Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

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ufcrules1;5029832 said:
Yup, different opinions for different people. Not sure why posters have to attack other posters who have a different opinion? I have been down the road of being a big Romo fan but after watching him for a long time I see the same mistakes made over and over from him, throwing off his back foot, not taking a sack when he should, not throwing the ball away when he should, waiting until zero seconds to snap the ball, melting down in huge games, etc. I think locking him down for 5-6 years is a HUGE mistake but time will tell.

The opposing argument will always be who do you replace him with?

To which I reply- I don't care. I don't think Romo can win the SB for the Cowboys, I don't trust him anymore. So why not just take a step forward from this era of players and move on. I've always said this about Romo, He doesn't learn from his mistakes and he seems to suffer from confidence issues. He can be great and out of thin air he will crumble. That kind of drastic drop in play won't get it done. If he has one of those deer in the headlights game in the post season it's all over anyways.
 

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DallasDomination;5029900 said:
The opposing argument will always be who do you replace him with?

To which I reply- I don't care. I don't think Romo can win the SB for the Cowboys, I don't trust him anymore. So why not just take a step forward from this era of players and move on. I've always said this about Romo, He doesn't learn from his mistakes and he seems to suffer from confidence issues. He can be great and out of thin air he will crumble. That kind of drastic drop in play won't get it done. If he has one of those deer in the headlights game in the post season it's all over anyways.

Now if you remove yourself from the formula do you think Romo will be the starting QB of the Cowboys?

I think people need to remove the tin foil caps. For so many here to call themselfs realist this thread it pretty unreal. :laugh2:
 

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At the end of the day, it does not matter if a handful of fans still don't trust him. He's going to get extended, and that's a good thing for the Cowboys for as long as he plays at a very high level. We've got bigger fish to fry than trying to upgrade an already-strong QB group.
 

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ufcrules1;5029832 said:
Yup, different opinions for different people. Not sure why posters have to attack other posters who have a different opinion? I have been down the road of being a big Romo fan but after watching him for a long time I see the same mistakes made over and over from him, throwing off his back foot, not taking a sack when he should, not throwing the ball away when he should, waiting until zero seconds to snap the ball, melting down in huge games, etc. I think locking him down for 5-6 years is a HUGE mistake but time will tell.

Agreed. Be a big mistake.

weaver21;5029885 said:
I can understand why people have given up on him and don't think he has what it takes to win, I really do. His past performances in close games prove that and I have no problem with people believing that. I have a problem with people placing ALL the blame on Romo when that is far from truth. I know some people don't do that, but some actually do and that irritates me. Yes, Romo is a big a part of why we can't win close games and have success in the playoffs, but he's not the only reason. I can easily point out something that went wrong in every close game that he's been a part of that doesn't apply to Romo.

The Giants game in 2007... offensive line completely evaporated in the 4th quarter and gave no time for him throw at all. Add in the Crayton and Fasano drops and clearly Romo wasn't the only one at fault in that game.

Eagles in 2008... basically everyone was terrible in that game so I don't need to list specifics.

Vikings game in 2009... once more after Flozell went down, Allen ate up Free and the rest of the offensive line faltered as well. Romo didn't play well either so he's a main reason we lost that game as well. The defense also didn't play like they were the previous weeks so that didn't help.

Giants game in 2011... Romo actually played well in that game besides the one interception, but no running game and a crappy defense didn't help him out. However, Romo didn't play well in the first half so that can contribute to the 21-0 hole we dug ourselves. He did have a hand the size of a damn football so he wasn't exactly 100%.

Commanders game in 2012... this is probably the only game where I can honestly say that Romo is the main reason we lost. Yes, the defense gave up 200 yards rushing and Garrett didn't exactly call the best game and adjustments for the blitz. However, Romo just flat out sucked in that game and clearly wasn't confident. The first interception cost us at least 3 points and the second one he throw a 40 yard bomb on a 2nd and 5. I don't need to comment on the third one, he simply choked and was fooled big time by Jackson. This was probably the game that closed the door for many Cowboys fans for Romo so I can understand why most don't trust him after this game.

You can see my point... Romo plays a major part in all these losses, but he's not the MAIN reason we lost. I can't stand when people blame everything on him because it's so far from the truth.

