Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

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Romo has plenty of leverage the Cowboys have nothing behind him at QB but an immobile journeymen who's already proven with 2 teams he's not the answer. This team hasn't prepared themselves for life without Romo and isn't built to compete with an unproductive, immobile QB who can't elude defenders and get outside the pocket. The Cowboys will be staring at 4-6 wins in 2013 with Kyle Orton or some other scrub on the street so if Jerry wants the Cowboys to compete next season and beyond he'll have to resign Romo.
 

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it seems like this same theme is recycled in so many ways, it is starting to get ridiculous here at CZ.

First of all, there is no QB available either by free agency or the draft that is even close to as good as Romo is. And many people, if they were being truthful and know a little about football, will tell you that Romo is a really really good QB with elite qualities to go with it. Second of all, there are reasons Romo struggles at times (considering that 12 of his 19 ints were in three games, 2 of those games were against NFC opponents who were hungry for a win and plain out outplayed the team. The other against Chicago who just embarrassed us plain and simple, outside of those games Romo was solely responsible for putting this team in a position to win in atleast 6 of them)

A qb is not the team, only a part of... think about it, The only guy on our oline even worth a grain of salt is tyrone Smith, thats it... the other guys completely suck. We had absolutely NO running game mostly due to such a poor oline, I mean so much no running game that Garrett gave up on it halfway if not sooner through the game. Guess who's shoulder he put the game on (without a running game to throw the opponents defense off)? Yep, Tony Romo...

Like I ask my son, name me 5 "superstars" on this team (and I use that term lightly because the talent level drops off quite a bit after them). That is about all you can name is about 5, everyone else is either fresh out of college and/or are projects or they just are not good.

So this same ol' same ol' Romo must go rehash thread should be merged with all the other threads and save us the trouble of reading them.
 

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Correction Orton has proven with 3 teams he's not the answer and he certainly won't be the answer in Dallas.
 

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Ok, fair question.

Tony Romo has leverage because he is on a 1 year deal with a high cap charge. Dallas would undoubtedly like to lower that cap charge ASAP. 5 or 6 mil freed up likely means 1 or 2 low end starters at positions of need (S, OL).

The second half of TR's leverage is his pay this year, 11 mil, combined with the cost to franchise him next year, 22m. He's basically guaranteed 33m over the next two seasons as is.

Dallas can obviously cut TR now and simply pay his pro-rated bonus. Frees up lots of cash but make TR the best and most coveted player available in free agency by a country mile. Teams would slobber over him. He will sale tickets, give the 10 or so teams badly in need of one, a QB1 and leave entire cities feeling they can win it all.

But, but, but he's not that good.... TR is undoubtedly a top 10 QB. That means he VASTLY improves about 15 teams and improves as many as 10 others... all at the most important position on the field.

He has tons of leverage. TR is going to get paid somewhere and get paid a lot. But Jerry will make sure that is in Dallas.
 

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jterrell;5029260 said:
Ok, fair question.

Tony Romo has leverage because he is on a 1 year deal with a high cap charge. Dallas would undoubtedly like to lower that cap charge ASAP. 5 or 6 mil freed up likely means 1 or 2 low end starters at positions of need (S, OL).

The second half of TR's leverage is his pay this year, 11 mil, combined with the cost to franchise him next year, 22m. He's basically guaranteed 33m over the next two seasons as is.

Dallas can obviously cut TR now and simply pay his pro-rated bonus. Frees up lots of cash but make TR the best and most coveted player available in free agency by a country mile. Teams would slobber over him. He will sale tickets, give the 10 or so teams badly in need of one, a QB1 and leave entire cities feeling they can win it all.

But, but, but he's not that good.... TR is undoubtedly a top 10 QB. That means he VASTLY improves about 15 teams and improves as many as 10 others... all at the most important position on the field.

He has tons of leverage. TR is going to get paid somewhere and get paid a lot. But Jerry will make sure that is in Dallas.

Yep and I have no doubt Romo will be taken care of in Dallas.
 

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Hook'em#11;5029183 said:
And he would be a richer QB making the same rookie boneheaded mistakes he makes game in and game out.

While, maybe, just maybe in the meantime, Dallas takes it's bumps, but, ends up finding an OL and a QB that could take em to the next level.


Naw, forget it. :cool:

And THIS is where the tire hits the road. Are you (we) prepared for years of "maybe...just maybe..."?

