Why is Dak refusing to give the cowboys a discount? Mahomes did!

[Portnoy1]

Obviously I can be in this thread ALL DAY!!!! I love the discussion!!!

 

[kskboys]

PREACH! PREACH! PREACH! Some people just don't get it and have double standards when it comes to Dak and the organization

And some people don't appear to have the cognitive process to understand that overpaying players leads to mediocrity.

Works both ways.

 

[Portnoy1]

Absolutely.

However, we can get rid of some of these contracts soon. And then what?

It's not a discount. It's reasonable. We offered around 35 mil/season. That is not a discount.

Paying Dak 40 mil/season for 4 years assures us that we won't win in that time.

Maybe I'm wrong (which I have been before) but I thought the sides agreed on a per year number, it was the years of the contract that was holding things up. Wasn't it 37.5 per? Again I could be wrong.

 

[kskboys]

I feel strongly about QBs, and lineman on both sides. If you have a good one and there is not a better one available (via free agency, trade or via a top pick) you lock up what you have or move on. My question is, is there a QB that is "available" that gives us a better chance to win than Dak? If yes, let's work on signing or drafting them. If no we need to sign Dak asap. Do we give Dak the moon? No, but he's not asking for the moon based off his play and the going rate for a QB of his caliber.

Asking for a short term maxed out contract is asking for the moon. Dak needs to sign a contract like Mahomes did, so the team can work w/ it.

 

[Portnoy1]

And some people don't appear to have the cognitive process to understand that overpaying players leads to mediocrity.

Works both ways.

I believe that too, I'm not saying give Dak anything!!!! But what is the going rate for a QB? is what Dak is asking for unreasonable? They overpayed Zeke, and Jaylon and now folks here are talking about how soon we can cut them.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe I'm wrong (which I have been before) but I thought the sides agreed on a per year number, it was the years of the contract that was holding things up. Wasn't it 37.5 per? Again I could be wrong.

Something like that.

Dak wants a short term contract for max dollars. That's a team killer contract.

 

[Portnoy1]

Asking for a short term maxed out contract is asking for the moon. Dak needs to sign a contract like Mahomes did, so the team can work w/ it.

What would be a good contract to you for Dak from a numbers and years standpoint? Maybe I'll better understand how you're seeing it

 

[kskboys]

I believe that too, I'm not saying give Dak anything!!!! But what is the going rate for a QB? is what Dak is asking for unreasonable? They overpayed Zeke, and Jaylon and now folks here are talking about how soon we can cut them.

Going rate for a QB of Dak's caliber is 30ish. We're already offering more than that.

The Zeke/Jaylon/DLaw contracts were all dumb. You appear to be saying that since we were dumb w/ them, we should continue to be dumb.

 

[kskboys]

What would be a good contract to you for Dak from a numbers and years standpoint? Maybe I'll better understand how you're seeing it

10 years/37mil per year, 130 mil guaranteed. Give or take.

 

[Portnoy1]

Going rate for a QB of Dak's caliber is 30ish. We're already offering more than that.

The Zeke/Jaylon/DLaw contracts were all dumb. You appear to be saying that since we were dumb w/ them, we should continue to be dumb.

I think i see where you are coming from now though. So in essence you would pay Dak 30ish (around the same as Goff and Wentz)?

 

[Portnoy1]

10 years/37mil per year, 130 mil guaranteed. Give or take.

I'm personally good with that contract, and I'd offer that if I'm the Cowboys, however If I'm Dak I decline it.

 

[Portnoy1]

10 years/37mil per year, 130 mil guaranteed. Give or take.

If I'm the Cowboys, "I say sign this we want you to be a cowboy for life. And with you locked in we are going to strengthen the lines on both ends to give you more protection so you can sling it downfield and fully show you're abilities. And also protect the leads that you give us"

 

[kskboys]

I think i see where you are coming from now though. So in essence you would pay Dak 30ish (around the same as Goff and Wentz)?

Well, here's the deal. A team must be able to renegotiate big contracts. An absolute must. So, I'm good w/ paying Dak, but he must be paid so he doesn't ruin the team. 37 mil over 4 years could easily do just that.

 

[kskboys]

I'm personally good with that contract, and I'd offer that if I'm the Cowboys, however If I'm Dak I decline it.

Why? What do you want?

 

[kskboys]

If I'm the Cowboys, "I say sign this we want you to be a cowboy for life. And with you locked in we are going to strengthen the lines on both ends to give you more protection so you can sling it downfield and fully show you're abilities. And also protect the leads that you give us"

And hire a GM.

If I were Dak, I'd make that part of the deal.

Basically, looking at what Dak is insisting on, it really looks like he doesn't want to be here. I'm the straightforward type, I'd look him in the eyes and ask him.

 

[Cowpolk]

When did Mahomes give the Cowboys a discount?

 

[Portnoy1]

And hire a GM.

If I were Dak, I'd make that part of the deal.

Basically, looking at what Dak is insisting on, it really looks like he doesn't want to be here. I'm the straightforward type, I'd look him in the eyes and ask him.

See and that's a tough one, because Dak can ask that and then Jerry just hires McClay (in title only) and then still runs stuff the way he wants. It would be real tough to trust them.

 

[kevm3]

if the cowboys don't sign him to a deal before the draft, they better use one of those high picks and get a qb and sit him behind Dak. If you franchise him again, it's almost certain he won't sign any deal unless for astronomical money if he even agrees to one at all. This was the year where we should have 'tanked' because it would have given us options to grab a qb if we can't work things out with Dak, but now we better hope a guy falls to us.

 

[Cmac]

Since we're copying the Mahomes blueprint.....can we give Dak some coaching like Mahomes, to throw in the discussion?

 

[Portnoy1]

Since we're copying the Mahomes blueprint.....can we give Dak some coaching like Mahomes, to throw in the discussion?

Well I think Mccarthy is almost there, he just needs to add on about 50 more lbs and we're good