are floundering. We're the healthiest we've been all year, our offense is hitting on all cylinders, and our defense is really starting to play well, especially against teams with pocket passers. We still struggle against QBs who can scramble and make plays, but I don't think Bledsoe qualifies.
Our 3 defensive letdowns have come against Brees, Plummer, and McNabb, and they were all early in the year when we were missing one or both of our starting corners.
This should be a good game. If it were in KC, I would expect the Chiefs to put it on the Cowboys. In Dallas, I expect a close game.

 

[superpunk]

lol - either way that was downright funny - He made that coach look like his little student ***** -- Its good to see a coach getting flared up at his other coaches when they are not performing rather than just blame the players.

Hey, sometimes Wayne Brady just has to choke a *****. It happens. Sometimes Todd haley gets out of line and tries to yell at the officials. Then, Parcells just has to let Todd Haley know who's boss, and slap a *****.

 

[sacase]

I think you might be suprised by what our passing offense is capable of. We certainly prefer to run the ball, but we've been one of the most prolific passing offense in the league for 4 years straight. Trent Green has only been rivaled by Manning over the last 3 years.

We've played 4 games and 3 teams (played philly twice)that have higher rated passing offenses than you. They had 160, 131, 218, and 183 yards against us in the air. only one got more than 200 against us and that was in the second game of the year. We don't give up alot of yards. Seriously you better pray that Gonzo has a great game or more than likely Drew has a horrible on....well average one in turnovers for him. But your not going to move the ball aginst us that much. Hope you guys create a lot fo turnovers on our end of the field. No one has beat us by more than 7 all year.

 

[brokeback]

So how exactly did we "win" 7 games? Was that all our offense? Let's see, our defense makes a great goal line stand in San Diego, Shuts down Philly, returns an INT for a TD in Philly to win the game, shut down Arizona, shut down the Giants, what more do you want from them? You say we're not in the same class as Chicago or Carolina? We've played a much tougher schedule than either, and have numbers that are nearly as good. Sorry, our defense is great. Unfortunately, our kicking game has sucked this year. You can keep trying to blame our defense, but your trolling comments hold no water.

I'll let you know when you say something even remotely resembling comedy. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck.

I'm not "blaming your defense" for anything. I'm simply saying that teams with great defenses don't give up 31 points to San Francisco. (That's more than the Chiefs have given up in any game this year.) They also don't have 7-5 records in a weak conference. Great defenses find ways to win games with turnovers and defensive scores. Good defenses keep the game close and hope the offense doesn't blow the game.

 

[Doomsday101]

I find it amusing but yet refreshing. Instead of putting on the fake hard *** look that most coaches do he shows his emotions and you actually know that he cares about his team and its players and its fans. More than you can say about a lot of other coaches in this league. What had me cracking up though was Parcells smacking his other coach like a child. Now that was pure comedy.

Just as you said with Vermile that is the way Bill is. He is a Jersey guy and his actions sometimes are rough. In the end I think he reacts to the issue at hand but does not hold it aginst the person. After all this is the same Parcells who got into shouting matches with Phil Simms quite a bit yet both guys have respect for one another and hold no ill will towards each other.

 

[superpunk]

I'm not "blaming your defense" for anything. I'm simply saying that teams with great defenses don't give up 31 points to San Francisco. (That's more than the Chiefs have given up in any game this year.) They also don't have 7-5 records in a weak conference. Great defenses find ways to win games with turnovers and defensive scores. Good defenses keep the game close and hope the offense doesn't blow the game.

The Colts only scored 13 on the Browns. Sometimes, great units have an off day. In regards to SF, that was early in the year, when we were still feeling the defense out, and a little hung over from the monday night embarassment in WSH. The defense had a bad half, rallied, and the offense won the game. Sometimes great units struggle. It happens. What great defenses do, though, is hold offenses like Seattle and NY well below their scoring output for the season.Like I said, if you put the Bears or Panthers in our schedule, I doubt very much that their numbers would be better than ours.

You can stop saying that the NFC is a weak conference. This is 2005, that's just not true, no matter how much you want it to be. Try to keep up with the times.

 

[jspchief]

We've played 4 games and 3 teams (played philly twice)that have higher rated passing offenses than you. They had 160, 131, 218, and 183 yards against us in the air. only one got more than 200 against us and that was in the second game of the year. We don't give up alot of yards. Seriously you better pray that Gonzo has a great game or more than likely Drew has a horrible on....well average one in turnovers for him. But your not going to move the ball aginst us that much. Hope you guys create a lot fo turnovers on our end of the field. No one has beat us by more than 7 all year.

I'm not sure what you're basing your ratings on, but I will say the Chiefs have suffered in the passing game when Roaf and Welbourne have been out.

Our passing game doesn't struggle because of good coverage, it struggles because of pressure. With Roaf and Welbourne in, we should be able to minimize pressure. If you blitz, you better get there, because Green will shred blitzes.

The only other offense you guys have faced that has comparable weapons is San Diego. KC doesn't have to run, and they don't have to pass. They take what's there. If that means Gonzo gets 100+ yards receiving, so be it.

It will definately be an interesting game. It should seperate the wheat from the chaff.

 

[brokeback]

The Colts only scored 13 on the Browns. Sometimes, great units have an off day. In regards to SF, that was early in the year, when we were still feeling the defense out, and a little hung over from the monday night embarassment in WSH. The defense had a bad half, rallied, and the offense won the game. Sometimes great units struggle. It happens. What great defenses do, though, is hold offenses like Seattle and NY well below their scoring output for the season.Like I said, if you put the Bears or Panthers in our schedule, I doubt very much that their numbers would be better than ours.

You can stop saying that the NFC is a weak conference. This is 2005, that's just not true, no matter how much you want it to be. Try to keep up with the times.

That may be the record for most excuses for a poor defensive performance I've ever heard in a single post. Kudos.

As far as the AFC vs NFC, why don't you let us know what the head to head record is in interconference games this year. It'll be fun. It won't help your argument, though.

 

[kojak]

Actually the defense gave up 24 points to SF. 7 of there points came from a Bledsoe interception and TD.

 

[jspchief]

7 of there points came from a Bledsoe interception and TD.

That seems to be the theme around here. Has Bledsoe just been killing you guys with turnovers?

 

[kojak]

That seems to be the theme around here. Has Bledsoe just been killing you guys with turnovers?

He has been lately

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

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