I just don't think any of us are ready to take our bumps yet. We may have to at some point, but not now, not when we have a chance with Romo and in a 3 point league all you need is a chance...
 

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DandyDon1722;5029274 said:
And THIS is where the tire hits the road. Are you (we) prepared for years of "maybe...just maybe..."?

I just don't think any of us are ready to take our bumps yet. We may have to at some point, but not now, not when we have a chance with Romo and in a 3 point league all you need is a chance...

None of us are who actually care; bandwagon fans are more than happy to rebuild. They'll just tune in again when we're winners.

Plus, this isn't the NBA... rebuilding is stupid in the NFL as long as there are 4 team divisions and league wide parity. People focus on the rare success stories but most teams that go into rebuilding mode don't ever come out...
 

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dstone2962;5028675 said:
Tony Romo should not have leverage over the Cowboys. If he demands an outrageous number of years or dollars guaranteed, all Jerry has to point to is his amount of success in either getting to or maintaining a post season run. He certainly holds the short term cards but if I were Jerry I'd tell him to start wondering where a 33 year old quarterback with a terrible reputation around the league is going to get a long term deal anywhere else.

Good post. Now duck because the truth is not always welcomed.

Ah tell you whut: The best time for Jerra to have dealt with Tony was 10 seconds after our "great" QB threw that interception to the Commanders defender in the last game of 2012.
Tony, then, would have settled for the league minimum.
Now, he thinks hisself as a top tier QB, and he really aint.

Top tier means getting into the playoffs, at least. I will now duck as well.:)
 

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GloryDaysRBack;5028688 said:
His biggest leverage, which hasn't even been mentioned yet, is this team has their backs against the wall in regards to the cap if they don't extend him.

Also true.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5029344 said:
Good post. Now duck because the truth is not always welcomed.

Ah tell you whut: The best time for Jerra to have dealt with Tony was 10 seconds after our "great" QB threw that interception to the Commanders defender in the last game of 2012.
Tony, then, would have settled for the league minimum.
Now, he thinks hisself as a top tier QB, and he really aint.

Top tier means getting into the playoffs, at least. I will now duck as well.:)

The main reason you should duck is not because of your opinion, but because you only watched one game all season. What kind of fan does that?
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5029344 said:
Good post. Now duck because the truth is not always welcomed.

Ah tell you whut: The best time for Jerra to have dealt with Tony was 10 seconds after our "great" QB threw that interception to the Commanders defender in the last game of 2012.
Tony, then, would have settled for the league minimum.
Now, he thinks hisself as a top tier QB, and he really aint.

Top tier means getting into the playoffs, at least. I will now duck as well.:)
Yuck yuck
That there's sum deeep thinkin'!
 

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RW Hitman;5029257 said:
it seems like this same theme is recycled in so many ways, it is starting to get ridiculous here at CZ.

First of all, there is no QB available either by free agency or the draft that is even close to as good as Romo is. And many people, if they were being truthful and know a little about football, will tell you that Romo is a really really good QB with elite qualities to go with it. Second of all, there are reasons Romo struggles at times (considering that 12 of his 19 ints were in three games, 2 of those games were against NFC opponents who were hungry for a win and plain out outplayed the team. The other against Chicago who just embarrassed us plain and simple, outside of those games Romo was solely responsible for putting this team in a position to win in atleast 6 of them)

A qb is not the team, only a part of... think about it, The only guy on our oline even worth a grain of salt is tyrone Smith, thats it... the other guys completely suck. We had absolutely NO running game mostly due to such a poor oline, I mean so much no running game that Garrett gave up on it halfway if not sooner through the game. Guess who's shoulder he put the game on (without a running game to throw the opponents defense off)? Yep, Tony Romo...

Like I ask my son, name me 5 "superstars" on this team (and I use that term lightly because the talent level drops off quite a bit after them). That is about all you can name is about 5, everyone else is either fresh out of college and/or are projects or they just are not good.

So this same ol' same ol' Romo must go rehash thread should be merged with all the other threads and save us the trouble of reading them.

Are you Psychic? Also, you complain about people complaining yet you join in with a long dumb thread?
 

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DFWJC;5029351 said:
Yuck yuck
That there's sum deeep thinkin'!

