Why does the offense look so much different with another QB?

[CowboyFrog]

Wash has the 31st ranked rush defense...but by all means twist it till it pops for whatever makes you feel good....DQ's defense cant stop the run shocker...

 

[Coogiguy03]

CALLING ALL MODS please allow me to change this thread to SCHEMATICALLY this offense looks different sheesh (i'm taking a beat down these days!) lol

 

[chagus]

Maybe the team is playing better for Rush?

 

[RonnieT24]

you're again putting words in my mouth lol "this" seems better, not what you're trying to pin on me as saying, so I don't get why you're doing this. Once again, when's the last time we've seen Dak line up outside of the shot gun formation, with Rush we're somehow using the pistol, I'd love to see Dak in a formation like this or something else. I guess it's what makes him more comfortable, doesn't make anyone better than the other, I just like seeing us change it up, and actually make the defense think

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Coogiguy03 said:
Of course it's two different players, but Dak was known for having more athletic abilities than Rush, yet every game we've seen rush in this year, he's been in the pistol??

I'm not trying to make this into a diss Dak thread, I just think there's elements to this offense that seem to work better with Rush in there. The game plan seems much better, the plays seem better. I'm not sure why we don't do these kinds of things with Dak. Please give me your thoughts"

You didn't type the words I saw? Someone hack your account? Anyway I will go no further on the fact that you are denying your own statements even though they are right there in black and white and will simply focus on the real discussion. As I stated the coaches are doing what makes Rush more comfortable. That frankly is just smart coaching. They know he can't do what Dak does so they are not asking him to. Again, I am an old running back. I LIKE more running, more I-formation, more under center smashmouth type football. I think delay handoffs out of shotgun is about the stupidest thing you can do in the run game. But that offense scores a lot fewer points than the high flying attack. So you need a lights out defense and some special teams help to win that way. I would love for them to call the game this way with Dak at the helm but McCarthy doesn't want to and for whatever reason the defense refuses to show up sometimes when Dak is at QB. Maybe they're mad about his contract?

 

[Jarv]

It is different. More under center, more of the Shanahan/Kubiak type looks where everything flows one direction and they run play action bootleg the other way to the TE or WR dragging across that always seems to work.

I still think Dak gets to call the show, and he wants to run the same shotgun stops/curls that he's been comfortable with since the Garrett days.

Maybe Dak running his own show is whaseems to get CD so pissed at him at times.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Maybe Dak running his own show is whaseems to get CD so pissed at him at times.

Seriously, one thing I think Dak really struggled with this year was forcing the ball to CeeDee (and even Ferguson sometimes) too much. I know that's a fine line to walk, getting the ball to your best WR as much as you can without forcing it to him, but I don't think he's done well at that. Too often he forced it when CeeDee wasn't even close to open.

One thing about Rush is he seems to do a better job of just reading the play out and going to the open man.

 

[FVSTONE]

Of course it's two different players, but Dak was known for having more athletic abilities than Rush, yet every game we've seen rush in this year, he's been in the pistol??

I'm not trying to make this into a diss Dak thread, I just think there's elements to this offense that seem to work better with Rush in there. The game plan seems much better, the plays seem better. I'm not sure why we don't do these kinds of things with Dak. Please give me your thoughts

Rush's the majority of Rushes passes are on target, whereas Prescott's

Of course it's two different players, but Dak was known for having more athletic abilities than Rush, yet every game we've seen rush in this year, he's been in the pistol??

I'm not trying to make this into a diss Dak thread, I just think there's elements to this offense that seem to work better with Rush in there. The game plan seems much better, the plays seem better. I'm not sure why we don't do these kinds of things with Dak. Please give me your thoughts

There is so much pressure on a player to succeed when a 240 million dollar contract gets signed. Unfortunately for the Cowboys the player that they signed to that much money really hasn't played up to the level that even before he signed that huge contract. The player the Cowboys put most of their money on has struggled to carry his team for several seasons and his ridiculous stats have come by way of playing against both lousy teams and prevent defenses in the NFL. On the other hand, Rush who is being paid peanuts compared to a lot of other QBs and after a long layoff, finally bounced back to his old self and helped beat a respectable Washington team, which is something Prescott would have struggled to do had he been healthy.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Thankful for this post to point to when people claim that no one actually thinks Rush is better than Dak

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

no, you see what you want to see. if its not pooping on Dak 365x7x24x60x60, then you are a dak fan and you are defending him. you have Dak on your mind all the time.

you are obsessed by Dak, can't think eat, drink, sit, drive or do anything without thinking about Dak. he is living in your head rent free. you dread the day he is gone from the cowboys because your life will be meaningless. what are you going to do then? tick tock tick tock

LMAO !! The only one obsessed with Dak is you . You have his jersey , his PJ's , Dak Knee pads , his poster .........

Thanks for the laugh

 

[RonnieT24]

Thankful for this post to point to when people claim that no one actually thinks Rush is better than Dak

Well you knew it was coming the minute we won a game with Rush at QB. People gonna think what they wanna think and see what they wanna see. I was happy with the win. I don't need to make any proclamations about Rush being better than Dak to just be happy with the win. But some people need to take it further than that. What are ya gonna do?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Rush's the majority of Rushes passes are on target, whereas Prescott's

There is so much pressure on a player to succeed when a 240 million dollar contract gets signed. Unfortunately for the Cowboys the player that they signed to that much money really hasn't played up to the level that even before he signed that huge contract. The player the Cowboys put most of their money on has struggled to carry his team for several seasons and his ridiculous stats have come by way of playing against both lousy teams and prevent defenses in the NFL. On the other hand, Rush who is being paid peanuts compared to a lot of other QBs and after a long layoff, finally bounced back to his old self and helped beat a respectable Washington team, which is something Prescott would have struggled to do had he been healthy.

