Why in the heck would we spend a 4th on a player that won't even make the team?

[VA Cowboy]

you know, it would be a LOT easier to talk to if you didn't shove your idiocy in my mouth and then build a counter argument over something i never said.

You mean, kind of like this:

the sad part is when you get your "acorn" and are right you'll shout it out loud. but if it works out all the negativity seems to fade to whiners being quiet (about that topic anyway).

 

[Vintage]

I don't disagree with the Stanback pick.

I think its worth the risk.

The reality is, whomever we drafted in round 4 wasn't going to start for us (barring injuries). Marten and Free won't likely get time either. Ball/Brown will be used sparingly, if at all, if they make the roster. Anderson maybe does get some playing time.... Folk is the only one (outside of Spencer) with a realistic chance of being a 'starter.'

While we may not be a great team....what we do have is plenty of "good players" with "good depth."

Sure, people like Allison were available for us to take instead of Stanback. But maybe the coaching staff/scouting department thought, at best, Allison would be a #3 WR.

Between Crayton, Hurd, and Austin, I am pretty confident we have a #3 WR in there somewhere (Crayton has proven to be one).

They went for the home run.

Sure, Stanback might not have been highly touted as some other WR's you may have fell in love with.

But Ireland in particular, loves his athleticism and potential. So why not swing for the fences on a 4th rounder?

We will need a future starting WR at some point. Maybe our scouting department thought Allison had no chance of being that but Stanback had the potential to do it, even if he is more raw at this point.

For a 4th, I understood the gamble.

 

[Hostile]

You can hate kickers all you want, but when it comes down to winning with a FG or PAT, they're still the most important guy on the field at that moment.

Folk needs to prove his last season's improvement is the real deal; he was known for accuracy issues. It's a faster game than what he's seen up until TC. For kickers, practice kicks are just fluff.

And for rookie kickers' success, it'd be hard to take any team better to land with than the Pats, other than possibly Indy. Sure there may be a bit more weather to deal with in Foxboro, but no one can predict when a game may come down to a kick to win and it's a rookie trying it in adverse conditions.

And I strongly disagree with that. The snapper is just as important. So is the holder. So are the blockers.

Folk's accuracy issues are a myth. He was 15 of 20 on FG attempts and 4 of the 5 misses were from beyond 45 yeards.

 

[dargonking999]

I don't get it. Why are we crying about a 4th round draft pick?

IT's a day 2 pick. Every single one of those picks are more abut who you like, who you think has potential, then guys who are gonna come in and start.

why you ask?

BECAUSE THEY FELL TO THE 4TH FREAKING ROUND!!!!!

IF all those other guys were so got damn good, then they would have been picked earlier? Agree? Thought so.

It's a 4th round pick, who really gives a hoot. No one else we could have picked was going to do anything for us this year.

Stop your whining and get over it. you still have a problem, write a letter to Mr. Jones i'm sure he would get in his time machine, and not draft Stanback.

 

[iceberg]

You mean, kind of like this:

and this has what to do with you saying i like the carter pick?

NOTHING. keep it on topic please.

 

[iceberg]

Yeah, sometimes it's hard to see when we're guilty of doing the exact same things that annoy us so much when others do them. Very true.

my complaint at the moment is saying how some people can put words into my mouth and then build a counter argument over something i never said.

you're pushing this to "last year you were a OL whiner" and never once did i say i wasn't, did i? and many times since then i've stated it's kinda odd *not* being so wrapped up in something as you can see those who are differently.

in all - thank you for the bout of the obvious but i'm not sure what you're hoping to get out of this.

or care.

 

[superpunk]

my complaint at the moment is saying how some people can put words into my mouth and then build a counter argument over something i never said.

you're pushing this to "last year you were a OL whiner" and never once did i say i wasn't, did i? and many times since then i've stated it's kinda odd *not* being so wrapped up in something as you can see those who are differently.

in all - thank you for the bout of the obvious but i'm not sure what you're hoping to get out of this.

or care.

There's nothing to be "got" out of it.

I just think it's ridiculous for you to scold someone for doing the exact same thing you did last year, simply because of your distaste for the powers in place at the time, and your outlook on things.

Well, these guys don't like Jerry Jones. Maybe they scorn the Standback pick for ONLY that reason.

Even if that's so, you're the last one who should be scolding them on it - considering the bellyaching we had to endure from you based just as much on your distaste for the people making the moves as the moves themselves.

Pot? Kettle?

It's all the same.

 

[iceberg]

There's nothing to be "got" out of it.

I just think it's ridiculous for you to scold someone for doing the exact same thing you did last year, simply because of your distaste for the powers in place at the time, and your outlook on things.

Well, these guys don't like Jerry Jones. Maybe they scorn the Standback pick for ONLY that reason.

Even if that's so, you're the last one who should be scolding them on it - considering the bellyaching we had to endure from you based just as much on your distaste for the people making the moves as the moves themselves.

Pot? Kettle?

It's all the same.

hey - i took my heat last year. i dished it out *AND* took it in return. life on the internet.

and when you show bloodlines into my parenthood and background, i'll give a little bit more of a crap on how *you* feel *i* should behave. till then, if you don't like what i post, ignore me. but just because i got emotional about the OL last year because we pretty much let it ride doesn't mean i can never think someone's opinion is as stupid as it happens to be.

you act as if 1 instance keeps you from being objective, or valid, in other istance or opinion. if that were the case being as we've all been wrong in life we'd all have to shut the hell up and this would get to be a pretty quiet place.

like i said - you don't like how i post - ignore me and we'll both sleep more easily.

