Why does Rod seem to hate FA DT's?

[waldoputty]

DLaw and Tapper are not dead. We will see how much they can contribute. Waving your hands, jumping up and down screaming they are going to fail does not make it so.

Jaylon's nerve is already firing and he has been able to flex his peroneal for some time now. The season doesn't start for 6 months.

We're having a draft that is loaded with DE and DBs in about 6 weeks in case you forgot.

there is no doubt Mcclay is good at finding rotation players from the scrap heap.
he proved it again with paea - 6 sacks as a DT last time he played in a 4-3 in 2014.
however, we have enough rotation players on the DL.

we now have 7 players that are rotation quality or slightly better: dlaw, paea, tcrawford, mayowa, collins, thornton and irving.
what we need is a war daddy - and you need to pay for that in one way or another.

 

[visionary]

Yep, I bet seeing you operate in real life would be a eye-opener.

No answer on the substance so you choose to get personal

Sad

 

[visionary]

DLaw and Tapper are not dead. We will see how much they can contribute. Waving your hands, jumping up and down screaming they are going to fail does not make it so.

Jaylon's nerve is already firing and he has been able to flex his peroneal for some time now. The season doesn't start for 6 months.

We're having a draft that is loaded with DE and DBs in about 6 weeks in case you forgot.

Is that you Dr Google?
Please tell us again how Jaylon was going to play in 2016 based in your vast medical expertise

 

[LocimusPrime]

Rod liked Sapp and Simeon Rice. They played a lot of snaps for him. He didn't use the pass rush via " waves of fresh linemen" back then. But then again he had lots of war daddies, and when you have war daddies they usually don't sit on the bench.

 

[fishspill]

Rod needs to tell Jerry to get him some talent on the Dline. It would be crazy to waste Daks career like we wasted Romos. The last pass rusher we had was DWare. Let that sink in.

It's not that he isn't trying to get a pass rusher, but much like trying to build an OL for Tony earlier in his career they're not doing well. Let's hope they get it together.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

No answer on the substance so you choose to get personal

Sad

When you can offer some substance to your take... then it will be worth responding too.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

there is no doubt Mcclay is good at finding rotation players from the scrap heap.
he proved it again with paea - 6 sacks as a DT last time he played in a 4-3 in 2014.
however, we have enough rotation players on the DL.

we now have 7 players that are rotation quality or slightly better: dlaw, paea, tcrawford, mayowa, collins, thornton and irving.
what we need is a war daddy - and you need to pay for that in one way or another.

Perry and Sheard are not war daddies. I'd rather roll with Willis or Charlton at less than a third of the price. Irving continues to improve and becomes consistent and he will be a 'war daddy.'

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Is that you Dr Google?
Please tell us again how Jaylon was going to play in 2016 based in your vast medical expertise

Ad hominem is the solace of one with nothing of worth to say. Protip: I used google scholar to look up the studies. Don't be upset because I can understand medical studies and can convey their content in simpler terms.

And to think you were just complaining:

No answer on the substance so you choose to get personal

Sad

You see it too.

I said the earliest he would be ready would be July. I also said it was possible he never recovered. Waving your hands at one end of the spectrum of possible outcomes is a poor strawman.

Nonetheless, Breer and George have reported that his nerve is firing and he can pick up his foot. There is video where you can watch him do it on his twitter. Deal with it.

 

[T-RO]

Word around the camp fire is he has shied away from first round war Daddies that are DTs, take that with a grain of salt.

Word around the camp fire is that DTs don't generally impact the sport as much as other positions...so they generally don't get drafted in the first round.

That's a league-wide shift in philosophy...hardly unique to Rod M.

 

[waldoputty]

Perry and Sheard are not war daddies. I'd rather roll with Willis or Charlton at less than a third of the price. Irving continues to improve and becomes consistent and he will be a 'war daddy.'

our chance of drafting a better daddy would be substantially improved if we could trade up.
with all the needs, they may be unwilling to do that.

we now have needs at de, cb, rt and ss.
assuming ss can wait till after the 3rd round, you still have de, rt and cb.

they darn well knew about Free retiring.
what they should have one was signed someone like the Vikings RT - 6M AAV and structured for 5M cap impact in year 1 (it could have been 1.2M cap impact if they made the roster bonus a signing bonus).

it would also have been much more conservative to sign a better cb.
we have plenty of cap space to do it.

just like how they put wr needs to bed.
they could have done so with cb.

you can argue perhaps carr or mo comes back in a cheap contract hopefully.
for the combine $, you could have signed a better cb.

