Why in the heck would we spend a 4th on a player that won't even make the team?

[iceberg]

Yeah, I do realize there is some time. I don't think "Grammy" is out the door when the lights come on Wade's butt will tighten up. Do you want to go into a playoff game with a true rook? Maybe not now but you know it's going to be an issue if it happens.

you want to go into the playoffs with someone we plucked off unemployment last year and couldn't make any other NFL team? sooner or later imperfection will be an issue.

i'll take my chances on the draft pick

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why not wait until he is healthy enough to do something before you pronounce him dead?

A-G-E-N-D-A

 

[Bleed Blue]

you want to go into the playoffs with someone we plucked off unemployment last year and couldn't make any other NFL team? sooner or later imperfection will be an issue.

i'll take my chances on the draft pick

I sure hope your right,because we all know it only take one play to go on to the next week or not. I just feel the the experence is priceless when it counts the most.

 

[Hostile]

I sure hope your right,because we all know it only take one play to go on to the next week or not. I just feel the the experence is priceless when it counts the most.

So in a crucial end of game situation this year you'd take Tony Romo out of the game and insert Brad Johnson?

 

[dargonking999]

So in a crucial end of game situation this year you'd take Tony Romo out of the game and insert Brad Johnson?

Look what happened last year

 

[Bleed Blue]

So in a crucial end of game situation this year you'd take Tony Romo out of the game and insert Brad Johnson?

That's not fair! No,but I would rather have a kicker that would be less rattled and had been there before.:

 

[Hostile]

That's not fair! No,but I would rather have a kicker that would be less rattled and had been there before.:

Not fair? It was your criteria, not mine.

What proof do you have that Folk (or any other rookie kicker) would be more rattled than a veteran? Just a gut feeling? Great evidence.

 

[CowboyJeff]

Stanback is the odd man out! Still not healthy and deep in rank Stanback better hope some luck is on his side. Owens,Glenn,Crayton,Hurd,then Austin,Rector,urban. The return should be Austin and Thompson. What gives?

ask Lacewell.

 

[DallasEast]

That's not fair! No,but I would rather have a kicker that would be less rattled and had been there before.:

2006 Postseason:

Stephen Gostkowski, NE, 8-for-8 FGs, 9-for-9 extra points.

 

[iceberg]

I sure hope your right,because we all know it only take one play to go on to the next week or not. I just feel the the experence is priceless when it counts the most.

that's the way the game works. you see, we got vandy to fix all our kicking woes. top FA of the time.

didn't make it through the year and we're pecking off the unemployment line you're now touting as a "been there vet". maybe he has but there's likely a reason he was available 1/2 way through the season, ya think?

we'll see where it falls but sometimes people go for comfort and the sake of thought and that's just life i suppose.

 

[Bleed Blue]

Not fair? It was your criteria, not mine.

What proof do you have that Folk (or any other rookie kicker) would be more rattled than a veteran? Just a gut feeling? Great evidence.

That's why they call them "Rooks" but your right it's a push. Thanks for the argument! Stanback is still not a given.

 

[Seven]

that's the way the game works. you see, we got vandy to fix all our kicking woes. top FA of the time.

didn't make it through the year and we're pecking off the unemployment line you're now touting as a "been there vet". maybe he has but there's likely a reason he was available 1/2 way through the season, ya think?

we'll see where it falls but sometimes people go for comfort and the sake of thought and that's just life i suppose.

Damn you ice!! I hadn't heard nor read anything about Ray Finklejact for a solid month!! Where'd I leave those electrodes.................

 

[theebs]

I would imagine he is going to get pup'd because he will never make it to the practice squad.

i cant imagine there is anyway possible he can help this team at wr in the first quarter of the season, so pup him, let him get healthier, work on punt returns and grow into a wr.

Then you can activate him in november, deactivate him on Gameday and sometime after thanksgiving make him active on gameday and if he can bring something to the team, punt returns or a decoy in a spread set.

He is a more speedy version of crayton on paper with his ability or threat to take a reverse and throw it 60 yards down the field. If he gets on the field with owens, glenn, witten and jones with jones and witten lined up in traditional sets and then going to a 5 wide via a shift, he will get the least attention, so you can run reverses or bubble screens to him or the reverse pass down the field to glenn.

anyway, I think With him being pup'd you can save yourself a potential disaster of cutting grammatica too soon. I have a feeling if we cut grammatica on a monday morning he will be signed by monday afternoon somewhere else, so we need to see folk in a real game before you can turn loose grammatica.

Just my two cents. But I dont see stanback doing much of anything for this team before thanksgiving. There shouldnt be a need too.

and for what its worth, Terrance Newman when he was on with Babe laufenberg thursday night said he wants to play offense and expects to this year. He said he could handle all the defensive snaps, the punt returns and some shifts at wr.

So maybe we see that like in 05. I hope not though. I hope newman only returns punts when the other team is backed up deep like last year, inside the 30 or less. And my reasoning for that is pretty simple and obvious, when teams are backed up they punt in a protect mode to guard against teams blocking punts especially inside the 10. Teams get more aggressive (obviously) and will attack the punter when pinned down like that. That means that most of the time you will get shorter kicks with less guys down the field to cover it. It opens up lots of opportunities for newman to catch and look which will allow him the time and vision to make someone miss and possibly get some open space.

When teams dont have to guard against blocks they can corner kick and hang it higher and pin the return man in a corner where he wont get the time or the vision. So using newman when the other team is backed up is in a basic way genius. When he only has to go 50 yards and has a .25 second to peak he is very dangerous and got better and better at it last year. I imagine he is going to put 2 in the endzone this year. He just looked great doing it last year.

