Why have so many soured on Miles?

[Stash]

lol

Ok, stash.

When you've got nothing...

You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine.

And we'll revisit the topic down the road and see how the story ends.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

When you've got nothing...

You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine.

And we'll revisit the topic down the road and see how the story ends.

I agree, you've certainly got nothing to back up your point that he's not busting his butt to get back on the field or that he's content to stay hurt.

Take a step back for a second and try to realize just how silly those thoughts are, man.. you're better than this.

 

[BigStar]

I feel like many people actually dont like Miles Austin at all. I know his pay is way more than someone with production should be pulling in. The hamstrings have been a thorn in the side on the team for a long time. These are serious issues, I agree. However, I dont see where these many posts about Beasley getting his reps are coming from. Williams is a nice story but he clearly doesnt have the hands as Austin.
He isnt far removed from thousand yard seasons. If you noticed him in the Giants game he looked as explosive as I remember him ever being. The guy has never caused any off the field problems and has carried out his duties in a very professional manner. If you take a look at Cowboys all time stats you might be shocked at what hes meant to the Cowboys. I cant wait to see him on the field this year showing his explosive abilities again.
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Miles is such an enigma it gets to be too frustrating, and the cap figure is part of the "big" salaries on the team. He obviously isn't lazy but his hamstrings never allow a fan to rely on him. I personally love his "story" bc he isn't a "natural" receiver, more of an athlete with decent hands but has made it work coming in as an UDFA. The organization rewarded him quickly and the perception is that his play dropped off from that point, fair or not...and the large salary and looming hammy issues don't help him. Like him as a player though and do consider him more of an outside threat over any other back up wr's so there is no need in rushing to cut him.

 

[Stash]

I agree, you've certainly got nothing to back up your point that he's not busting his butt to get back on the field or that he's content to stay hurt.

Take a step back for a second and try to realize just how silly those thoughts are, man.. you're better than this.

No need.

You keep your beliefs based on what you're seeing, and I'll keep mine.

No brainless 'lol's' necessary.

 

[TTexasTT]

Miles is such an enigma it gets to be too frustrating, and the cap figure is part of the "big" salaries on the team. He obviously isn't lazy but his hamstrings never allow a fan to rely on him. I personally love his "story" bc he isn't a "natural" receiver, more of an athlete with decent hands but has made it work coming in as an UDFA. The organization rewarded him quickly and the perception is that his play dropped off from that point, fair or not...and the large salary and looming hammy issues don't help him. Like him as a player though and do consider him more of an outside threat over any other back up wr's so there is no need in rushing to cut him.

That sums it up pretty well. His future with Dallas doesnt look great but I hope we can squeeze a strong 2nd half outta him.

 

[popp1234]

[quote="TTexasTT, post: 5272727, member: 35732"]I feel like many people actually dont like Miles Austin at all. I know his pay is way more than someone with production should be pulling in. The hamstrings have been a thorn in the side on the team for a long time. These are serious issues, I agree. However, I dont see where these many posts about Beasley getting his reps are coming from. Williams is a nice story but he clearly doesnt have the hands as Austin.
He isnt far removed from thousand yard seasons. If you noticed him in the Giants game he looked as explosive as I remember him ever being. The guy has never caused any off the field problems and has carried out his duties in a very professional manner. If you take a look at Cowboys all time stats you might be shocked at what hes meant to the Cowboys. I cant wait to see him on the field this year showing his explosive abilities again.
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I have a question for you and I am not being a smart arse. Why when you read that fans criticize a player, you take that to mean they do not like them? And when we criticize the team or organization, then we don't like them either. I have noticed that on more than one occasion. I absolutely love Dez Bryant, he is from my same ne k of the woods, but I will still criticize his performance and attitude from time to time. Does that mean I hate him? No.

 

[TTexasTT]

I have a question for you and I am not being a smart arse. Why when you read that fans criticize a player, you take that to mean they do not like them? I have noticed that on more than one occasion.

