Why is Jerry destroying his Legacy?

[Ranching]

Jimmy was the help, and the primary reason we won those SBs. Jerry just couldn’t help himself and now neither can his clown son.

Jerry also dished out the money to sign the players and coaches that Jimmy wanted..Jimmy went to Miami, the owner didn't want to spend the money and what happened. Even Marino couldn't help him.
Coaching is a team effort. A HC can't do it all by himself.

 

[Ranching]

Jimmy was the help, and the primary reason we won those SBs. Jerry just couldn’t help himself and now neither can his clown son.

To be clear, I respect Jimmy very much and appreciate what he did. But, it's been 28 years. Let it go.

 

[Sydla]

Jerry also dished out the money to sign the players and coaches that Jimmy wanted..Jimmy went to Miami, the owner didn't want to spend the money and what happened. Even Marino couldn't help him.
Coaching is a team effort. A HC can't do it all by himself.

Pretty much every owner that has won a SB has dished out the money to sign players and coaches.

The difference here is that most other owners understand their limitations and hire people to help them win a SB. Jerry and his son have decided their football knowledge is vast enough that they don't need a GM to handle the football operations. They had that in Jimmy, as he was part GM and the HC.

But Jerry was jealous of the hype Jimmy got and credit bestowed on him for those 90s teams. Hiring Barry Switzer was the first step in Jerry trying to prove to everyone he was the guy, not Jimmy. But once those Jimmy Johnson teams fell apart due to age, introduction of the cap, etc. Jerry has basically wandered in purgatory as the mind behind the football operations.

He needs a Jimmy Johnson type - either as a HC who can convince him what to do on personnel or a GM that can handle the day to day operations. And no, McClay isn't that guy. He's just a super scout. What Jerry needs is a guy who is loud enough and forcible enough to tell him he's screwing the pooch and needs to do this instead. Jerry is too insecure to hire that kind of guy.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry also dished out the money to sign the players and coaches that Jimmy wanted..Jimmy went to Miami, the owner didn't want to spend the money and what happened. Even Marino couldn't help him.
Coaching is a team effort. A HC can't do it all by himself.

This is correct. Jethro deserves credit for giving Jimmy total player personnel control and then providing him whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately Jethro didn’t appreciate Jimmy getting all the credit becoming the face of his franchise .

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jimmy was the help, and the primary reason we won those SBs. Jerry just couldn’t help himself and now neither can his clown son.

Certainly could not have happened without Jimmy, Brandt, or Ciskowski.

 

[Diehardblues]

Pretty much every owner that has won a SB has dished out the money to sign players and coaches.

The difference here is that most other owners understand their limitations and hire people to help them win a SB. Jerry and his son have decided their football knowledge is vast enough that they don't need a GM to handle the football operations. They had that in Jimmy, as he was part GM and the HC.

But Jerry was jealous of the hype Jimmy got and credit bestowed on him for those 90s teams. Hiring Barry Switzer was the first step in Jerry trying to prove to everyone he was the guy, not Jimmy. But once those Jimmy Johnson teams fell apart due to age, introduction of the cap, etc. Jerry has basically wandered in purgatory as the mind behind the football operations.

He needs a Jimmy Johnson type - either as a HC who can convince him what to do on personnel or a GM that can handle the day to day operations. And no, McClay isn't that guy. He's just a super scout. What Jerry needs is a guy who is loud enough and forcible enough to tell him he's screwing the pooch and needs to do this instead. Jerry is too insecure to hire that kind of guy.

That’s a big part of it but it goes much deeper and personal with Jethro.

Winning championships isn’t enough unless he’s the man and face of our franchise.

He’s not even willing to officially give his own flesh and blood that recognition.

 

[Ranching]

Pretty much every owner that has won a SB has dished out the money to sign players and coaches.

The difference here is that most other owners understand their limitations and hire people to help them win a SB. Jerry and his son have decided their football knowledge is vast enough that they don't need a GM to handle the football operations. They had that in Jimmy, as he was part GM and the HC.

But Jerry was jealous of the hype Jimmy got and credit bestowed on him for those 90s teams. Hiring Barry Switzer was the first step in Jerry trying to prove to everyone he was the guy, not Jimmy. But once those Jimmy Johnson teams fell apart due to age, introduction of the cap, etc. Jerry has basically wandered in purgatory as the mind behind the football operations.

He needs a Jimmy Johnson type - either as a HC who can convince him what to do on personnel or a GM that can handle the day to day operations. And no, McClay isn't that guy. He's just a super scout. What Jerry needs is a guy who is loud enough and forcible enough to tell him he's screwing the pooch and needs to do this instead. Jerry is too insecure to hire that kind of guy.

Blah, blah; blah....I know all that. The fact remains.....Jimmy has been gone for 28 years and we're stuck with jerry....all i can do is roll with it and don't let it aggravate me....so, I don't...you want to get worked up over something you can't control, have at it.

 

[Ranching]

This is correct. Jethro deserves credit for giving Jimmy total player personnel control and then providing him whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately Jethro didn’t appreciate Jimmy getting all the credit becoming the face of his franchise .

He also didn't appreciate Jimmy.making fun of him in public at an owner's meeting. I would have fired him for that, too

 

[rambo2]

LOL.