 

[waldoputty]

Rod liked Sapp and Simeon Rice. They played a lot of snaps for him. He didn't use the pass rush via " waves of fresh linemen" back then. But then again he had lots of war daddies, and when you have war daddies they usually don't sit on the bench.

and mcfarland
we can only dream

opponents to cowboys DL - who is the daddy
cowboys DL - you are
so sad

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

our chance of drafting a better daddy would be substantially improved if we could trade up.
with all the needs, they may be unwilling to do that.

we now have needs at de, cb, rt and ss.
assuming ss can wait till after the 3rd round, you still have de, rt and cb.

they darn well knew about Free retiring.
what they should have one was signed someone like the Vikings RT - 6M AAV and structured for 5M cap impact in year 1 (it could have been 1.2M cap impact if they made the roster bonus a signing bonus).

it would also have been much more conservative to sign a better cb.
we have plenty of cap space to do it.

just like how they put wr needs to bed.
they could have done so with cb.

you can argue perhaps carr or mo comes back in a cheap contract hopefully.
for the combine $, you could have signed a better cb.

The cost to trade up to the top 5 to get one of the 2 elite rushers is not worth it in a draft this deep.

FA is not over but we are not making a splash signing other than Martin this year. Just come to terms with it and stop posting thread after thread telling is that we can if we want to.

Further until you start considering the actual FA approach we have used like we discussed before don't be so certain of what we can or cannot do. You should be adding the annual Steve-o specials to your projections.

It would not have been more conservative to pay one the top FA corners $13m. That is nothing like how we put the WR position to bed. We payed TWill a third of that.

Mo and Carr are unlikely to get much more than Carroll. You add those two together and you don't have depth and you don't even have Amukamara's money much less Gilmore money.

 

[haleyrules]

there is no doubt Mcclay is good at finding rotation players from the scrap heap.
he proved it again with paea - 6 sacks as a DT last time he played in a 4-3 in 2014.
however, we have enough rotation players on the DL.

we now have 7 players that are rotation quality or slightly better: dlaw, paea, tcrawford, mayowa, collins, thornton and irving.
what we need is a war daddy - and you need to pay for that in one way or another.

Yep. How about Romo and Bryant to Houston for either Clowny or Watt?? Nothing for nothing.

 

[T-RO]

But let's be honest....at one point he had Ware, Spencer and Hatcher all on the line and it didn't seem like he got the best out of that line though he did Hatcher that one year.

This is far from honest....it's balderpoop....

-Hatcher enjoyed by far his best season under Marinelli with 11 sacks.

-Spencer missed the entire 2013 season with bad knee injury...never did anything for anyone after that.

 

[xwalker]

Yeah, Marinelli just doesn't understand football like you do.

 

[waldoputty]

Yep. How about Romo and Bryant to Houston for either Clowny or Watt?? Nothing for nothing.

dont know enough about Clowney and Watt (injury)
if Clowney is a daddy, then Romo and Bryant would be perfectly reasonable.

 

[haleyrules]

dont know enough about Clowney and Watt (injury)
if Clowney is a daddy, then Romo and Bryant would be perfectly reasonable.

Yes. Very reasonable if one or the other is healthy. Good for both clubs...especially Dallas.

 

[T-RO]

Rod liked Sapp and Simeon Rice. They played a lot of snaps for him. He didn't use the pass rush via " waves of fresh linemen" back then. But then again he had lots of war daddies, and when you have war daddies they usually don't sit on the bench.

Exactly. The Marinelli critics in this thread can only make stuff up that never even happened. That's all they got.

It's almost like watching the media poop their pants these days.

 

[waldoputty]

The cost to trade up to the top 5 to get one of the 2 elite rushers is not worth it in a draft this deep.

FA is not over but we are not making a splash signing other than Martin this year. Just come to terms with it and stop posting thread after thread telling is that we can if we want to.

Further until you start considering the actual FA approach we have used like we discussed before don't be so certain of what we can or cannot do. You should be adding the annual Steve-o specials to your projections.

It would not have been more conservative to pay one the top FA corners $13m. That is nothing like how we put the WR position to bed. We payed TWill a third of that.

Mo and Carr are unlikely to get much more than Carroll. You add those two together and you don't have depth and you don't even have Amukamara's money much less Gilmore money.

i am not assuming a trade up to the top 5.
i am only talking about a trade up to getting something in the mid 1st.

i have assumed the FO is flexible and adaptable like new england.
not stuck in their ways.
may be i gave them too much credit

i have my own reasons for posting the model projections.
i will definitely be building something that compares what happened and what could have happened.

in 2018, after draft picks, there is likely inadequtae roster space for many if any steve-o specials.
they were so good with filling the roster up with below average players that it may be full.

for top cbs, that is 13m aav with a much lower 1st year cap impact.
i have said a million times that cap in 2018-2021 is plentiful.
2017 simply needed a little work to restructure the space from the plentiful years.

i would have preferred Carr over Carroll for the same $.

prince a's contract was $7m one year only.
you could have bought the year needed to reduce the burden on the 2017 draft.
or you could have offered prince a multi-year to put the issue to bed for a few years.

 

[waldoputty]

Yes. Very reasonable if one or the other is healthy. Good for both clubs...especially Dallas.

but texans dont even need a wr, do they?