Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

[Arkyvarminter]

I like Romo but I do have issues with his decision making. I'm not making excuses for him but I do think Garrett is part of his problem. Garrett's playcalling has much to be desired and he loves to pass even when the run game is working. I think if Romo had someone like Parcells running the show, the last few years would look completely different and Romo would be viewed completely different as well..................

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If you really feel this way, then it's got to be one item in a very long list of football-related items you don't understand. No QB has ever been cast aside for doing more than Tony Romo has at a point where he's still playing at a very high level.

Even our competitors understand what a really good player Tony is.

You are wrong to think that we, who do not idoloze Romo, consider him a pedestrian QB. On the contrary. Many who criticize Romo are very up front that his personal stats are great.
So let us get this notion that he's not a good QB out of the way.
Many have by now taken note that he does not fare well in must-win critical games. Or when there is one last play to make to win the game, any game.

He could be the greatest QB who ever lived, and STILL CHOKE.
THAT is the plaint among many who criticize him. When he first started I thought he was GREAT. After the Seattle playoff game I thot it was just a anamolie. After several mishaps I began to think it a pattern. After the Washington game I knew -- just knew -- he was a choker. A good QB but a choker.

And, yes, perhaps our competitors think Romo excels. But they have their own competent QB and I do not see them unloading theirs to get ours.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Many FANS are bothered by the truth which causes a lot of the dissension here. The truth is RG3 didn't play great in the season finale but he converted some key 3rd downs with his arm and legs and didn't do anything to help get his team beat. The fact that he didn't turn the ball over made his performance better than Romo's. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to accept.

During the 2012 season Romo completed 65.6% of his passes and his passer rating was 90.5. in the season finale he only completed 54.1% of his passes and his passer rating was 55.9. His 55.9 passer rating was the lowest passer rating he had for any game all season and it came in the most critical game of the year with a playoff birth on the line.

His 54.1 completion percentage was the lowest completion percentage he had in any game all season. The fact is Romo played his worst game of the season when it was down to do or die for the Cowboys. Being critical and pointing out the facts isn't hating on Romo and it's unfortunate that some construe it that way.

It was just one game. In a 16 game season, no quarterback is going to play well in all of them. You get down on your knees and pray every night to make that game a magical game, your precious elimination game, but it was just one regular season game that had the same value as the other 16. They didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game, no matter how hard you and ESPN beg and plead for it to be so.

At the end of the season, all one can do is ask if Romo had enough good games to say he did his job. Did he? He probably did. BUT, I don't think anyone's crazy to say that he didn't though. In 2011, I definitely would have thought someone was crazy to say Romo was a problem in any way. But it wasn't as clear cut in 2012. He definitely was not as good as he was in 2011.

But I'm proud of you, you didn't say the word "elimination games" for the first time I've ever seen in one of your posts. I swear at one point, I thought you got paid $25 every time you typed it.

 

[dstone2962]

At the end of the day, it does not matter if a handful of fans still don't trust him. He's going to get extended, and that's a good thing for the Cowboys for as long as he plays at a very high level. We've got bigger fish to fry than trying to upgrade an already-strong QB group.

No one on this board honestly believes they affect any thought process the Cowboys have. We're just discussing what we would like to see. Of course he's going to get extended and of course by mid season next year people will be having the same discussions about his ability to win close games or to not make the big mistake at the worst time. It's like you people haven't seen him play before.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Yeah, I blame that on the coaches and the the culture that JJ has created in Dallas. Several of the players are flat out undisciplined and they get away with it.

True. When Tony has to tell players time after time where to line up we have a huge problem. We play sometime like we never practice anything.

 

[dstone2962]

It was just one game. In a 16 game season, no quarterback is going to play well in all of them. You get down on your knees and pray every night to make that game a magical game, your precious elimination game, but it was just one regular season game that had the same value as the other 16. They didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game, no matter how hard you and ESPN beg and plead for it to be so.

At the end of the season, all one can do is ask if Romo had enough good games to say he did his job. Did he? He probably did. BUT, I don't think anyone's crazy to say that he didn't though. In 2011, I definitely would have thought someone was crazy to say Romo was a problem in any way. But it wasn't as clear cut in 2012. He definitely was not as good as he was in 2011.

But I'm proud of you, you didn't say the word "elimination games" for the first time I've ever seen in one of your posts. I swear at one point, I thought you got paid $25 every time you typed it.

Okay. They didn't miss the playoffs because of that game. Which game was much more important? Theyre ALL very important. A loss in week 2 or 4 will come back to haunt you(especially home games where you throw multiple picks) where you have to play on the road week 16.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

No one on this board honestly believes they affect any thought process the Cowboys have. We're just discussing what we would like to see. Of course he's going to get extended and of course by mid season next year people will be having the same discussions about his ability to win close games or to not make the big mistake at the worst time. It's like you people haven't seen him play before.