Agreed.. He isn't the main reason, but, that last game of 2012 did it in for me.

Doomsday101;5029890 said:
I think Romo has every intention of being a Dallas Cowboy and the Dallas Cowboys have every intention of having Romo as their QB. A deal will get done

Well.... Duh.

DallasDomination;5029900 said:
The opposing argument will always be who do you replace him with?

To which I reply- I don't care. I don't think Romo can win the SB for the Cowboys, I don't trust him anymore. So why not just take a step forward from this era of players and move on. I've always said this about Romo, He doesn't learn from his mistakes and he seems to suffer from confidence issues. He can be great and out of thin air he will crumble. That kind of drastic drop in play won't get it done. If he has one of those deer in the headlights game in the post season it's all over anyways.

Not gonna replace Romo overnight. All I am saying is that a search for a replacement and starter needs to start to happen. This team and fans can't go through another Aikman hangover. Or, shouldn't have to.

Doomsday101;5029905 said:
Now if you remove yourself from the formula do you think Romo will be the starting QB of the Cowboys?

I think people need to remove the tin foil caps. For so many here to call themselfs realist this thread it pretty unreal. :laugh2:

Of course Romo is going to be the starting QB for the Cowboys this coming season. Still, his replacement has to be found.

No tinfoil hat here. lol. No blinders either.:rolleyes:
 

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Hook'em#11;5029926 said:
Agreed. Be a big mistake.



Agreed.. He isn't the main reason, but, that last game of 2012 did it in for me.



Well.... Duh.



Not gonna replace Romo overnight. All I am saying is that a search for a replacement and starter needs to start to happen. This team and fans can't go through another Aikman hangover. Or, shouldn't have to.



Of course Romo is going to be the starting QB for the Cowboys this coming season. Still, his replacement has to be found.

No tinfoil hat here. lol. No blinders either.:rolleyes:

I agree that Dallas will have to look for his replacement, I really do not see that this year unless a top QB falls into their lap. This draft has been said as a weak draft in terms of QB so running out and grabbing one does not make him a replacement. I do hope though by next year the Cowboys do look to find a QB who they feel can develop into an eventual replacement just as Dallas had done when they got Morton to replace Meredith or Roger to replace Morton and then white to replace Roger. We suffered for a while after we lost White and then again after losing Aikman I don't want to see us do that again.
 

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They'll roll with Tony till his wheels fall off. They aren't going to find a replacement till forced to. I have no confidence in Romo but he'll be the QB.
 

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weaver21;5029885 said:
I can understand why people have given up on him and don't think he has what it takes to win, I really do. His past performances in close games prove that and I have no problem with people believing that. I have a problem with people placing ALL the blame on Romo when that is far from truth. I know some people don't do that, but some actually do and that irritates me. Yes, Romo is a big a part of why we can't win close games and have success in the playoffs, but he's not the only reason. I can easily point out something that went wrong in every close game that he's been a part of that doesn't apply to Romo.

The Giants game in 2007... offensive line completely evaporated in the 4th quarter and gave no time for him throw at all. Add in the Crayton and Fasano drops and clearly Romo wasn't the only one at fault in that game.

Eagles in 2008... basically everyone was terrible in that game so I don't need to list specifics.

Vikings game in 2009... once more after Flozell went down, Allen ate up Free and the rest of the offensive line faltered as well. Romo didn't play well either so he's a main reason we lost that game as well. The defense also didn't play like they were the previous weeks so that didn't help.

Giants game in 2011... Romo actually played well in that game besides the one interception, but no running game and a crappy defense didn't help him out. However, Romo didn't play well in the first half so that can contribute to the 21-0 hole we dug ourselves. He did have a hand the size of a damn football so he wasn't exactly 100%.

Commanders game in 2012... this is probably the only game where I can honestly say that Romo is the main reason we lost. Yes, the defense gave up 200 yards rushing and Garrett didn't exactly call the best game and adjustments for the blitz. However, Romo just flat out sucked in that game and clearly wasn't confident. The first interception cost us at least 3 points and the second one he throw a 40 yard bomb on a 2nd and 5. I don't need to comment on the third one, he simply choked and was fooled big time by Jackson. This was probably the game that closed the door for many Cowboys fans for Romo so I can understand why most don't trust him after this game.