 

[Hostile]

I never knew foreplay could be so funny.

 

[superpunk]

like i said - you don't like how i post - ignore me and we'll both sleep more easily.

I didn't say I didn't like how you post - I just said that you're being a hypocrite.

It's all love, baby. :wink2:

 

[iceberg]

I didn't say I didn't like how you post - I just said that you're being a hypocrite.

It's all love, baby. :wink2:

whatever. oddly enough i don't see the hypocracy but you've been calling me that for quite some time. if people who i had any respect for did it i may have more cause for concern.

 

[superpunk]

I never knew foreplay could be so funny.

Sometimes, Dutchmen fly.

whatever. oddly enough i don't see the hypocracy but you've been calling me that for quite some time. if people who i had any respect for did it i may have more cause for concern.

You're so cute sometimes. : I could just eat you up.

 

[VA Cowboy]

and this has what to do with you saying i like the carter pick?

NOTHING. keep it on topic please.

It has to do with your hypocrisy of doing the exact same thing you accuse others of doing.


Nice attempt at trying to brush it off...very predictable.

 

[iceberg]

You probably still think Quincy was a great pick just because the Raiders and maybe one other team had him on their board on day one.

you know, it would be a LOT easier to talk to if you didn't shove your idiocy in my mouth and then build a counter argument over something i never said.

i hated the carter pick and never liked him as a dallas qb.

it's also interesting how you argue with yourself over crap you say and simply pretend someone else said it so you can cliche around and pat yourself on the back like you actually changed the world for the better.

knowing your stance on jones, i'd hardly call you an "objective" resource.

You mean, kind of like this:

(quotes missing where he puts (2) things i said together which have nothing to do with why he said i liked the carter pick)

and this has what to do with you saying i like the carter pick?

NOTHING. keep it on topic please.

It has to do with your hypocrisy of doing the exact same thing you accuse others of doing.

Nice attempt at trying to brush it off...very predictable.

you know superpunk - you're right. it's pretty funny when someone does to you what they claim you're doing to them. VA to date hasn't said what the carter pick has to do with anything in this convo and why he felt he must say *I* liked that pick just to give HIM something to argue about.

then he brushes me off with calling me a hypocrite yet he can never tell me why he brought carter into a convo by saying i liked the pick - of which i never did.

sigh.

 

[VA Cowboy]

You probably still think Quincy...

you know superpunk - you're right. it's pretty funny when someone does to
then he brushes me off with calling me a hypocrite yet he can never tell me why he brought carter into a convo by saying i liked the pick - of which i never did.

sigh.

Note the second word in my post.... "PROBABLY".

You've now set the record straight and have stated you didn't like the Quincy pick.

But with that being the case, it's interesting how it's okay for you to not like certain draft picks, yet you go on a tantrum if someone else dare even questions a pick...like say that of Stanback.

hmm.

 

[dargonking999]

Note the second word in my post.... "PROBABLY".

You've now set the record straight and have stated you didn't like the Quincy pick.

But with that being the case, it's interesting how it's okay for you to not like certain draft picks, yet you go on a tantrum if someone else dare even questions a pick...like say that of Stanback.

hmm.

Quincy was a second round pick that was a reach

Stanback was a 4th round pick, that other teams have made it known they were taking later in the 4th (Jags for instance)

Quincy was drafted to be our starting QB

Stanback as drafted to be a project someone we mold to become our WR.

To even begin to compare those two shows your stupidity and your absolute need to continue to drive your agenda.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Quincy was a second round pick that was a reach

Stanback was a 4th round pick, that other teams have made it known they were taking later in the 4th (Jags for instance)

Quincy was drafted to be our starting QB

Stanback as drafted to be a project someone we mold to become our WR.

To even begin to compare those two shows your stupidity and your absolute need to continue to drive your agenda.

omg.

I never compared the two as players. please learn to read and then comprehend

 

[dargonking999]

omg.

I never compared the two as players. please learn to read and then comprehend

you asked why he could get mad at Quincy, and not at stanback

you therefore compared the players

I gave you the reasons as to why he had the reason to get mad at Quincy and not Stanback

please learn to read and then comprehend

 

[iceberg]

Note the second word in my post.... "PROBABLY".

You've now set the record straight and have stated you didn't like the Quincy pick.

But with that being the case, it's interesting how it's okay for you to not like certain draft picks, yet you go on a tantrum if someone else dare even questions a pick...like say that of Stanback.

hmm.

followed by "still think" which means at one time i thought carter was a good pick because oakland wanted him.

again, you shrug off your own painting of people despite being proven wrong in your made up story and continue down the path of the stupid that shows you can't simply go "oops" and move on. regardless of being wrong in your statement that i am referring to you still must some some iota to be right about.

you that insecure?

and to think a post or two later you tell someone else to comprehend what they read before commenting. you ever try that or do you count on specific "neutral" words to bail you out when you get b-slapped?

"probably still think" means that person must have thought that at one time and you're saying they probably "still do".

you're wrong. you make crap up, put it on someone elses mouth and when busted on it, can't just go "oops...sorry".

you must be that insecure.

 

[iceberg]

omg.

I never compared the two as players. please learn to read and then comprehend

no - you said i "probably still think" carter was a good pick because oakland wanted him when most clear headed people would find my stance on carter before using him as a reference for a stupid statement.

you bring carter out of the blue and yet if someone else does it, drawing their own comparison loosely out of what was said - it's a party foul. and you tell me I'M hypocritical?

high irony content today in this thread.