Why is Dez never in motion?

[khiladi]

Coaches can't move Dez around because he hasn't fully learned the offense, or that's at least what I think. It's no secret that Dez has struggled learning the offense previously, but yet we have people blaming our coaches for this. If you're going to blame anyone, then blame our "passionate" WR for not fully understanding the play book in his 4th year.

Trust me, if people here understand that you can move players around to create better match ups, then our coaches sure as heck know this as well.

It's no secret... Can you provide any evidence or was it simply 'surmised' to justify Garrett's ineptness calling plays last year.. Dez's explosive season last year is often attributed to 'learning the playbook' but it is belied by the fact that during this run Dallas was still amongst the worst in first half offense. Dez and Romo went buck wild when they went up-tempo.

 

[BigStar]

It really amazes me when I read posts from people who sound like they think they'd do a better job designing our offense or calling plays.

Apply for the job, finagle an interview with Jerry and Stephen, and BLOW THEM AWAY on the whiteboard!

It seems the previous hires were just as smart as US......

 

[BigStar]

Marvin Harrison didn't have the YAC ability that Dez has. MH ran precise routes and had EXCELLENT speed. We all know Dez doesn't run the most precise routes. Putting him in motion would help him get open, plain and simple.

But it is true that you don't HAVE TO send WRs in motion for them be all pro, it sure does add another element to game-planning though.

I agree, just because one amazing WR didn't go in motion, doesn't mean others CAN'T make their game just as threatening using standard routes as well motion, bunch, what current O's do...if JG wants this type of WR, he hasn't drafted or changed the draft standard for Wideouts to stress speed and crisp routes. He sure as heck hasn't been able to coach that into the current wr's (Beasley is just natural).

 

[mrmojo]

Probably alrady been mentioned but do we send anyone in motion? I just see the spread formation and we run the play from that point with no movement. Im no expert so maybe its just designed that way. I guess Im spoiled by Coach Landry and all the movement, used to love seeing Drew go in motion and clearing out a side just like in basketball.

 

[btcutter]

Probably alrady been mentioned but do we send anyone in motion? I just see the spread formation and we run the play from that point with no movement. Im no expert so maybe its just designed that way. I guess Im spoiled by Coach Landry and all the movement, used to love seeing Drew go in motion and clearing out a side just like in basketball.

TE goes in motion.

When WR goes in motion it almost is always Harris on a crackback block on a run play. Making Harris going in motion pretty good indicator that it's a run play.

 

[Jenky]

Coaching.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I'm not a football scholar. But putting a receiver in motion tells the offense if the defense is in man coverage (which is obvious if a defender follows the motion man before the snap). In Dez Bryant's case, he's almost certain to be doubled by a corner and safety or have a linebacker hanging over him on almost every snap. So I suppose putting him in motion isn't going to change much.

Again, I could just be affirming I'm not going to be applying for an offensive coordinator's job anytime soon, so take it easy on me, guys.

 

[Jenky]

I'm not a football scholar. But putting a receiver in motion tells the offense if the defense is in man coverage (which is obvious if a defender follows the motion man before the snap). In Dez Bryant's case, he's almost certain to be doubled by a corner and safety or have a linebacker hanging over him on almost every snap. So I suppose putting him in motion isn't going to change much.

Again, I could just be affirming I'm not going to be applying for an offensive coordinator's job anytime soon, so take it easy on me, guys.

Actually, it may put certain personnel on defense out of position and cause confusion. Also, you might get a natural pick out of it. The advantages are endless.

 

[dstovall5]

It's no secret... Can you provide any evidence or was it simply 'surmised' to justify Garrett's ineptness calling plays last year.. Dez's explosive season last year is often attributed to 'learning the playbook' but it is belied by the fact that during this run Dallas was still amongst the worst in first half offense. Dez and Romo went buck wild when they went up-tempo.

Provide evidence for what? That Dez has previously struggled learning the offense? Everyone knows he had difficulty grasping the play book the first couple years, that's no secret.

 

[Beast_from_East]

We are just asking a question. Never said we are better than the coaches. We can't ask anymore?

Garrett will not be questioned peasant.

How dare you insinuate that the second coming of Landry does not know what he is doing. I am sure there is a very good reason that we never use bunch formations, never use pick plays, never use motion, ect.....

