Why I feel it is Zeke or bust

[MichaelWinicki]

Two years ago, and as usual, the defense was our ultimately our undoing. Tell me how Elliott leading the league changes that, when Murray leading the league didn't.

Well... yeah!

 

[Thomas82]

Zeke would be the safest pick and have the most immediate impact out of any prospect in this draft.

 

[Gameover]

I don't think it's poor management of draft picks, I see it as a year when none of the other players excite me.

I would like a trade back but I don't want the Giants to get Elliot.

How many teams were successful because of their 'franchise' corner?

Give me the guy that can potentially average 1,500 and 13 the next six years, I'll 'worry' about the 'albatross' down the road.

 

[Macnalty]

I think Elliott is the better RB but Henry is the better defensive choice for this team. Plus I love watching opponents making business decisions.

 

[Texas_Pete]

Everyone was loving DeMarco Murray and his 1800yrs two years ago but they seem to forget he was a 3rd round draft pick. Now folks want a great RB on the team again but for some reason think we have to use our 1st round pick to get it. That's just poor management of draft picks, IMHO. We can use that 1st pick to fill a bigger weakness and still have the 2nd or 3rd pick to get great RB talent. It doesn't have to be Zeke but that's the rabbit hole some folks fall in.

Murray should have been a 1st rounder though. He broke several of AD's OUT records and was legit. It's too bad we could not keep him.

 

[Gameover]

Two years ago, and as usual, the defense was ultimately our undoing. Tell me how Elliott leading the league changes that, when Murray leading the league didn't.

What was our record?

Bad management at the end of the half, and Murray's fumble on a play he may have scored on, also played a big part in our undoing.

I guess it's SB or bust w/ this guy.

 

[mattjames2010]

 

[Galian Beast]

I I used to feel the same way, but if Tunsil is there, I would hope that we would take him instead or trade down and possibly take Zeke later in the draft.

Even if Tunsil isn't there there could be trade down possibilities.

What I don't want is for us to take Jack, Ramsey, or Bosa.

 

[robjay04]

Two years ago, and as usual, the defense was ultimately our undoing. Tell me how Elliott leading the league changes that, when Murray leading the league didn't.

I'm not saying our defense doesn't need massive upgrades. I just don't know how much of that we can do for it, namely the pass rush, with the fourth pick.

At least with Murray we went 12-4 and we were a fumble or a catch call from potentially winning that game despite our defense.

 

[rikolai]

The argument of whether to take Elliott or not isn't as complex as it's being made out to be. It all comes down to what you think of Ezekiel Elliott,the player and person. I,like the OP,usually believe in not investing high draft picks or heavy cap space at the RB position. But there are exceptions to every rule.

Elliott strikes me as a great team guy,somebody who you would want to be the face of your franchise. A RB that would kind of become the 6th offensive lineman and whose linemen want to block for. If you were a fan during the Emmitt days,you will get where I am coming from here. The strength of our team is up front with basically 4 first round picks in their early to mid 20s who are only getting better. We have to maximize it. That's our ticket. Ball control,time of possession,pound the defense in the 2nd half. Running the ball travels in playoff weather.

So going back,it's really simple. If you have Elliott in the class of an Adrian Peterson you want him. If you're looking at it from a traditional standpoint and valuing more based on the positions harder to fill,you don't. But I like to look at it as if we are entering week 1 against the Giants and if we have a healthy OL and Ezekiel Elliott running behind it,I feel a lot better about our chances. Draft him.

 

[gmoney112]

I'm not saying our defense doesn't need massive upgrades. I just don't know how much of that we can do for it, namely the pass rush, with the fourth pick.

At least with Murray we went 12-4 and we were a fumble or a catch call from potentially winning that game despite our defense.

You spelled Romo and Dez Bryant wrong.

 

[perrykemp]

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel site just posted Bob McGinn's scout comments for RBs.

Here is what the scouts/team execs said about Ezekiel Elliott:

1. EZEKIEL ELLIOTT, Ohio State (5-11 ½, 227, 4.48, 1): Third-year junior. "He is the only one with all the traits," said one scout. "He's got a chance to be the best player in the draft. He, (Joey) Bosa, (Laremy) Tunsil. He can catch it, he can pass protect, he's got NFL size and he can run. If he stays healthy he's going to be a (Adrian) Peterson-type back." Smartest RB in years (32 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test). "Football intelligence might be the best thing he has," another scout said. "He goes to the sidelines and tells the coaches the block protections. The coaches tell me he tells them what to do. To me, your intelligence is your blocking." Finished with 592 carries for 3,961 yards (OSU-record 6.7-yard average) and 43 touchdowns. Also caught 58 passes for 449. Played behind Carlos Hyde in 2013 before breaking out as a sophomore. Has undergone surgery twice on his left wrist. "Zeke just has the NFL mentality," said one scout. "Love the kid as a football player." From St. Louis.

 

[BrassCowboy]

There is one team whose franchise player is a rb, and that team isnt good. If they draft elliott, he has value for 4 years and after that becomes an albatross to keep. Thats best case scenario.

He turns 21 in July so your saying when he is 25 he will be all be washed up? I am calling BS. Think we are listening to a few too many sportscaster opinions

 

[jazzcat22]

So glad we can have another thread on this. We were almost out.

