Why is Jerry destroying his Legacy?

[Ranching]

Can't figure this guy out .... at all.

28 years of not making the NFCCG puts us with Deadskins as the only 2 teams in the NFL in that category of futility.

I know the money is flowing in, but is that how Jerry wants to be remembered ?

I mean he has has enough money to last a 1000 lifetimes, doesn't he want to be remembered as a winner?

How hard would it be to hire a professional GM and see if that can't turn things around ?

I wonder if Jerry has any sense of mortality?

Then you got the whole "ALL IN" comments, then he sits on his hands this off season.

I don't have anything personally against the man, I just hate that he is destroying the team I have loved my whole life.

I can't remember being this discouraged in an off season.

McClay is the GM. Jerry just has the title. I don't get some of you guys... we constantly have one of the best rosters in the league. Jeezus. Thus place is assinine

 

[john van brocklin]

His 3 Lombardi legacy is long forgotten. Jerry is solidifying his legacy of fielding a soft team that can't win when it counts most.

Exactly !
In a culture of : what have you done lately, he gonna be remembered for the 28 plus years of futility.

 

[john van brocklin]

McClay is the GM. Jerry just has the title. I don't get some of you guys... we constantly have one of the best rosters in the league. Jeezus. Thus place is assinine

Ranch, we want to win in the playoffs !
Is that asking too much ?
28 straight years of no NFCCG !
30 other teams have made it, it's just us and the deadskins now.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Charlotte Jones does, or used to do, an interview every year with David Moore on his Ticket show. She's said on there that she is dumbfounded that more people don't give her dad credit for the business success of the Cowboys. She truly can't understand how more people don't appreciate that he took a team losing a million dollars a month and made it into the most valuable and profitable team in the league.

Charlotte went to business school at Wharton IIRC (or similar prestigious school) and that's how these people think. To them it's a brand and a business, not a football team.

TLDR version: Don't care, still #1 on the Forbes list by a mile.

 

[Bullflop]

The very word legacy means it can't be taken away literally everybody knows who he is everybody knows his success he had early on they don't take lombardis from him they don't expire and this is all nonsense Jimmy Johnson would have never been here had he not had a relationship with Jerry Jones Jerry bought the team Jerry founded the team he hired Jimmy to do just that and it worked out well for both of them but once they split apart neither had the same success I mean you act like bill Parcells or these people that came through here like Jimmy Johnson and somehow when they left continued their success and showed how much better they were without Jerry Jones meddling..

Seriously I don't have time for this I got a busy Monday here in the HVAC world but I could tell you this let's go back to those 90s you remember that team that went to four straight Super Bowls the Buffalo Bills yeah what happened to them ohh that's right they still haven't won a Super Bowl I don't think they've been back to a Super Bowl and I think they've only been to one AFC championship game and all that time all these teams for all 32 teams have yet to catch up and go past the 90s teams that Jimmy and Jerry built but without Jerry they were never been a Jimmy in the NFL I almost guarantee it... Let me drop this I don't know what you want to call it just my view and perception of what would happen Jimmy Johnson would not have stayed past the time where the rest of his players where retiring and getting injured and leaving the team therefore with a lot of proof like bill parcels, Jimmy doesn't stay in one place very long, need for new challenge etc, jimmy Johnson would not have won anymore then we did when we continued with his team and Switzer got the last one.. I know the breakup looms large and all the dreamers think this would have been closer tot he NE run but it wouldn't have Troy , ike and ES all got old quick and the end was near.. the writing was on the wall and Jimmy would have left around the same time frame as the last SB IMHO.

so in my humble opinion, this would happen the same way, regardless of the breakup or not.

But even if there was they would not have the same success you cannot go back in time and try to recreate a scenario in which the blueprint can work like it did especially with the Herschel Walker trade and all that other stuff that would not have happened with another team...

They work very well together but since 1989 let me keep reminding folks how the NFL Jerry Jones and that Dallas Cowboys team have three titles since 1989 and since that time only the New England Patriots and the Kansas City Chiefs have three or more that's it and the Dallas Cowboys have never moved off their third all time in Super Bowl wins because again it it's not that easy this is a circle eventually it will come back but teams like the Kansas City Chiefs took 52 years to get back to a Super Bowl not 28 and I realized the NFC championship game thing is gonna come because of the drought because you are trying to find ways to make this a big deal about Jerry and the way he's a GM but all these other GM struggle to beat the Dallas Cowboys especially in the regular season literally the Dallas Cowboys are one of the top regular season teams even since the year 2000 when all this mess started, I think they're like 11 all time but in the last 10 years they were top 6IN winning percentage and I'm betting the last three years we're top five in regular season win percentage and it could be much worse than being in the playoffs 5 in the last eight years somehow his inept and senile ways he's tripped into beating a whole bunch of regularly developed structured teams in the NFL you know with a real GM and an owner who doesn't get involved and blah blah blah...