I think that fans who say things like "hes a waste" "He doesnt care" "hes stealing money" and so forth. I think its just unfortunate. I have no special reason to defend Austin specifically, I think the guy has paid enough dues to be held in a high regard no matter how much money he was given.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

No need.

You keep your beliefs based on what you're seeing, and I'll keep mine.

No brainless 'lol's' necessary.

Brainless?

"lol" means i'm laughing at what you're saying because i think its silly.

"brainless" would be saying that Miles is lazy and isn't trying to come back and isn't working hard to rehab and is content to stay hurt, etc, etc.. based on absolutely nothing.

 

[popp1234]

I think that fans who say things like "hes a waste" "He doesnt care" "hes stealing money" and so forth. I think its just unfortunate. I have no special reason to defend Austin specifically, I think the guy has paid enough dues to be held in a high regard no matter how much money he was given.

I understand and appreciate where you are saying, but this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league. I am sure Miles realizes that too. You can't dwell on past performances and expect to fans to cut you some slack unless you are a hall of famer, and even then fans will be criticsl (see Witten when he had a case of the dropsies last year). Miles? His hamstring injury seems to linger a little longer after he signed the fat contract, IMO. Just sayin'.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It is like Broaddus put it, Miles seems quite content on the sideline wrapped in his snuggle..lol

Broaddus said that?

As for the OP, it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is. People love to dump on pretty much every player who goes downhill, especially ones that make good money. I don't know people are that way, but they are.

 

[Hoofbite]

Pass Rating on Austin's Targets
2011 117.8
2012 87.0
2013 70.2

So somebody is in decline?

 

[Hoofbite]

Broaddus said that?

As for the OP, it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is. People love to dump on pretty much every player who goes downhill, especially ones that make good money. I don't know people are that way, but they are.

You don't know why people dislike underperforming and highly paid players?

 

[TTexasTT]

I understand and appreciate where you are saying, but this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league. I am sure Miles realizes that too. You can't dwell on past performances and expect to fans to cut you some slack unless you are a hall of famer, and even then fans will be criticsl (see Witten when he had a case of the dropsies last year). Miles? His hamstring injury seems to linger a little longer after he signed the fat contract, IMO. Just sayin'.

Thats exactly what this league is. Its all about what have you done lately.
Lemme show you something funny.
People even thought that Dez was garbage.
Ive posted these several times but its still funny to me.

Guys, take off the goggles. Dez is the draft equivalent of the Roy Williams trade. Everyone else in the league sees this except you.

I do doubt the authenticity of the tweet, but are football people floating this idea of "terrible" and "disaster" yes they are.

Comments like this drive me NUTS! If he would be some "STAR" or have a "BREAK OUT CAREER" elsewhere, then best of luck to him. He has the perfect chance to do those things here! He just cant get out of his own way! Hes one Toss of his jersey at Garrett to be JUST like his cousin Antonio Bryant!

His numbers? Such as the number of times we see Romo yell "Dez!" after a busted play? Romo can't even look his way in big situations because he runs the wrong route too often. Age can't fix stupid.

Like I've said before, Dez is a fine #3 receiver.

The #1 ingredient to a successful WR is having the trust of his QB. No QB could trust #88 so he rarely gets looks. Jerry bought fools gold on this one.

13 catches and he doesn't break 100 yards. I don't know if I've ever seen such crappy production from a receiver. I'm being serious. And his drops are worthy of a benching. That kind of crappy production along with his boneheaded play is easily replaced.

No team would give up more than a 5th round pick for a very flawed and emotionally troubled player that doesn't have the ability to remember plays, drops passes, and has emotional tantrums. At best we might get another journeyman OL player back.

If Garrett had a brain and a pair, whihc he doesn't, he would start making Miles the number one option in the passing game. But if he would, I;m sure Jerry would over rule him.