 

[khiladi]

Provide evidence for what? That Dez has previously struggled learning the offense? Everyone knows h
e had difficulty grasping the play book the first couple years, that's no secret.

I don't think everybody knew that... If your talking about rookie year, that's everybody. I think some people assumed it happened last year, but nothing substantiates it... Plus, it's becoming common knwledge that JGs playbook is what's simple, not that players can't 'run it'..

Furter, running drags and motion isn't only confined to the NFL.

 

[The Natural]

The enabling of our inept coaches by some of our fans is disgusting. I'm sure Dez has no problem motioning from one side of the line to the other and then running a quick slant. These coaches lack creativity, period.

 

[erod]

The enabling of our inept coaches by some of our fans is disgusting. I'm sure Dez has no problem motioning from one side of the line to the other and then running a quick slant. These coaches lack creativity, period.

Every receiver and tight end, plus the backs, are sent in motion. Except Dez. They don't even line him up in the slot much.

At Okie State, the coaches had Dez line up on their side of the field only so they could talk to him before the plays.

I just don't think coaches trust him to read plays at the line. Hey, it's working, because he's having a good year. Leave it as is, I suppose.

 

[perrykemp]

At Okie State, the coaches had Dez line up on their side of the field only so they could talk to him before the plays.

Really? That's pretty unbelievable.

I'm curious -- how did Dez do on the wonderlic?

 

[erod]

Really? That's pretty unbelievable.

I'm curious -- how did Dez do on the wonderlic?

They're not supposed to release those scores, but I'm sure he and Mo have plenty in common and leave it at that.

 

[perrykemp]

They're not supposed to release those scores, but I'm sure he and Mo have plenty in common and leave it at that.

I looked it up and found:

Dez Bryant (Oklahoma State): 16

Seems ok for a WR. Eric Decker that year did score a 43 on the top end.

Mo's "4" means his brain barely has enough computing power to operate his lungs, eyelids, etc etc....and other essential functions...

 

[dcstands4]

According to several people, Dez is too dumb to be put in motion. Who knows the real reason, though? Our coaching is strange at times.

this is it, its been also said on cowboys radio as well, they dont want to confuse him

 

[BigStar]

Every receiver and tight end, plus the backs, are sent in motion. Except Dez. They don't even line him up in the slot much.

At Okie State, the coaches had Dez line up on their side of the field only so they could talk to him before the plays.

I just don't think coaches trust him to read plays at the line. Hey, it's working, because he's having a good year. Leave it as is, I suppose.

I wasn't aware of that as well....wouldn't the opposing corners make the same adjustments if they are in earshot? Joking..used code words, etc. I'm sure. I've seen the college O's where the coach basically baby sits the QB until the snap (QB in shotgun looking directly at the coach until near the snap). Dez has matured immensely since then (hope) and would be willing to learn the fundamentals moreso since OK I would imagine. I can understand having hesitation with a player like that but what other weapons even closely resemble Dez on our O? Maybe Romo when healthy (winging it everywhere, not just
JW) and TW eventually (consistently).

 

[erod]

I wasn't aware of that as well....wouldn't the opposing corners make the same adjustments if they are in earshot? Joking..used code words, etc. I'm sure. I've seen the college O's where the coach basically baby sits the QB until the snap (QB in shotgun looking directly at the coach until near the snap). Dez has matured immensely since then (hope) and would be willing to learn the fundamentals moreso since OK I would imagine. I can understand having hesitation with a player like that but what other weapons even closely resemble Dez on our O? Maybe Romo when healthy (winging it everywhere, not just
JW) and TW eventually (consistently).

Dez appears to have a great relationship and respect for Romo, and it's productive, so they should just leave it alone right now.

Plus, Williams and Beasley are contributing greatly, and hopefully Austin can join Witten soon.

 

[BigStar]

Dez appears to have a great relationship and respect for Romo, and it's productive, so they should just leave it alone right now.

Plus, Williams and Beasley are contributing greatly, and hopefully Austin can join Witten soon.

I do hear you 100% but the problem is it looks like this O will remain stagnant until we start getting creative with motion, bunch formations, etc. It's had for me to not want to drive the Offense through Dez personally, will admit that. But if is the most production we can expect from Dez until his role is expanded, more motion, pick plays, etc. need to be introduced for Beasley and TWill as well.