I try to pace myself. Sometimes, when i get deep in thot, my brain overheats and then I half to cool myself down to avoid an outage.
But then there is times that I can think for 5 minutes at a time and still be good as new for your benefits here.

I half to go now. this satellite TV can pick up past shows of "Cops" and then I half to go think some more to contrebute here and earn my keeps.
 

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Super_Kazuya;5029350 said:
The main reason you should duck is not because of your opinion, but because you only watched one game all season. What kind of fan does that?

Sear Supper: No, i am pretty sure I watched 14 games last season. One I could not get on the television set and the other time a fight broke out at the bar and I had to scoot becaus i did not want a bottle to hit me in the face and that is my best aspect of my total look. OK, that and my begiling smile.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5029509 said:
No, i am pretty sure I watched 14 games last season. One I could not get on the television set and the other time a fight broke out at the bar and I had to scoot becaus i did not want a bottle to hit me in the face and that is my best aspect of my total look. OK, that and my begiling smile.

You do know that ufcunrules1 loves you right?

Both of you hate Romo.

And you don't know what you got till it's gone.

And, like the one that loves you, you only remember the last game.

Actually, you are making a lot of Romo haters love you. Keep up the good work.

:shades:
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5029507 said:
I try to pace myself. Sometimes, when i get deep in thot, my brain overheats and then I half to cool myself down to avoid an outage.
But then there is times that I can think for 5 minutes at a time and still be good as new for your benefits here.

I half to go now. this satellite TV can pick up past shows of "Cops" and then I half to go think some more to contrebute here and earn my keeps.
preciate it
 

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ufcrules1;5029080 said:
Yeah, players like Kaepernic, Wilson, RG3, Luck, etc... would only win 2 or 3 games here in Dallas. I'm not paying to watch those bozo's, . It's not Romo's fault he threw those 3 interceptions against Washington, his team sucks. If it wasn't for him we would have never had a chance to play against Washington for the division. Romo 4 life!

Those teams were the top ranked teams in rushing for the season, we were dead last in rushing. In fact, we had the lowest rushing attempts in the 52 yr history of the franchise.

Romo was 3rd in the league in pass attemps, he even had a game where he had over 60 pass attempts. And he still ended the season with a QB rating of 90. When Kap, RG3, and Wilson throw the ball 60 times a game then come back to me with their stats and we can discuss apples to apples.

If this is your argument to Tom Condon (Romo's agent), he would eat you alive (after he stopped laughing).
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5029344 said:
Good post. Now duck because the truth is not always welcomed.

Ah tell you whut: The best time for Jerra to have dealt with Tony was 10 seconds after our "great" QB threw that interception to the Commanders defender in the last game of 2012.
Tony, then, would have settled for the league minimum.
Now, he thinks hisself as a top tier QB, and he really aint.

Top tier means getting into the playoffs, at least. I will now duck as well.:)



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Beast_from_East;5029544 said:
Those teams were the top ranked teams in rushing for the season, we were dead last in rushing. In fact, we had the lowest rushing attempts in the 52 yr history of the franchise.

Romo was 3rd in the league in pass attemps, he even had a game where he had over 60 pass attempts. And he still ended the season with a QB rating of 90. When Kap, RG3, and Wilson throw the ball 60 times a game then come back to me with their stats and we can discuss apples to apples.

If this is your argument to Tom Condon (Romo's agent), he would eat you alive (after he stopped laughing).

We're dead last in rushing in part because the a majority of plays are designed around Romo. Jason Garrett doesn't make a game plan for Demarco Murray. Murray is the way distant third option on this team. It also has to do with the seemingly unending amount of injuries that guy seems to accrue but thats a different topic for a different thread. You could definitely make the argument that Romo's stats are inflated due to the fact that he's throwing so much. In that sense you understand why he turns the ball over because so much is being asked of him.

However what I don't understand is why the guy cannot seemingly run away from the wrong play. He has to play the hero. Prime example is that Detroit game last year. The Cowboys had the game in hand. They didn't have to make any more big plays. In fact if anything they just had to keep running the ball. But Romo and the coaching staff just had to prove a point and they gave the game to the Lions.

I just don't understand after all these years and all the things that have happened how Romo even has a job. Quarterbacks who have done much more than Romo have been cast aside for much less. Jerry must be desperate to win a title in his golden years and sees Romo as his best chance to do so. Won't say anymore on this...don't wanna beat a dead horse.
 
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