Yep, and then we will tell them to name these mistakes and they'll start babbling about big AFC games in week 3 in 2008. No worries. It's like you Romo haters don't even watch the games.

 

[Nightman]

It was just one game. In a 16 game season, no quarterback is going to play well in all of them. You get down on your knees and pray every night to make that game a magical game, your precious elimination game, but it was just one regular season game that had the same value as the other 16. They didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game, no matter how hard you and ESPN beg and plead for it to be so.

At the end of the season, all one can do is ask if Romo had enough good games to say he did his job. Did he? He probably did. BUT, I don't think anyone's crazy to say that he didn't though. In 2011, I definitely would have thought someone was crazy to say Romo was a problem in any way. But it wasn't as clear cut in 2012. He definitely was not as good as he was in 2011.

But I'm proud of you, you didn't say the word "elimination games" for the first time I've ever seen in one of your posts. I swear at one point, I thought you got paid $25 every time you typed it.

Not sure what your point is, but it was an elimination game and Dallas missed the playoffs because they lost. It wasn't just a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played. Yes, it counted the same as the other 7 losses, but to try and say it was the same, knowing everything you knew at the time is silly. Romo picked the worst time to have his worst game. Dallas had a chance to improve after the Seattle loss, not so for the Commander loss.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Okay. They didn't miss the playoffs because of that game. Which game was much more important? Theyre ALL very important. A loss in week 2 or 4 will come back to haunt you(especially home games where you throw multiple picks) where you have to play on the road week 16.

I actually AGREE with you, I am just saying all along that Romo does not make mistakes "at the worst times" any more than any other quarterback. You are saying take into account all of the games, which I agree with, but the problem with that is Romo has OVERWHELMING positive performance if you take ALL of the games into account. Why do you think the media harps so much on the 1-6 in made up elimination games so much? Because Romo is so good in all of the other games.

 

[dstone2962]

Posts like this are the reason I have avoided this place since the season was over.

People like you are blind to what's happening to Dallas. They're getting old on both sides of the ball, especially defense. Don't point me to articles talking about the average age. I know that's going down.

The status quo isnt cutting it and Dallas is mortgaging their future to keep themselves relevant.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not sure what your point is, but it was an elimination game and Dallas missed the playoffs because they lost. It wasn't just a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played. Yes, it counted the same as the other 7 losses, but to try and say it was the same, knowing everything you knew at the time is silly. Romo picked the worst time to have his worst game. Dallas had a chance to improve after the Seattle loss, not so for the Commander loss.

So then once a QB wins a SB then there is nothing left to prove? It took Brees years before he got one it took Peyton years before he got one. I don't know if Romo will get a ring or not but if it happens it will because the Cowboys as a team were good enough to get it.

Winning a SB is not about Tony Romo it is about the Dallas Cowboys, Rodgers has not gotten one since his defense lead the NFL so what did Rodgers forget how to play or just maybe the game is not just the fricken QB. What I doubt is fans who can't see beyond the QB and act as if he is the only player on the field. He is not. No one is making an excuse for Romo he had a bad game vs Washington you don't throw away a top QB because of it.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Not sure what your point is, but it was an elimination game and Dallas missed the playoffs because they lost. It wasn't just a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played. Yes, it counted the same as the other 7 losses, but to try and say it was the same, knowing everything you knew at the time is silly. Romo picked the worst time to have his worst game. Dallas had a chance to improve after the Seattle loss, not so for the Commander loss.

Yes, it was just a regular season game. Stop watching ESPN so much. Saying it wasn't a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. 1/16th. That's it.

 

[dstone2962]

Yes, it was just a regular season game. Stop watching ESPN so much. Saying it wasn't a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. 1/16th. That's it.

Why are you blaming ESPN? ESPN has nothing to do with it. It technically had the title of a regular season game, but it was a de facto playoff game. Lose or you're out.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Why are you blaming ESPN? ESPN has nothing to do with it. It technically had the title of a regular season game, but it was a de facto playoff game. Lose or you're out.

There was no technically about it, it was a regular season game. The problem is, you REALLY do think the Cowboys missed the playoffs because they lost that game. There's no cure for that.

 

[dstone2962]

So then once a QB wins a SB then there is nothing left to prove? It took Brees years before he got one it took Peyton years before he got one. I don't know if Romo will get a ring or not but if it happens it will because the Cowboys as a team were good enough to get it.