Dez was the problem last night. I believe he'll be the problem in the future.

To turn the season, send a message ... cut him .. now! Just let him go.

Negatives

Can not run most routes
can not make most hot read adjustments at the line
drops balls at critical moments
not in great shape.
beats up his own mother

Positives

two TD punt returns. He seems to be real decent in that.



I think he is really over rated, I can't remember a cowboys player that was this over rated .

I wish they would trade Dez and get a good receiver. He sucks!

I would call the Jags and offer Dez for Larent Robinson and 2 late round draft picks!

Anyway, I just feel the amount of hate hes been getting here lately can be attributed to a good game by Beasely. There are seriously guys that think he can be a replacement from Miles Austin. Perhaps it could be true but highly doubt it.

 

[CowboyStar88]

TT I usually agree with everything you post. But I disagree about the first Game. I didn't see any explosion out of Miles in that game. I was disappointed with all the attempts his way how poor is average was. Something is not right with Miles at all. Why did he miss the Det game? He played the week before? Don't recall hearing he hurt himself again? I feel like as soon as Twill started to come on he was quick to want to come back.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You don't know why people dislike underperforming and highly paid players?

Well it's like T-Ro said, I generally don't dislike players unless their effort isn't there or they're bad guys off the field or something like that. It stinks that Miles is always hurt, but I don't see any indication that he's jaking it. And it's not his fault Jerry offered him a lot of money.

 

[TTexasTT]

TT I usually agree with everything you post. But I disagree about the first Game. I didn't see any explosion out of Miles in that game. I was disappointed with all the attempts his way how poor is average was. Something is not right with Miles at all. Why did he miss the Det game? He played the week before? Don't recall hearing he hurt himself again? I feel like as soon as Twill started to come on he was quick to want to come back.

lol I just got called out for talking outta my butt.
Busted, I only really watched him a him alone for a few series. I even turned to my gf and said that Miles looked good.
I did think he looked wonderful coming off the line...

 

[Hoofbite]

Well it's like T-Ro said, I generally don't dislike players unless their effort isn't there or they're bad guys off the field or something like that. It stinks that Miles is always hurt, but I don't see any indication that he's jaking it. And it's not his fault Jerry offered him a lot of money.

I don't dislike the guy either but I'm not going to pretend he's half the player he was - or is half as healthy as he was - during the season he earned that big payday.

Is that on him, I really don't know. I can't see how there isn't something that could be done to prevent these recurrent hamstring issues.

I don't think he's a bad guy and I don't dislike him. It may not be his fault that Jerry offered him money but the reality is that his presence comes at the expense of someone who can help.

 

[TTexasTT]

I don't dislike the guy either but I'm not going to pretend he's half the player he was - or is half as healthy as he was - during the season he earned that big payday.

Is that on him, I really don't know. I can't see how there isn't something that could be done to prevent these recurrent hamstring issues.

I don't think he's a bad guy and I don't dislike him. It may not be his fault that Jerry offered him money but the reality is that his presence comes at the expense of someone who can help.

What are the odds of over 500 yards for Austin this season?

 

[Oh_Canada]

Well it's like T-Ro said, I generally don't dislike players unless their effort isn't there or they're bad guys off the field or something like that. It stinks that Miles is always hurt, but I don't see any indication that he's jaking it. And it's not his fault Jerry offered him a lot of money.

I think he quit in the finale last year and just content to play the odd game as a decoy so far this year.

Guy is the epitome of what has plagued this team year in and year out. Too many marshmellows content when they get a little scratch from Jerrah. The Cowboys need to stop drafting and re-signing talented nice guys who happen to play football and start drafting players who love playing football and hate to lose. More Sean Lee, Dez Bryant, Orlando Scandrick's please. Less Miles Austin, MoClaiborne, and David Arkin's.

 

[dstovall5]

It's not that we don't like Miles, it's just that we don't like his hamstrings, they got to go.