You can see my point... Romo plays a major part in all these losses, but he's not the MAIN reason we lost. I can't stand when people blame everything on him because it's so far from the truth.

I enjoyed reading your post and I will be the first to say that I'm Tony's biggest critic here on this forum but with that said I have never accused him of being our BIGGEST problem. In fact, I have never seen someone here say Tony is our biggest problem/put all the blame on him for our teams failures. Do you have some examples? I have seen people immediately jump to that conclusion if someone says something bad about Tony but never heard anyone say he is our biggest problem. As you have already laid out he has played a role in us losing in some big games. So he does play a part in the issues this team has. Below is the order in which the blame falls.. in my mind anyway.

Biggest issues with the team:

1. Owner
2. Oline
3. Dline
4. Coaching
5. Tony Romo
 

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BoysFan4ever;5029939 said:
They'll roll with Tony till his wheels fall off. They aren't going to find a replacement till forced to. I have no confidence in Romo but he'll be the QB.

Yup, feel the same way.
 

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BoysFan4ever;5029939 said:
They'll roll with Tony till his wheels fall off. They aren't going to find a replacement till forced to. I have no confidence in Romo but he'll be the QB.

You're right, Jerry will stay with Romo, be it loyalty, or some other reason, who knows.

Then again, this year might just be the year Romo steps up and heads to the big apple for the big game, who knows what's in the cards. But from an outsider looking it- and don't get me wrong I am a die-hard fan, but i also liked the Boys when Landry ran it - if Romo doesn't make a deep run into the playoffs this year, you guys have GOT to admit that it just isn't gonna happen with him. I mean...how much more time does he need? He's been heading that helm for what now......7 going on 8 years...when is enough enough?
 

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BoysFan4ever;5029939 said:
They'll roll with Tony till his wheels fall off. They aren't going to find a replacement till forced to. I have no confidence in Romo but he'll be the QB.

Sadly,

This is truth..

No, Romo faithful. Not that it will be Tony's show.

Truth that his front office has proven that they wait for the last minute to find a QB. EGO is a nasty thing.
 

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Hook'em#11;5029951 said:
Sadly,

This is truth..

No, Romo faithful. Not that it will be Tony's show.

Truth that his front office has proven that they wait for the last minute to find a QB. EGO is a nasty thing.

That isn't fair to the loyal fans, or any cowboy fan period! It isn't fair to the rest of the players who are chompin at the bit for a ring. I am sure a lot of them have lost confidence in Romo.

And again I'll say it, he happens to be a very good QB, it just isn't gelling for him in Dallas.
 

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bklyn1028;5029950 said:
if Romo doesn't make a deep run into the playoffs this year, you guys have GOT to admit that it just isn't gonna happen with him. I mean...how much more time does he need? He's been heading that helm for what now......7 going on 8 years...when is enough enough?

I know you are new to football, but have you ever heard of any of these things: coaching, running game, defense, special teams? You know, things the quarterback doesn't have any control of?
 

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bklyn1028;5029950 said:
You're right, Jerry will stay with Romo, be it loyalty, or some other reason, who knows.

Then again, this year might just be the year Romo steps up and heads to the big apple for the big game, who knows what's in the cards. But from an outsider looking it- and don't get me wrong I am a die-hard fan, but i also liked the Boys when Landry ran it - if Romo doesn't make a deep run into the playoffs this year, you guys have GOT to admit that it just isn't gonna happen with him. I mean...how much more time does he need? He's been heading that helm for what now......7 going on 8 years...when is enough enough?
What about this team in it's current state would make you think they should (would deserve to and would underachieve if they didn't) make a deep run in the playoffs?
I assume a deep run means to the final four at the least.
Is this team the 4th best team...and we are so sure of that it would be fauilure to not make the final four? And if they did'nt, it would be on Romo?
The logic seems a bit out of whack.
I do think they'll be better, but there are some really good teams at the top right now.
 

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dstone2962;5028742 said:
You're acting like that was the first time he'd been in situations like that.
He was clearly outplayed by Griffin that day simply by the fact that Griffin made less mistakes.


Posts like this are the reason I have avoided this place since the season was over.
 