Winning a SB is not about Tony Romo it is about the Dallas Cowboys, Rodgers has not gotten one since his defense lead the NFL so what did Rodgers forget how to play or just maybe the game is not just the fricken QB. What I doubt is fans who can't see beyond the QB and act as if he is the only player on the field. He is not. No one is making an excuse for Romo he had a bad game vs Washington you don't throw away a top QB because of it.

Comparing Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo is like comparing a steak house to Chili's. I think you are right though. Its a team game. Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Colin Kapernick. However, his team, the 49ers is much more balanced and physical than the Packers.

The whole point of this post was that I wasn't sure why Jerry Jones would bend over for Tony Romo when the only real leverage that Tony Romo has is the cap space for this year. If we're going to put our horses to Tony Romo, you've really got think about what this guy has offered and is going to offer in the future. Apparently losing a game to your divisional rival and the humiliation of being consoled by RGIII after the game wasn't enough for Jerry to lose it. Apparently nothing will.

 

[jjktkk]

You are wrong to think that we, who do not idoloze Romo, consider him a pedestrian QB. On the contrary. Many who criticize Romo are very up front that his personal stats are great.
So let us get this notion that he's not a good QB out of the way.
Many have by now taken note that he does not fare well in must-win critical games. Or when there is one last play to make to win the game, any game.

He could be the greatest QB who ever lived, and STILL CHOKE.
THAT is the plaint among many who criticize him. When he first started I thought he was GREAT. After the Seattle playoff game I thot it was just a anamolie. After several mishaps I began to think it a pattern. After the Washington game I knew -- just knew -- he was a choker. A good QB but a choker.

And, yes, perhaps our competitors think Romo excels. But they have their own competent QB and I do not see them unloading theirs to get ours.

Tony is a very good qb. Top 10 in the league maybe. But Lets harken back to yester year gimme and recall a very good qb of the Cowboys. A qb who has better career stats. than Roger the dodger, but who is known for not getting it done, as far as winning Super Bowls. Remember him?

 

[Nightman]

Yes, it was just a regular season game. Stop watching ESPN so much. Saying it wasn't a regular season game because the rest of the season had already been played is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. 1/16th. That's it.

You're whole is argument is silly. If they win they go to the playoffs, if they lose they don't. It has nothing to do with ESPN and everything to do with timing. You're just trying to find some justification for not blaming Romo for having his worst game against the Commanders, who were by no means a very good defensive team.

 

[Nightman]

So then once a QB wins a SB then there is nothing left to prove? It took Brees years before he got one it took Peyton years before he got one. I don't know if Romo will get a ring or not but if it happens it will because the Cowboys as a team were good enough to get it.

Winning a SB is not about Tony Romo it is about the Dallas Cowboys, Rodgers has not gotten one since his defense lead the NFL so what did Rodgers forget how to play or just maybe the game is not just the fricken QB. What I doubt is fans who can't see beyond the QB and act as if he is the only player on the field. He is not. No one is making an excuse for Romo he had a bad game vs Washington you don't throw away a top QB because of it.

I don't know how your response has anything to do with what I said. Romo sucked in the game against Washington and it hurt the team badly. I didn't say get rid of him.

 

[Doomsday101]

Comparing Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo is like comparing a steak house to Chili's. I think you are right though. Its a team game. Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Colin Kapernick. However, his team, the 49ers is much more balanced and physical than the Packers.

The whole point of this post was that I wasn't sure why Jerry Jones would bend over for Tony Romo when the only real leverage that Tony Romo has is the cap space for this year. If we're going to put our horses to Tony Romo, you've really got think about what this guy has offered and is going to offer in the future. Apparently losing a game to your divisional rival and the humiliation of being consoled by RGIII after the game wasn't enough for Jerry to lose it. Apparently nothing will.

Not comparing outside of the fact it take more than a QB Rodgers and the Packers won a SB but it was not Rodgers alone the GB defense lead the damn league in take aways they played a big part. Same with Brees NO won A SB he played a big part so did the league leading defense in take aways. You put the ball back into the hand of the offense they get more chances to score. It is not all QB but you guys are not smart enough to figure it out. You act like it is a 1 man game it isn't never has been.

As for the after game BS you are talking about only a small mind fan would even make that comment. But then I'm use to this by now.

 

[dstone2962]

There was no technically about it, it was a regular season game. The problem is, you REALLY do think the Cowboys missed the playoffs because they lost that game. There's no cure for that.

I'm not the only one who thought that. Because that's what happened. Did ESPN make that happen too?

I can't believe you're actually stretching this out to make a point...

Yes. The technical time of the season under which that game was played was the regular season. HOWEVER whoever played that game was an automatic division winner and entrant into the NFL playoffs. There was no other shot. That would decide who would move on. To call it a regular season game is just undercutting the value of that game.