Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

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silvrandbluefan;5029006 said:
Why on earth would you pay Romo big money and tie up future money for another 8-8 season. I would just soon pay Orton to do that and save future money. I just don't see this team as anything but a 500 team for this year and possibly next year, quit paying these idiotic contracts that add up to a 500 team and look to the future and in my book (my opion) it doesn't start with Romo getting big dollars, play his contract out and look to the future with someone else, pay big now and skrew the future or keep it the way it is and try to get better in the future, again my half cent worth opion.

Because man, we are really close to going all the way with this team. Our window is closing because of the age of some of our vets like Romo, Witten, Ware, Austin, etc. If we put Orton out there we will end up 2-14. Romo gives us a great chance of getting to the super bowl. :)
 

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ufcrules1;5029080 said:
Yeah, players like Kaepernic, Wilson, RG3, Luck, etc... would only win 2 or 3 games here in Dallas. I'm not paying to watch those bozo's, . It's not Romo's fault he threw those 3 interceptions against Washington, his team sucks. If it wasn't for him we would have never had a chance to play against Washington for the division. Romo 4 life!

You point to 1 game I agree Romo outing was poor no excuses. However much is put on Romo and for this team to win and do so consistently it will happen because of overall team play Romo included but not by himself.

How many games would RGIII. Wilson or Kaepernic win? Who knows but one thing for sure they relied a lot on running the ball. Washington was 30th in passing attempts, SF was 31 in passing attempts and Seattle was 32 in passing attempts. They ran the ball they did not throw in on the back of the QB and say go out and pass us to victory. Football is a team game it is not just the QB and hell those 3 QB did less passing than any QB in the entire NFL. I'm sure Romo would love to be able to turn around and hand the ball off but right now Dallas can't do that.

This is not about giving Romo a free pass but when you start throwing out names based on post season give me a break those QB while they played important roles were not asked to carry the team
 

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dstone2962;5028675 said:
Tony Romo should not have leverage over the Cowboys. If he demands an outrageous number of years or dollars guaranteed, all Jerry has to point to is his amount of success in either getting to or maintaining a post season run. He certainly holds the short term cards but if I were Jerry I'd tell him to start wondering where a 33 year old quarterback with a terrible reputation around the league is going to get a long term deal anywhere else.

The problem with that is Romo could get another job in the league based on merit. Jerry couldn't.

Sorry. I have a hard time supporting the idea of our GM trying to hold anyone accountable for their performance.

Any criticism he could heap on Romo tracks right back to himself. He failed his QB. Not the other way around.
 

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Doomsday101;5029088 said:
You point to 1 game I agree Romo outing was poor no excuses.

No, I pointed to the BIGGEST game of the season. The one that decided if we win our division and if we make the playoffs, the one we needed the MOST. So not just 1 simple game out of 16. But with that said It wasn't Romo's fault we lost anyway, it is a TEAM game and they lost as a TEAM.
 

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ufcrules1;5029094 said:
No, I pointed to the BIGGEST game of the season. The one that decided if we win our division and if we make the playoffs, the one we needed the MOST. So not just 1 simple game out of 16. But with that said It wasn't Romo's fault we lost anyway, it is a TEAM game and they lost as a TEAM.

There were a lot of games before that had we lost would have ended the season. As for the skins game as I said I make no excuse for Romo or any player he had a bad game and it cost us. Was it Romo alone? no but he clearly had a bad game.
 

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I think we all take romo for granted. He makes bone headed mistakes multiple times but if we released him he'd probably be the top 5 highest paid qb in the league. Alot of writers and gms have come out and said that multiple times
 

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Doomsday101;5029095 said:
There were a lot of games before that had we lost would have ended the season. As for the skins game as I said I make no excuse for Romo or any player he had a bad game and it cost us. Was it Romo alone? no but he clearly had a bad game.