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ufcrules1;5029944 said:
I enjoyed reading your post and I will be the first to say that I'm Tony's biggest critic here on this forum but with that said I have never accused him of being our BIGGEST problem. In fact, I have never seen someone here say Tony is our biggest problem/put all the blame on him for our teams failures. Do you have some examples? I have seen people immediately jump to that conclusion if someone says something bad about Tony but never heard anyone say he is our biggest problem. As you have already laid out he has played a role in us losing in some big games. So he does play a part in the issues this team has. Below is the order in which the blame falls.. in my mind anyway.

Biggest issues with the team:

1. Owner
2. Oline
3. Dline
4. Coaching
5. Tony Romo

I think you can add to that list playing undisclipined football. Maybe it would fall under coaching but this team just plays so dumb sometimes. Too many penalties. Players not knowing where to line up. I saw Romo last year time after time having to direct guys to the right spot. It just throws everything off.
 

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Beast_from_East;5029554 said:
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bklyn1028;5029950 said:
You're right, Jerry will stay with Romo, be it loyalty, or some other reason, who knows.

Then again, this year might just be the year Romo steps up and heads to the big apple for the big game, who knows what's in the cards. But from an outsider looking it- and don't get me wrong I am a die-hard fan, but i also liked the Boys when Landry ran it - if Romo doesn't make a deep run into the playoffs this year, you guys have GOT to admit that it just isn't gonna happen with him. I mean...how much more time does he need? He's been heading that helm for what now......7 going on 8 years...when is enough enough?

well then defense better show up as well as some other areas. Rodgers is a great QB why only 1 SB? did he forget how to play the game? or is the team in general have some issue to overcome?

Always easy to point to the QB most fans do, hell even the Raven fans did with Flacco
 

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rangers71;5029975 said:
Posts like this are the reason I have avoided this place since the season was over.

Many FANS are bothered by the truth which causes a lot of the dissension here. The truth is RG3 didn't play great in the season finale but he converted some key 3rd downs with his arm and legs and didn't do anything to help get his team beat. The fact that he didn't turn the ball over made his performance better than Romo's. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to accept.

During the 2012 season Romo completed 65.6% of his passes and his passer rating was 90.5. in the season finale he only completed 54.1% of his passes and his passer rating was 55.9. His 55.9 passer rating was the lowest passer rating he had for any game all season and it came in the most critical game of the year with a playoff birth on the line.

His 54.1 completion percentage was the lowest completion percentage he had in any game all season. The fact is Romo played his worst game of the season when it was down to do or die for the Cowboys. Being critical and pointing out the facts isn't hating on Romo and it's unfortunate that some construe it that way.
 

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BoysFan4ever;5029983 said:
I think you can add to that list playing undisclipined football. Maybe it would fall under coaching but this team just plays so dumb sometimes. Too many penalties. Players not knowing where to line up. I saw Romo last year time after time having to direct guys to the right spot. It just throws everything off.

Yeah, I blame that on the coaches and the the culture that JJ has created in Dallas. Several of the players are flat out undisciplined and they get away with it.
 

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KJJ;5030003 said:
Many FANS are bothered by the truth which causes a lot of the dissension here. The truth is RG3 didn't play great in the season finale but he converted some key 3rd downs with his arm and legs and didn't do anything to help get his team beat. The fact that he didn't turn the ball over made his performance better than Romo's. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to accept.

During the 2012 season Romo completed 65.6% of his passes and his passer rating was 90.5. in the season finale he only completed 54.1% of his passes and his passer rating was 55.9. His 55.9 passer rating was the lowest passer rating he had for any game all season and it came in the most critical game of the year with a playoff birth on the line.

His 54.1 completion percentage was the lowest completion percentage he had in any game all season. The fact is Romo played his worst game of the season when it was down to do or die for the Cowboys. Being critical and pointing out the facts isn't hating on Romo and it's unfortunate that some construe it that way.

I think its totally fair to point out what you have.

And I also think the Cowboys loss in Washington is probably a little more complicated than "Tony had a bad day." Not to suggest what % of responsibility you are placing there.

Clearly there was too much for Tony to deal with on that day AND create success. Now the question is how to best solve that going forward. Is it plugging in a different QB to that same situation which then results in a division title? Or does that yield the same result until we come up with better pass protection, running game, or attack scheme that enhances those?
 
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