Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
bkight13;5030062 said:
I don't know how your response has anything to do with what I said. Romo sucked in the game against Washington and it hurt the team badly. I didn't say get rid of him.

I agree he played poorly in the Washington game, Dallas played poorly in the washington game. There are those who think Romo can't win and people like Stauback who thinks he can. I get tired fans who see football as some 1 man game it is not, we can list great QB some with rings and I can promise you there will be other HOF players sitting on that roster.
 

Super_Kazuya

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,074
Reaction score
9,113
bkight13;5030061 said:
You're whole is argument is silly. If they win they go to the playoffs, if they lose they don't. It has nothing to do with ESPN and everything to do with timing. You're just trying to find some justification for not blaming Romo for having his worst game against the Commanders, who were by no means a very good defensive team.

If they were 15-0 and won that game, they also would have gone to the playoffs. You're not a very advanced thinker, I'm sad to say. The problem is, like I told the other Romo hater, you REALLY do think they didn't go to the playoffs because they lost that game. That's a delusion that only professional help can fix.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,220
Reaction score
39,454
Super_Kazuya;5030039 said:
It was just one game. In a 16 game season, no quarterback is going to play well in all of them. You get down on your knees and pray every night to make that game a magical game, your precious elimination game, but it was just one regular season game that had the same value as the other 16. They didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game, no matter how hard you and ESPN beg and plead for it to be so.

At the end of the season, all one can do is ask if Romo had enough good games to say he did his job. Did he? He probably did. BUT, I don't think anyone's crazy to say that he didn't though. In 2011, I definitely would have thought someone was crazy to say Romo was a problem in any way. But it wasn't as clear cut in 2012. He definitely was not as good as he was in 2011.

But I'm proud of you, you didn't say the word "elimination games" for the first time I've ever seen in one of your posts. I swear at one point, I thought you got paid $25 every time you typed it.


The season finale didn't have the same value as the 15 previous games because that game had the division title and a playoff birth attached to it. Everyone knew what was at stake heading into that game. It was an "elimination game" but it was just one game to you because you STILL don't know what an elimination game is.
 

GimmeTheBall!

Junior College Transfer
Messages
37,694
Reaction score
18,042
jjktkk;5030060 said:
Tony is a very good qb. Top 10 in the league maybe. But Lets harken back to yester year gimme and recall a very good qb of the Cowboys. A qb who has better career stats. than Roger the dodger, but who is known for not getting it done, as far as winning Super Bowls. Remember him?

And, sadly, Roger never saw the money Romo is making each year.
But that is the case for many of the yesteryear greats.

I find it difficult to critisize Romo, but my head is beginning to hurt when, year after year, I bang it against the wall after we miss the playoffs or go one and out with Romo.

And i feel bad for my fellow Cowboys fanatics who feel Romo will get us to the Super Bowl. Won't happen. sort of like poverty-stricken children who hold out hope for Santy clause.
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,982
Reaction score
48,729
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
dstone2962;5030048 said:
People like you are blind to what's happening to Dallas. They're getting old on both sides of the ball, especially defense. Don't point me to articles talking about the average age. I know that's going down.

The status quo isnt cutting it and Dallas is mortgaging their future to keep themselves relevant.
Just cutting in here...

The team HAS gotten younger the last two seasons. The hope is that it will continue to do so, but they are shedding older guys left and right.
And the young guys are talented:
Claiborne
Carr
Bryant
T Smith
Lee
Carter
Murray
Bailey
..
Harris
Crawford
Church
...
and maybe...
Hanna
Parnell
Moore
Johnson
Wilber
Beasely
Coale


The team has 3-5 older guys in big roles and that's about it. Few teams have much less than that.
 

Arkyvarminter

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,501
Reaction score
1,904
Can we all agree, and I like Romo, that great QB's turn it up a notch in big games and Romo hasn't done so...Yet??????????
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Super_Kazuya;5030070 said:
If they were 15-0 and won that game, they also would have gone to the playoffs. You're not a very advanced thinker, I'm sad to say. The problem is, like I told the other Romo hater, you REALLY do think they didn't go to the playoffs because they lost that game. That's a delusion that only professional help can fix.