There is nothing else going on though. No new signings for people to whine aboit or to claim "championship", no signings by other teams to rue. Unless one wants to talk about Norman.
No players released to rue or praise.

Heck the liquor store clerk has even been quiet.

Could do predict the record from the recent schedule release, but 90% of the posts will be ...it's too early, I don't do those things, or the usual why play the games we will suck anyway posts....but then it will turn into...draft X player and we get more wins...lol....

But I know what you mean though too.

 

[percyhoward]

I'm not saying our defense doesn't need massive upgrades. I just don't know how much of that we can do for it, namely the pass rush, with the fourth pick.

At least with Murray we went 12-4 and we were a fumble or a catch call from potentially winning that game despite our defense.

Teams with great offenses and average-at-best defenses fall short every year. That team was just one in a long line.

Either take the best defender on our board at #4, trade down for multiple defenders, or draft Elliott and hope for a defensive miracle.

 

[Gameover]

I'm not sure if Elliot is on the Cowboys radar.

The pick will be Bosa.

 

[Beast_from_East]

First of all, most years I am firmly against taking a running back high in the draft. I agree that you can find solid contributors at literally any point in the draft and we have an offensive line that can turn even average runners into superstars

This is not most drafts. We have a top 5 that will likely consist of a combination of couple quarterbacks that have each have huge question marks. A DE that doesn't grade out as an elite pass rusher and a secondary player without an exact position or an interception. We also have an injured linebacker getting some consideration. The best pure prospect is at a position we don't need(OL).

Besides Tunsil, how many of these players do you consider prospects that can be among the best at their position? How many of these prospects would have been considered top 5 or even top 10 players in previous years. Maybe Ramsey but besides that, I don't know if any of these guys sniff the top 10 in many previous draft years.

This is a strange draft on the top end by all measures and that is not disputable. Behind this OL, Zeke is a player that can be the best at his position for many years to come. He is more talented than Demarco Murray and will see more pro bowls than any other player we draft at number 4 behind this OL. He would make the defense better, he would make Tony Romo better. We would instantly have a better offense and defense with the addition of an elite runner and we would have the best running back game in the NFL waiting for our next QB to take over in 2-3 years.

This is literally one of the worst top end drafts I have ever seen...........

Goff is going to the Rams
Wentz is going to the Eagles
Ramsey cant catch a cold in the artic
Bosa spends half the dam game laying on the ground wondering what a sack looks like.
Jack is a one-legged non-pass rushing LB
Tunsil is overdrafting since the OL is already the best unit of the team
Buckner has the strength of a small baby, Stanford slapped him around all game long
Treadwell is so slow you can time his 40 with a freaking sun dial.

Its laughable how bad the top end of this draft is............with that being said, I either go Lynch or Zeke at 4 because we basically have nothing behind Romo right now (Moore, seriously?) and Lynch is the last QB standing with any chance at all of becoming a franchise QB.

I go Zeke because he is just electrifying with the ball and is a homerun threat that we have not had at RB in a very long time. This also allows us to return back to being a heavy run team and allows Romo to take less hits. Contrary to popular belief, our all-star offensive line is not really that great at pass blocking. We are in the middle of the pack of sacks allowed over the last couple of seasons so anything to lessen the hits on Romo is the best strategy here.

Go Zeke!!!

 

[Romotil45]

Would you still want Zeke at 4 if you knew Garrett would give the same number of reps to Morris and/or McFadden this season?

Most people think Zeke would get 20 carries or more a game and they would be wrong. It's very rare that RB get more than 230-240 carries a year now that about 15 carries a game which means he will be sharing time with McFadden, Morris or both but most people just don't get it.

 

[BrassCowboy]

This is literally one of the worst top end drafts I have ever seen...........

Goff is going to the Rams
Wentz is going to the Eagles
Ramsey cant catch a cold in the artic
Bosa spends half the dam game laying on the ground wondering what a sack looks like.
Jack is a one-legged non-pass rushing LB
Tunsil is overdrafting since the OL is already the best unit of the team
Buckner has the strength of a small baby, Stanford slapped him around all game long
Treadwell is so slow you can time his 40 with a freaking sun dial.

Its laughable how bad the top end of this draft is............with that being said, I either go Lynch or Zeke at 4 because we basically have nothing behind Romo right now (Moore, seriously?) and Lynch is the last QB standing with any chance at all of becoming a franchise QB.

I go Zeke because he is just electrifying with the ball and is a homerun threat that we have not had at RB in a very long time. This also allows us to return back to being a heavy run team and allows Romo to take less hits. Contrary to popular belief, our all-star offensive line is not really that great at pass blocking. We are in the middle of the pack of sacks allowed over the last couple of seasons so anything to lessen the hits on Romo is the best strategy here.

Go Zeke!!!

and this right here sums up my line of thinking altogether. Great post! Smart move would be Zeke.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Most people think Zeke would get 20 carries or more a game and they would be wrong. It's very rare that RB get more than 230-240 carries a year now that about 15 carries a game which means he will be sharing time with McFadden, Morris or both but most people just don't get it.

ahhh if Elliot is the hot runner, he will keep getting the rock. Cant lose