Hey, I'm not blaming Romo.. it is a TEAM game. I'm pretty sure as our team improves that we can count on Romo in high pressure games that decide a season or playoffs to make smart decisions with the football. Like throwing it away if the pressure is on him, taking a sack if necessary, not throwing off his back foot, making proper reads, etc. Just give him a decent line and a running game and we will go all the way.
 

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ufcrules1;5029100 said:
Hey, I'm not blaming Romo.. it is a TEAM game. I'm pretty sure as our team improves that we can count on Romo in high pressure games that decide a season or playoffs to make smart decisions with the football. Like throwing it away if the pressure is on him, taking a sack if necessary, not throwing off his back foot, making proper reads, etc. Just give him a decent line and a running game and we will go all the way.

I have no issue with the fact there are times he should just throw it away or take the sack. I also know there are many times he extends plays and Dallas benefits big time from that and in many cases would not have won games had it not been for Romo extending busted plays hitting the big plays down the field. In the end he is responsible for protecting the ball.

If Dallas can get to a point where we can run the ball with some consistency and effectiveness it will be a big help to this team and their chances of winning. We also have the other side of the ball that gave up a lot of points and got very few take aways.

Even Romo has said when he tries to do to much it normally cost the team.
 

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Doomsday101;5029104 said:
I have no issue with the fact there are times he should just throw it away or take the sack. I also know there are many times he extends plays and Dallas benefits big time from that and in many cases would not have won games had it not been for Romo extending busted plays hitting the big plays down the field. In the end he is responsible for protecting the ball.

If Dallas can get to a point where we can run the ball with some consistency and effectiveness it will be a big help to this team and their chances of winning. We also have the other side of the ball that gave up a lot of points and got very few take aways.

Even Romo has said when he tries to do to much it normally cost the team.

Completely agree with you. Romo throwing the ball a bunch is a recipe for disaster. He needs help with a solid running game so he can hand it off a lot more. And we also need help from our defense to keep us in games. Like the way they played against Cincy and Pitt last year. For the most part the team played well in those games including Romo and we pulled out wins. When a player or multiple players don't play smart football, anything can happen. We saw that in Washington.


The thing is, it seems like year in and year out that Jerry and Co keep thinking Romo can make all the throws without the boneheaded mistakes, they are emotionally attached and don't get him the proper help around him like coaches, Oline, RB's, etc. I have no doubt a coach like Jim Harbaugh would not be dumb enough to let Romo throw as much as he does. He would want to get him a solid Oline and RB's that could take the pressure off of him. He would also look to strengthen the defense and not keep worthless players around. Problem is a coach like that would never come here because of Jerry, and if they did, they would never stay (Parcells).
 

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I think people are settling for Romo. Using the argument look who was here before or who's available now. Or what we going do when he's gone. Lets look at some current history. SF had Smith, still drafted Kap 2nd round.. NE has Brady, still drafted Mallet 2nd round.. Seattle spends money on Flynn, Still drafted Wilson.. He's getting older.. Not getting any better.. How about at least trying to bring in someone in here to push him..
 

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Vinnie2u;5029134 said:
I think people are settling for Romo. Using the argument look who was here before or who's available now. Or what we going do when he's gone. Lets look at some current history. SF had Smith, still drafted Kap 2nd round.. NE has Brady, still drafted Mallet 2nd round.. Seattle spends money on Flynn, Still drafted Wilson.. He's getting older.. Not getting any better.. How about at least trying to bring in someone in here to push him..

SF drafted Kap *because* they had Alex Smith as their starter. That's a big difference.

But I'd be all for drafting a 2nd or 3rd round QB if one we really like is available. If for no other reason than it would be awesome to watch the board explode they way they did when Demarco Murray was selected.
 

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Vinnie2u;5029134 said:
I think people are settling for Romo. Using the argument look who was here before or who's available now. Or what we going do when he's gone. Lets look at some current history. SF had Smith, still drafted Kap 2nd round.. NE has Brady, still drafted Mallet 2nd round.. Seattle spends money on Flynn, Still drafted Wilson.. He's getting older.. Not getting any better.. How about at least trying to bring in someone in here to push him..
That's because most of fans who wants Romo gone has no plans or solutions for the replacement, just vague comment of get some one, as if franchise QBs are dime a dozen.
 

