Why do many on this board want Kellen Moore fired?

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Predictable playcalling that is masked by a talented offense. Route tree sucks too. Takes too long to develop, and or again is highly predictable. No rub routes, nothing. Limited motion usage as well. Usually, it's just a tell for a run play. Don't even get me started on the jet sweeps at useless times.

yea, I used to hear the same garbage about Dez and his horrible route tree.....

i wish we were less predictable... we might have a top 5 offense if we had a better coach.
 

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Situational play calling is the number one problem with Moore. Very rarely does he take advantage of what the defense is giving him. He has no feel for what play to call at critical points in the game.

The other huge problem is the fact that none of his trick plays work. Any time we try a reverse, flea flicker or whatever ends in abject failure or loss of yards. When is the last time the offense ran a successful screen? This is very telling.

Both of these facts are the reason the Cowboys will flounder in the playoffs.

Moore has talent. But he definitely needs to learn on the job somewhere else before he is givin the keys to an NFL offense.

are you serious? holy ****...... this offense is 3rd in the NFL in points scored and 5 of those games was with a back up qb..... you are nuts.
 

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KM is pretty bad.
He has to be one of the most ineffective offensive play callers, in situational and dire situations, I have ever seen. If we had a much worse QB, he would be more exposed than he is.

Dak overcomes mistakes from his play calling goof-ups. I really wish MM would be the play caller but I personally believe MM is in Dak's ear and has helped developed Dak into an even smarter QB, by helping to create effective audible packages, from KM's situational blunders. Remember, MM's specialty is offense and QB development. Go watch film and you'll see what I mean. But, the main reason I want him gone because his situational football play calling is atrocious.

Oh, and our offensive line was pretty bad. Pass blocking is still a problem, we need to find a way to help Dak and not just leave it on his shoulders. (Cough, KM) Glad we have a QB that can scramble and make plays. How some of you hate our QB still baffles me. He hides a lot of imperfections on our offense.

Side Note: I love 77, but he doesn't look comfortable at right tackle.
 
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name me a team that is more balanced than the Dallas Cowboys?

I said stay balanced, he gets into ruts at times and like I said gets cute with double reverses and other crap that they don't need and it kills too many drives. They were moving the ball up and down the field vs the Jags then out of nowhere he tries a trick play that loses them 12 yards.
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
Kellen makes strange decisions sometimes. The Cowboys were eating Jacksonville alive in the first half then decides to call an option play for 3rd and short for Dak. Some games he relies on the pass to much. Some games he will run the ball to much. His play calls leave lots to be desired.
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
I would rather move on from Moore after the season. time for a new offense and a more experienced OC
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
You know how for the last 4-5 weeks....the announcers have been calling our plays?...especially runs. If the TV announcers up in the both know our formations and vocal signals....the defense does too.

So that's why.


PS...great you cherry picked the Eagles game. Man.... T.Y. bailed the ship out of us! It was a good tough game. What about couple games before? Squeak by some terrible teams....that allegedly "wanted their super bowl against us".
 

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Kellen makes strange decisions sometimes. The Cowboys were eating Jacksonville alive in the first half then decides to call an option play for 3rd and short for Dak. Some games he relies on the pass to much. Some games he will run the ball to much. His play calls leave lots to be desired.
Yes...this game. Baffling.
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
Starting in 2015, a new addition to the scapegoat list has been the OC whenever things don't go just right.

We didn't hear it that much in the 40 years prior to then. Maybe occasionally, but nothing like it has been.

It's a certain group that is loudest about Kellen, or maybe the WRs, or maybe the oline......etc

This is just how it is.....
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
How do you establish a lead but then don't take the time to establish the run. We've loss two games this year where we had the lead, but still couldn't run the clock out?

Moore has historically put together play seats that did not stretch the defense vertically all horizontally.

He's a Jekyll and Hyde play caller. Even though he's doing a better job here lately, he's still has not earned my trust.

We'll see how he does in the playoffs. We'll sink or swim with him.
 

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Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.
Most of the time it's not the plays that he's calling, it the way the team is executing them. More times than not these plays that look like they never should have been called are too slow in developing and everyone immediately attacks Moore for calling them, when in fact if they were run like they're run-in practice they probably end up working fine.
 

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I'd like to see him be a bit more traditional, more play action, less of the bizarre trick plays at the wrong time, etc.
Totally agree……far too many times where he called some misdirection play for a loss, running Zeke slow butt on sweeps and stretch plays only to take a loss. Agree with more play action…..our backs are good enough where the defense need to respect the threat. I bet if we had Kyle Shanahan coachin our offense we would be even better. He needs to be better at adjustments too. He’s not terrible at all, but I’m worried his lack of adjustments and dumb trickery plays will get us best in the playoffs against a team like San Fran.
 

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It better not be Father Merrin. My neck still hurts from the time we last met. :(

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Most of the time it's not the plays that he's calling, it the way the team is executing them. More times than not these plays that look like they never should have been called are too slow in developing and everyone immediately attacks Moore for calling them, when in fact if they were run like they're run-in practice they probably end up working fine.
Sometimes and at the wrong times.
 

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yea, I used to hear the same garbage about Dez and his horrible route tree.....

i wish we were less predictable... we might have a top 5 offense if we had a better coach.
At the very least, one that succeeds past the first or second round of the playoffs.
 

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How do you establish a lead but then don't take the time to establish the run. We've loss two games this year where we had the lead, but still couldn't run the clock out?

Moore has historically put together play seats that did not stretch the defense vertically all horizontally.

He's a Jekyll and Hyde play caller. Even though he's doing a better job here lately, he's still has not earned my trust.

We'll see how he does in the playoffs. We'll sink or swim with him.

I won't trust him until he comes out and admits that "Yards are yards" was a stupid thing to say and he was wrong. Oh and he goes into a game knowing which of the opposing DBs can't cover CeeDee Lamb and we hit him for 100 yards and a couple of touchdowns in the first quarter and then when we are leading by two scores late in the game, he KEEPS RUNNING THE DAMN BALL!!!!
 

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Same with Garrett. This team is achieving what it is "in spite" of KM. How about that trick play that killed us a couple of days ago? Desperate teams call trick plays. We just need to line up and play football. His trick plays rarely work and they usually end up in a loss in yardage.
I ordinarily hate his trick plays because they’re telegraphed. But I didn’t have an issue with the flea-flicker Saturday. Gallup was wide open for a TD. The play failed, not because Dak was late getting the ball or late on recognition. The defender just made an outstanding play; he closed on Dak like he was shot out of a cannon.

Just a guess, but I think that play was set up as an option for Dak to run it or pass it if Gallup wasn’t covered. He didn’t have a chance to do either. Sometimes the other team simply makes a very good play. They did in this case with recognition and a very good tackle.
 
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