So wait, the poster who says only last season matters when talking about who is the better franchise between us and Philly right now, wants to now use SBs won 3 decades ago.............. the hypocrisy is awesome.

But I get it. When charged with having to defend Jerry and his stewardship of the Cowboys post Jimmy Johnson, you are gonna have to play fast and loose with logic and facts.

Here's the reality that any sane fan understands. The Cowboys have been a postseason failure for 28 years. Teams and franchises are defined by SB and SB wins. And when a team goes nearly a decade with only 5 total playoff wins, trying to argue they are a great franchise, well run and highly success is an exercise in gaslighting.

The Chiefs went 5 decades without a Super Bowl win. Keep shooting your mouth off. The Cowboys are still a good team.

 

[rambo2]

Yes they have 3 fixing to be 4 over 12 win seasons in a row ......... and a Super Bowl win this year.

I predict Dak [the goat] Prescott will be a 5 time SB Champ and MVP within 5 years!

WOOOOOO Lets GO!

Haters choke on their own Bile!!!!!!

That would be outstanding.

 

[Diehardblues]

He also didn't appreciate Jimmy.making fun of him in public at an owner's meeting. I would have fired him for that, too

Too???

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He also didn't appreciate Jimmy.making fun of him in public at an owner's meeting. I would have fired him for that, too

There is no question that Jimmy as doing everything to get fired. He wanted to still get paid and wouldn't if he quit

 

[starfan1]

Pretty much every owner that has won a SB has dished out the money to sign players and coaches.

The difference here is that most other owners understand their limitations and hire people to help them win a SB. Jerry and his son have decided their football knowledge is vast enough that they don't need a GM to handle the football operations. They had that in Jimmy, as he was part GM and the HC.

But Jerry was jealous of the hype Jimmy got and credit bestowed on him for those 90s teams. Hiring Barry Switzer was the first step in Jerry trying to prove to everyone he was the guy, not Jimmy. But once those Jimmy Johnson teams fell apart due to age, introduction of the cap, etc. Jerry has basically wandered in purgatory as the mind behind the football operations.

He needs a Jimmy Johnson type - either as a HC who can convince him what to do on personnel or a GM that can handle the day to day operations. And no, McClay isn't that guy. He's just a super scout. What Jerry needs is a guy who is loud enough and forcible enough to tell him he's screwing the pooch and needs to do this instead. Jerry is too insecure to hire that kind of guy.

a hershel walker type trade wouldnt hurt things either

 

[fivetwos]

Pretty much every owner that has won a SB has dished out the money to sign players and coaches.

The difference here is that most other owners understand their limitations and hire people to help them win a SB. Jerry and his son have decided their football knowledge is vast enough that they don't need a GM to handle the football operations. They had that in Jimmy, as he was part GM and the HC.

But Jerry was jealous of the hype Jimmy got and credit bestowed on him for those 90s teams. Hiring Barry Switzer was the first step in Jerry trying to prove to everyone he was the guy, not Jimmy. But once those Jimmy Johnson teams fell apart due to age, introduction of the cap, etc. Jerry has basically wandered in purgatory as the mind behind the football operations.

He needs a Jimmy Johnson type - either as a HC who can convince him what to do on personnel or a GM that can handle the day to day operations. And no, McClay isn't that guy. He's just a super scout. What Jerry needs is a guy who is loud enough and forcible enough to tell him he's screwing the pooch and needs to do this instead. Jerry is too insecure to hire that kind of guy.

Fully agree until the final sentence. Maybe its insecurity but I’d say it’s more along the lines of he doesn’t think he needs it, or thinks he has that already in the kid.

 

[kskboys]

Not true


Do not understand who you are talking about here ..... traded down instead of drafting Stephen Jones????



I mean this never happened. Emmitt left because Bill would not let them play dominoes in the training room, and would not let them bring their personal massage chicks in , AND he was due a huge payment in his contract that Jerry did not want to pay.

We traded down w/ CLEV who wanted a QB instead of taking Stephen Jones, and then took Julius Jones in the 2nd round. The pick the next year was for Marcus Spears.

Yes true.

No point in arguing about the different stories as to why Emmit left.

 

[kskboys]

Jimmy carried Jerry and Jerry knows it. Everyone new it. That is why he made the dumb decisions he made and it took him almost 30 years to admit it.

IF he has even admitted it.

 

[kskboys]

To be clear, I respect Jimmy very much and appreciate what he did. But, it's been 28 years. Let it go.

The ones who need to let it go are the ones claiming Jerry is doing a good job due to that success over 28 years ago. Agree, they should let it go.

 

[kskboys]

The Chiefs went 5 decades without a Super Bowl win. Keep shooting your mouth off. The Cowboys are still a good team.

Yes, they are. However, now they need a competent GM to acquire the players that would put us over the top. Out GM is putrid. If Jerry takes Kobie Turner instead of a frickin' TE in the 2nd, the GB game is an entirely different game.

 

[Ranching]

The ones who need to let it go are the ones claiming Jerry is doing a good job due to that success over 28 years ago. Agree, they should let it go.

I never said he was doing a good job, but he's still here and Jimmy is not....so, who am I gonna root for?

 

[kskboys]

I never said he was doing a good job, but he's still here and Jimmy is not....so, who am I gonna root for?

The Cowboys, duh, but don't see how that's relevant to this discussion.