Why do you hate Henson?

[Charles]

It's a similar concept. Valid point.

The fact of the matter though Charles is that the poster I was addressing twice states unequivocably that Henson is not Hutch's equal.

So let's drop the dance and get right to the point. Do you agree with this assertion or are you just looking for an argument and know I will likely oblige?

I'd like to know now so that I know whether I'm laughing myself silly or seriously in a pertinent discussion in this debate.

Well I don't know.

They both have (had in Hutchinson case) Pros and Cons, after 3 seasons in NFL and 1 in NFLE Chad wasn't able to put it all together.......the jury is still out on Henson.

It doesn't really matter what Henson does better or worse, all that matters is if he's able to get it all together. It appears the arrow is pointing up, thats a good sign.

My measuring stick is based on winning and so far Chad won more games for the Cowboys than Henson has started.

 

[Juke99]

Well I don't know.

They both have (had in Hutchinson case) Pros and Cons, after 3 seasons in NFL and 1 in NFLE Chad wasn't able to put it all together.......the jury is still out on Henson.

It doesn't really matter what Henson does better or worse, all that matters is if he's able to get it all together. It appears the arrow is pointing up, thats a good sign.

My measuring stick is based on winning and so far Chad won more games for the Cowboys than Henson has started.

Ah, c'mon. You ignore the fact that while winning two, Chad lost seven?

GeeezLouise...talk about trying to force numbers to fit a discussion.

 

[superpunk]

My measuring stick is based on winning and so far Chad won more games for the Cowboys than Henson has started.

Michael Olowokandi has won more games for the Celtics than Lenny Bias ever did.



I just figured while we we're comparing apples to oranges......

 

[Charles]

Ah, c'mon. You ignore the fact that while winning two, Chad lost seven?

GeeezLouise...talk about trying to force numbers to fit a discussion.

Sorry........that MY measuring stick:

I don't get into the beauty pageant. I'll leave that to other folks.

oops I touched a nerve again

 

[Charles]

Michael Olowokandi has won more games for the Celtics than Lenny Bias ever did.



I just figured while we we're comparing apples to oranges......

Yep.........we all know Len Bias had his opportunity to play in the NBA like Henson did ( still does) in the NFL.

Try again.

 

[superpunk]

Yep.........we all know Len Bias had his opportunity to play in the NBA like Henson did ( still does) in the NFL.

Try again.

Can't handle a little hyperbole to stress how idiotic your "measuring stick" is?

How about this? Drew Bledsoe has more career wins than Tom Brady.

Generally, when rational people are performing analytical comparisons, they try to use some sort of "control", that equalizes all factors. Unlike you, who takes two test subjects, isolates one single test criteria, but ignores the fact that the sum values are completely different. (i.e. Chad Hutchinson has started 9 times MORE games than Drew Henson, therefore he has nine times the chances to win that Henson had.)

But viewing it "rationally" wouldn't fit your lame schtick, would it?

 

[Hostile]

Well I don't know.

Shock and awe.

:wink2:

They both have (had in Hutchinson case) Pros and Cons, after 3 seasons in NFL and 1 in NFLE Chad wasn't able to put it all together.......the jury is still out on Henson.

Meaning what? Not getting your point here. Is there one?

It doesn't really matter what Henson does better or worse, all that matters is if he's able to get it all together. It appears the arrow is pointing up, thats a good sign.

Does this mean you agree with kartr or don't? I asked a pretty simple question. I sort of expected the dance around after 3 years of seeing how much you like it, but I also expected an answer.

My measuring stick is based on winning and so far Chad won more games for the Cowboys than Henson has started.

No offense meant, but that is just about the silliest thing I've ever heard out of you.

Q won more games as a Cowboys QB than Bledsoe has. That means he's a better QB in your eyes?

That's essentially what you're saying because that is "your measuring stick."

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

The Henstud supporters need to realize that as long as Bledsoe is on this roster, no other QB is going to starting unless we clinch homefield throughout with a game or two left.

Romo will likely see time during the 2nd half of games this season when Bledsoe and other starters on offense are pulled when we have comfortable leads against lesser opponents.