I could just see him in the red zone right now, INT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RonnieT24]

Rush's the majority of Rushes passes are on target, whereas Prescott's

There is so much pressure on a player to succeed when a 240 million dollar contract gets signed. Unfortunately for the Cowboys the player that they signed to that much money really hasn't played up to the level that even before he signed that huge contract. The player the Cowboys put most of their money on has struggled to carry his team for several seasons and his ridiculous stats have come by way of playing against both lousy teams and prevent defenses in the NFL. On the other hand, Rush who is being paid peanuts compared to a lot of other QBs and after a long layoff, finally bounced back to his old self and helped beat a respectable Washington team, which is something Prescott would have struggled to do had he been healthy.

Strangely enough the NFL tracks these things so your anecdotal evidence can be examined.

Here are the accuracy numbers for the Cowboys QBs.

QB A - Percentage of on target throws = 71.3%
QB B - Percentage of on target throws = 54.1%

Three guesses which number belongs to Dak and which one belongs to Rush.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LMAO !! The only one obsessed with Dak is you . You have his jersey , his PJ's , Dak Knee pads , his poster .........

Thanks for the laugh

actually, factually...there are three jerseys I own. Emmitt, Witten, Staubach and Aikman, looking to buy Irvin soon (although he upset me at the time with his off field antics) and Larry Allen (one of my all time favorite cowboys).
the rest of them can suck eggs. they are not getting the honor of me wearing those jerseys.

seemingly the Dak Hate Cult, has nothing better to do than post 19278 threads on Dak and dak alone...
I have seen many Kicker and RB threads be innundated with Dak hate crowd turning everything into a Dak conversation.

btw, Poopydog owns a Dak poster, he said he put it on his ceiling...go figure

 

[links18]

It still looks pretty bad.

 

[kskboys]

That’s not true either. Russ doesn’t care who he throws the ball to. He hasn’t built up a report yet. That’s why we are having more drops. Yes the ball comes out faster. But it’s not necessarily better because someone else can’t read a defense that’s foolish.

Ummmm, no it's not. It's actually a well accepted facts in NFL circles.

 

[kskboys]

You literally said "this seems better." I watch the games.. I cringe every time Rush has to make a throw outside the numbers because the ball takes so long to get there. He's fumbled 6 times in 3 starts. Fortunately he or a teammate have fallen on three of them but that is way too damn many fumbles in such a short span. Yes the offense looks different because the guy playing QB now can't do the same things the other guy could so he is not being asked to do them. There are plays they simply cannot and will not call with Rush at QB. And there are riskier throws he won't even attempt even if it is called. I'm happy we won the game. But we know what we are going to get out of Rush. About 20 points tops so we need the defense to be lights out and the special teams to kick it into high gear to have a chance to win. We got all three on Sunday. How many more games will we get 14 points on kick returns and have the defense smother the opposing offense except for one or two big plays? And a side question is what would our record be if we had gotten that in Dak's starts? By my count that extra 14 points would have beaten the Falcon, 49ers and Ravens. So we would have been 6-2 with Dak at the helm if we got this performance week in and week out from the defense and special teams.

I cringe because Rush doesn't have an NFL arm.

 

[FVSTONE]

Strangely enough the NFL tracks these things so your anecdotal evidence can be examined.

Here are the accuracy numbers for the Cowboys QBs.

QB A - Percentage of on target throws = 71.3%
QB B - Percentage of on target throws = 54.1%

Three guesses which number belongs to Dak and which one belongs to Rush.

QB - A has been taking 99% of the snaps for a couple of YEARS and we all know how he gets his numbers and that beating lousy teams like the Giants and Browns. So, the percentage for QB - B doesn't tell the real story. What was Rush's stats in the Washington game? He had a dam good game now that he has his bearings.

 

[Whirlwin]

Ummmm, no it's not. It's actually a well accepted facts in NFL circles.

No, it’s just a rumor that people like to use because they don’t like him. Prescott can’t read a difference, you know how ridiculous that is to even say it.

 

[kskboys]

Thankful for this post to point to when people claim that no one actually thinks Rush is better than Dak

Well you knew it was coming the minute we won a game with Rush at QB. People gonna think what they wanna think and see what they wanna see. I was happy with the win. I don't need to make any proclamations about Rush being better than Dak to just be happy with the win. But some people need to take it further than that. What are ya gonna do?

How do you guys not ignore those who claim that? Seriously, are they worth responding to? Rush is strictly an NFL backup, and anyone who doesn't understand that does not belong in an NFL football convo.

 

[kskboys]

No, it’s just a rumor that people like to use because they don’t like him. Prescott can’t read a difference, you know how ridiculous that is to even say it.

Yeah, but now you're bringing Dak spat into our convo.

Dak does not read a D near as well as Rush. That's not a rumor, as you're claiming. That is the ridiculous part, claiming false info just to attempt to back up what you desperately want to believe.

Rush reads a D as well as any QB in the NFL.