I've forgotten more football than you will ever know. I really think you must be trolling, because your lack of logic is scary. They weren't 15-0, they were 8-7. It was the last game of the year. The game wasn't played in some sort of time machine vacuum. If they win they go on, if they lose they go home. There were no other mitigating factors and ESPN surely wasn't one of them.
 

dstone2962

Member
Messages
82
Reaction score
14
Doomsday101;5030063 said:
Not comparing outside of the fact it take more than a QB Rodgers and the Packers won a SB but it was not Rodgers alone the GB defense lead the damn league in take aways they played a big part. Same with Brees NO won A SB he played a big part so did the league leading defense in take aways. You put the ball back into the hand of the offense they get more chances to score. It is not all QB but you guys are not smart enough to figure it out. You act like it is a 1 man game it isn't never has been.

As for the after game BS you are talking about only a small mind fan would even make that comment. But then I'm use to this by now.

What did I just say? Its a team game. ITS A TEAM GAME. Can I be any more clear? The Cowboys don't have a team. They have about ten solid 10 players that can play highly specific roles. Its amazing that they even got to 8-8.
 

Super_Kazuya

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,074
Reaction score
9,113
Arkyvarminter;5030078 said:
Can we all agree, and I like Romo, that great QB's turn it up a notch in big games and Romo hasn't done so...Yet??????????

Unfortunately, no, because there are hundreds of examples of great QBs playing absolutely awful in big games.
 

dstone2962

Member
Messages
82
Reaction score
14
DFWJC;5030076 said:
Just cutting in here...

The team HAS gotten younger the last two seasons. The hope is that it will continue to do so, but they are shedding older guys left and right.
And the young guys are talented:
Claiborne
Carr
Bryant
T Smith
Lee
Carter
Murray
Bailey
..
Harris
Crawford
Church
...
and maybe...
Hanna
Parnell
Moore
Johnson
Wilber
Beasely
Coale


The team has 3-5 older guys in big roles and that's about it. Few teams have much less than that.
I know that. in big roles is a pretty vital statement.
 

Arkyvarminter

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,501
Reaction score
1,904
Super_Kazuya;5030081 said:
Unfortunately, no, because there are hundreds of examples of great QBs playing absolutely awful in big games.
That's true, but the great ones eventually turn the corner......
 

Super_Kazuya

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,074
Reaction score
9,113
bkight13;5030079 said:
I've forgotten more football than you will ever know. I really think you must be trolling, because your lack of logic is scary. They weren't 15-0, they were 8-7. It was the last game of the year. The game wasn't played in some sort of time machine vacuum. If they win they go on, if they lose they go home. There were no other mitigating factors and ESPN surely wasn't one of them.

I'll keep saying it until you understand it (or I die, apparently)... the Cowboys didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game.
 

PJTHEDOORS

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,190
Reaction score
18,582
Arkyvarminter;5030078 said:
Can we all agree, and I like Romo, that great QB's turn it up a notch in big games and Romo hasn't done so...Yet??????????

Just as teams as a whole turn it up a notch in big games and the other 52 players on the Cowboys haven't done that either.
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,982
Reaction score
48,729
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Doomsday101;5030067 said:
I agree he played poorly in the Washington game, Dallas played poorly in the washington game. There are those who think Romo can't win and people like Stauback who thinks he can. I get tired fans who see football as some 1 man game it is not, we can list great QB some with rings and I can promise you there will be other HOF players sitting on that roster.
Few QBs have better ratings in playoff games than they do in the regular season. And if you added road elimination games, the stats would even be worse.

I would like to see Tony have a multiple chances with a decent team. I though the 2007 team was good and results were very good...13-3, Final 8 and inches away from final 4. I think if the sample size is bigger people will see better results.
 

dstone2962

Member
Messages
82
Reaction score
14
Super_Kazuya;5030091 said:
And are therefore proclaimed great after the fact?

People are just prone to do that. Let's not however act like quarterbacks like John Elway are the norm.
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Super_Kazuya;5030088 said:
I'll keep saying it until you understand it (or I die, apparently)... the Cowboys didn't miss the playoffs because they lost that game.

If they win the game do the Cowboys make the playoffs? Yes or no.
 

Arkyvarminter

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,501
Reaction score
1,904
Super_Kazuya;5030091 said:
And are therefore proclaimed great after the fact?

If you want to be great, you have to win the big games. We don't know if Romo, and the team, will win a SB, but if he is going to be compared to Aikman and Staubach, they are going to have to start winning in a hurry.....
 

Super_Kazuya

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,074
Reaction score
9,113
bkight13;5030098 said:
If they win the game do the Cowboys make the playoffs? Yes or no.

Yes. If they also went into the game 15-0 and won, they would have also made the playoffs. It was just one regular season game. There's no cause and effect.
 
Top