 

[ndanger]

His obsession with German's smoking ciggarettes annoys me. ..........Why would anyone hate this kid?????

 

[Hostile]

The Henstud supporters need to realize that as long as Bledsoe is on this roster, no other QB is going to starting unless we clinch homefield throughout with a game or two left.

Romo will likely see time during the 2nd half of games this season when Bledsoe and other starters on offense are pulled when we have comfortable leads against lesser opponents.

You need to realize that breakfast is over and we don't need syrup for lunch.

And please don't call him Henstud. It wasn't funny with Bledsoe, it won't be funny with Henson. It's just annoying.

 

[Juke99]

The Henstud supporters need to realize that as long as Bledsoe is on this roster, no other QB is going to starting unless we clinch homefield throughout with a game or two left.

Romo will likely see time during the 2nd half of games this season when Bledsoe and other starters on offense are pulled when we have comfortable leads against lesser opponents.

I miss Nors.

That's sayin' alot.

At least he was original. This is NorsLite...this is imitation...Norsahide...

 

[Hostile]

Sorry........that MY measuring stick:

I don't get into the beauty pageant. I'll leave that to other folks.

oops I touched a nerve again

Just a wild guess, you weren't allowed the sharp scissors in school.

 

[superpunk]

It's just annoying.

You can take the boy out of the annoying, but you can't take the annoying out of the boy...

or something like that.

 

[Charles]

Can't handle a little hyperbole to stress how idiotic your "measuring stick" is?

How about this? Drew Bledsoe has more career wins than Tom Brady.

Generally, when rational people are performing analytical comparisons, they try to use some sort of "control", that equalizes all factors. Unlike you, who takes two test subjects, isolates one single test criteria, but ignores the fact that the sum values are completely different. (i.e. Chad Hutchinson has started 9 times MORE games than Drew Henson, therefore he has nine times the chances to win that Henson had.)

But viewing it "rationally" wouldn't fit your lame schtick, would it?

Did you miss the part where I said I don't know who is better because the jury is still out on Henson:laugh2:

I guess it ruffled your feathers that Chad has won more games in the NFL that Henson has started. You even brought up a deceased player that never played in the Pros to give Henson's regression on a real NFL roster some weight.

Whose fault if that?..........

Chad has faced the real bullets 8 more times than Henson did. He was able to be part of 2 wins........and any sensible Cowboy fan would know that those 7 loses don't all fall squarely on the shoulder of Chad. He was handled much worse that Henson could ever imagine and was still able to be part of 2 wins, unlike Henson who almost gave the game away in his only start before Parcells came to his senses and pulled the plug, because it took Lovie Smith 2 series to realize that Henson couldn't read a defense.

We aren't talking about 2 established QBs in Bledsoe and Brady.......whose progression have be as close to normal as it gets, we're talking about 2 unproven QBs....one who has flamed out the league and another who regressed his way onto a NFLE roster...........Just win Henson!!!

 

[acheman]

"The Henstud supporters need to realize that as long as Bledsoe is on this roster, no other QB is going to starting unless we clinch homefield throughout with a game or two left. "


How is this for a prediction? Bledsoe will be replaced by either Romo or Henson before this season is over, and it will have nothing to do with injury/or clinching a playoff spot/ or having a comfortable lead late in games. Put me on record as saying this, and I AM NOT JOKING.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Wow, Charles. Analogies really aren't your strong point, are they?

 

[Charles]

Shock and awe.

:wink2:

Meaning what? Not getting your point here. Is there one?

Does this mean you agree with kartr or don't? I asked a pretty simple question. I sort of expected the dance around after 3 years of seeing how much you like it, but I also expected an answer.

No offense meant, but that is just about the silliest thing I've ever heard out of you.

Q won more games as a Cowboys QB than Bledsoe has. That means he's a better QB in your eyes?

That's essentially what you're saying because that is "your measuring stick."

Sorry you could fiigure it out. I guess I don't know isn't considered an answer

Quincy Carter and Drew Bledsoe aren't on the same level. Drew is an established NFL QB, Quincy Carter was a QB trying to get over the hump like Chad and Henson.