 

[speedkilz88]

You can't take all 53 to a game anyway. Even if Stanback isn't ready to contribute, they can just keep him as one of the inactives. I think he practices this week anyway. He's been running routes and working with the wrs coach the last couple days.

 

[speedkilz88]

I would imagine he is going to get pup'd because he will never make it to the practice squad.

i cant imagine there is anyway possible he can help this team at wr in the first quarter of the season, so pup him, let him get healthier, work on punt returns and grow into a wr.

Then you can activate him in november, deactivate him on Gameday and sometime after thanksgiving make him active on gameday and if he can bring something to the team, punt returns or a decoy in a spread set.

He is a more speedy version of crayton on paper with his ability or threat to take a reverse and throw it 60 yards down the field. If he gets on the field with owens, glenn, witten and jones with jones and witten lined up in traditional sets and then going to a 5 wide via a shift, he will get the least attention, so you can run reverses or bubble screens to him or the reverse pass down the field to glenn.

anyway, I think With him being pup'd you can save yourself a potential disaster of cutting grammatica too soon. I have a feeling if we cut grammatica on a monday morning he will be signed by monday afternoon somewhere else, so we need to see folk in a real game before you can turn loose grammatica.

Just my two cents. But I dont see stanback doing much of anything for this team before thanksgiving. There shouldnt be a need too.

and for what its worth, Terrance Newman when he was on with Babe laufenberg thursday night said he wants to play offense and expects to this year. He said he could handle all the defensive snaps, the punt returns and some shifts at wr.

So maybe we see that like in 05. I hope not though. I hope newman only returns punts when the other team is backed up deep like last year, inside the 30 or less. And my reasoning for that is pretty simple and obvious, when teams are backed up they punt in a protect mode to guard against teams blocking punts especially inside the 10. Teams get more aggressive (obviously) and will attack the punter when pinned down like that. That means that most of the time you will get shorter kicks with less guys down the field to cover it. It opens up lots of opportunities for newman to catch and look which will allow him the time and vision to make someone miss and possibly get some open space.

When teams dont have to guard against blocks they can corner kick and hang it higher and pin the return man in a corner where he wont get the time or the vision. So using newman when the other team is backed up is in a basic way genius. When he only has to go 50 yards and has a .25 second to peak he is very dangerous and got better and better at it last year. I imagine he is going to put 2 in the endzone this year. He just looked great doing it last year.

Dwayne Bowe just signed with KC, does that mean he can't contribute this year either? C'mon there's still a little over a month left until the season starts.

 

[Hostile]

Dwayne Bowe just signed with KC, does that mean he can't contribute this year either? C'mon there's still a little over a month left until the season starts.

Great point.

This hand wringing is way too premature.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

I have nothing against Isaiah Stanback, and of course I hope he becomes the next Hines Ward, but drafting a guy in the 4th round with an existing Lis-Franc injury seems a little "Drafting Quincy Carter in the 2nd round" to me. By all accounts Stanback would have likely been available in the 5th or even 6th round, so it seems the Cowboys jumped the gun a little in trying to get cute and outsmart everyone.

Where did you hear this, I seem to recall a few teams that were interested in him around the same time Dallas drafted him. I think spending your 4th round pick on a project player is not a bad move at all. They knew about his injury, knew that he wouldn't be contributing much of anything this year at all, but by our taking him, it shows that the front office is looking a few years down the road when we won't have the lineup of Glenn and Owens. If he turns out to be a solid 3rd WR then the risk was worth it. If, god willing, he turns into a complete stud as a WR then everyone will be talking about what a draft day coup he was.

I would give the Stanback project 3 years before I started complaining about a wasted pick, but that is my opinion.

 

[speedkilz88]

That was actually an "article" that he posted from another guy's blog. But your right, Jerry and Stanback both have mentioned there were other teams that were interested in him in the fourth including the jags. I'll admit at the time of the pick I was shocked they used a fourth on an injured qb convert, but that was without knowing how special their scouts think he can be. Sounds like he is already showing some impressive speed/cutting ability when running patterns.

 

[AsthmaField]

It kills me how some people are acting like missing the first couple weeks of training camp will make a player's season a wash. We still have a month of preseason left and have yet to even play a preseason game.

Yet, because the media has to have something to say and because everyone lives in the moment and doesn't look too far down the road, everyone is thinking his season is about lost.

Fact is, rookies miss the first part of training camp with holdouts all the time. They're still able to contribute to their teams though.

Lienart missed the first two weeks of training camp last year but by week 6 he was the starter. That is at QB, which is much more difficult to get down as a rookie than any other position. Lienart wasn't even in camp for those two weeks, but Stanback has been in every meeting and going over each play with the coaches after it is ran. He's much better off than Matt was in missing everything completely and yet the ex-USC QB was able to start pretty early in his rookie season.

I think it's a little silly to think that Stanback won't be able to help, even on punt returns, because he's missed the first couple of weeks. That is assuming he doesn't practice before Wed.

Yes, he is changing positions, but that would be hard for him even if he had practiced from the beginning. He'll be able to contribute this year if that's what the coaches want from him. If he fails it won't be because he missed the physical work from the first bit of two a days in training camp.

 

[CaptainQuint]

Stanback is the odd man out! Still not healthy and deep in rank Stanback better hope some luck is on his side. Owens,Glenn,Crayton,Hurd,then Austin,Rector,urban. The return should be Austin and Thompson. What gives?

Stanback to IR sounds sneaky smart. With two 'older' receivers, it could be a clever ploy by our accountants, to keep a draft pick, for the future. On the other hand, Philips said today Stanback's almost ready, so I could be wrong.