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ufcrules1;5029123 said:
Completely agree with you. Romo throwing the ball a bunch is a recipe for disaster. He needs help with a solid running game so he can hand it off a lot more. And we also need help from our defense to keep us in games. Like the way they played against Cincy and Pitt last year. For the most part the team played well in those games including Romo and we pulled out wins. When a player or multiple players don't play smart football, anything can happen. We saw that in Washington.


The thing is, it seems like year in and year out that Jerry and Co keep thinking Romo can make all the throws without the boneheaded mistakes, they are emotionally attached and don't get him the proper help around him like coaches, Oline, RB's, etc. I have no doubt a coach like Jim Harbaugh would not be dumb enough to let Romo throw as much as he does. He would want to get him a solid Oline and RB's that could take the pressure off of him. He would also look to strengthen the defense and not keep worthless players around. Problem is a coach like that would never come here because of Jerry, and if they did, they would never stay (Parcells).

Parcells was burnt out as he was in the other coaching jobs he left. His relationship according to him is very good with Jerry. You guys act as if you know what others think I go by what they say
 

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Doomsday101;5029142 said:
Parcells was burnt out as he was in the other coaching jobs he left. His relationship according to him is very good with Jerry. You guys act as if you know what others think I go by what they say

Why do you even bother with ufc? He has tunnel vision so bad against Romo that nothing you say is going to change his hatred.
 

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5Stars;5029146 said:
Why do you even bother with ufc? He has tunnel vision so bad against Romo that nothing you say is going to change his hatred.

I like banging my head aginst the wall? :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;5029160 said:
I like banging my head aginst the wall? :laugh2:

I wish you could bang his head against a wall!!
 

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Bowdown27;5029096 said:
I think we all take romo for granted. He makes bone headed mistakes multiple times but if we released him he'd probably be the top 5 highest paid qb in the league. Alot of writers and gms have come out and said that multiple times

And he would be a richer QB making the same rookie boneheaded mistakes he makes game in and game out.

While, maybe, just maybe in the meantime, Dallas takes it's bumps, but, ends up finding an OL and a QB that could take em to the next level.


Naw, forget it. :cool:
 

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Hook'em#11;5029183 said:
And he would be a richer QB making the same rookie boneheaded mistakes he makes game in and game out.

While, maybe, just maybe in the meantime, Dallas takes it's bumps, but, ends up finding an OL and a QB that could take em to the next level.


Naw, forget it. :cool:

Romo or any other outstanding QB that would play for the Cowboys upon Romo's departure should Dallas have the fortune of finding, are nothing more than Beer Goggles for Jerry's Cowboys.
 

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Hook'em#11;5029183 said:
And he would be a richer QB making the same rookie boneheaded mistakes he makes game in and game out.
The game in and game out part tells me you are over-the-top clueless.

He had a four or five game stretch just late in the season last year where possibly nobody in the league was playing better.
His worst mistakes don't happen every game or even close to that.
 

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Hoofbite;5028793 said:
Pretty sure they only own him like 11.5M.

The rest of his cap hit has come from all the previous years of reworking his contract.

If they tagged him, I don't think it would be quite $20M. Pretty sure the tag numbers are based off the top 5 base salaries and there's only 1 QB who has a base salary of $20M. Looks like it would be closer to 14M.
Yes, Romo is only getting paid 11.5M this season on his current contract. His cap hit is 16.8M due to previous bonus money that he has already received.

The Franchise tag for QBs is 14.6M in 2013. If it jumps to 18.5M in 2014, then Romo would get 30M total for 2013 and 2014.

If he is Franchised, there would be an additional 8M that would accelerate into the 2014 salary cap; however, that is money that he has already received.
 
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