Bledsoe has proven he can win........no it's time to prove he can win it all.

Henson has proven (so far) he can't even earn playing time on a NFL roster let alone win an NFL game. Henson has to show that his abilities can translate into helping a team win football games, Chad did atleast twice before flaming out..........

Like superpunk stated Apples and oranges

 

[superpunk]

Did you miss the part where I said I don't know who is better because the jury is still out on Henson

No, you said that the jury was still out on whether or not Henson could put it together.

Your pile of junk "measuring stick" statement clearly states that you believe Chad is a better QB than Henson, based on the fact that he has won more games than Henson has started, hence my Lenny Bias comparison.

Bias started no games, so it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to have won more games for the Celtics than Michael Olowokandi.

I'm gonna take this next part slow for ya....

Henson has started one game.

Hutchinson won two games.

It is a physical IMPOSSIBILITY for Henson to have won more, or started more than Hutchinson.

Never mind the fact that you ignore every other factor, such as other options for the Boys at QB, the head coach, etc.

unlike Henson who almost gave the game away in his only start before Parcells came to his senses and pulled the plug, because it took Lovie Smith 2 series to realize that Henson couldn't read a defense.

OMG. Stop the presses. A guy away from football for years struglled in his first real action back!!!!! The universe is crumbling around me!

Have fun. I'm done talking sense to the senseless.

 

[Hostile]

Sorry you could fiigure it out. I guess I don't know isn't considered an answer

You don't know whether you agree with a poster or not? Then who does know?

Quincy Carter and Drew Bledsoe aren't on the same level. Drew is an established NFL QB, Quincy Carter was a QB trying to get over the hump like Chad and Henson.

This is why you catch grief Charles. Spin control like this BS. In your mind Hutch and Henson are analogous. But no other situation is.

It is virtually impossible to discuss anything with you because of this habit. Don't make a point if you don't want it challenged.

Your measuring stick analogy is stupid. Period. If that insults you I'll play a fiddle and shed a tear.

Bledsoe has proven he can win........no it's time to prove he can win it all.

Not part of the discussion, could care less but don't know how.

Henson has proven (so far) he can't even earn playing time on a NFL roster let alone win an NFL game. Henson has to show that his abilities can translate into helping a team win football games, Chad did atleast twice before flaming out..........

As pointed out he's already won an NFL game and has 2 years of earning a spot on an NFL roster.

 

[Charles]

No, you said that the jury was still out on whether or not Henson could put it together.

Thats exactly why I don't know..........:laugh2:

Your pile of junk "measuring stick" statement clearly states that you believe Chad is a better QB than Henson, based on the fact that he has won more games than Henson has started, hence my Lenny Bias comparison.

Just stating facts, you can place it in any context..........

Bias started no games, so it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to have won more games for the Celtics than Michael Olowokandi.

But Henson has started ONE and has been given the opportunity to earn more starts. Why did you even bring up Bias? (he never got the chance )

I'm gonna take this next part slow for ya....

Henson has started one game.

Because he wasn't good enough or he wasn't the best option.Tough luck.......the jury is still out though

Hutchinson won two games.

Yep, he earned the back-up job and put himself in a position to start 9 games.

It is a physical IMPOSSIBILITY for Henson to have won more, or started more than Hutchinson.

And whose fault is that. Henson wasn't good enough to play when our 90 year Old QB's arm went dead late in the season. He didn't do anything in practice to make the Cowboys organization think he's ready.

Never mind the fact that you ignore every other factor, such as other options for the Boys at QB, the head coach, etc.

I didn't ignore the fact. The Cowboys played rookies even at the detriment of the team late last season. They benched/reduced playing time a Pro Bowl DT (Glover) and a good veteran in Ellis. Henson made his own bed.

OMG. Stop the presses. A guy away from football for years struglled in his first real action back!!!!! The universe is crumbling around me!

Once again he made his own bed.............:laugh2:

Have fun. I'm done talking sense to the senseless.

bye