Don't get me wrong early on did make a lot of mistakes,

the man has now 35 years experience running a professional football team he's been around a lot of successful football coaches and GM's he stepped back a lot the last five years and really if you look at what's happened the last three years they've been now the most consistent winning that we've had since the 90s he's allowed his people below him to make most of the decisions now he's just a mouthpiece he likes to talk he likes the attention he gets being able to discuss and be very prideful of the Dallas Cowboys..

Jerry just isn't the "football guy" that he pretends to be -- anyone who has followed the Cowboys since their glory days knows better than that. He's been a failure as a GM on the football end of things. That's been proven for the last 30 years of non-relevance as a championship team. When it comes to excellence as a provider of quality management as a "football guy" he has failed miserably. That cannot be denied by even the most casual of observers. Jerry would be well-advised to relinquish his claim to the title of GM to someone with far keener football insights. Denying that is blind. Parcells learned that in time and his decision to leave was well thought out.

 

[kskboys]

Can't figure this guy out .... at all.

28 years of not making the NFCCG puts us with Deadskins as the only 2 teams in the NFL in that category of futility.

I know the money is flowing in, but is that how Jerry wants to be remembered ?

I mean he has has enough money to last a 1000 lifetimes, doesn't he want to be remembered as a winner?

How hard would it be to hire a professional GM and see if that can't turn things around ?

I wonder if Jerry has any sense of mortality?

Then you got the whole "ALL IN" comments, then he sits on his hands this off season.

I don't have anything personally against the man, I just hate that he is destroying the team I have loved my whole life.

I can't remember being this discouraged in an off season.

Because Jerry is an extreme egoist.

You have to consider, rich dudes like Jerry are protected, they don't run around w/ regular people who would tell him what a complete and utter fool he has made of himself. His buddies compliment him and then laugh behind his back.

 

[kskboys]

His legacy is his bank account. If he was interested in winning he would have hired a GM decades ago. It's mind boggling that some need this communicated with stick figure drawings or a puppet show.

It's even more mind boggling when people claim Jerry wants to win. Jerry wants his ego stroked, self-aggrandizement. He knows he's a bad GM and has admitted so publicly, along w/ admitting that he doesn't even watch the tape of incoming draftees. This is quite simple not what one does who "wants to win".

 

[Crazed Liotta Eyes]

how about this you let me post however long it is if you dont want to read it don't even reply to me.. just dont acknowledge it..

Sorry bro. Going through a bit of a hard time and lashing out. Totally uncalled for. Please ignore.

 

[Ranching]

Ranch, we want to win in the playoffs !
Is that asking too much ?
28 straight years of no NFCCG !
30 other teams have made it, it's just us and the deadskins now.

You don't I think I want to win....beating a dear horse around here day in and day out isn't accomplishing ANYTHING except creating a divide between fans.
...it's pathetic. We've all heard it 1,000 times. Don't you get tired of it......but Hey, keep stoking that fire, maybe Jerry will read one of these threads and step down.

 

[visionary]

Yeah these are some of the most ridiculous comments ever he has no football acumen the dude was on a national championship team he actually played football in college I know it wasn't big time college but it was Arkansas it was with Jimmy Johnson this would have never happened without Jerry Jones he has three titles on his own Tom Landry and bum bright whoever else that management was had two titles in the same span yeah they won a lot of games but they also lost big games the Pittsburgh Steelers own them they made mistakes you remember the catch game I mean listen the other ownership wasn't that much better it's about titles right Jerry has three the other regime had two if my math is right....

Jerry's already got a Hall of Fame jacket but he knows something about football why because he played, I guarantee high school and college football at a higher level than you or anybody in here you show me all the professionals in here, because if not Jerry's resume says he has a national championship ring from college football regardless of how much of A player he was or not he played football he bought this team because of his passion for football, ohh and by the way you think being around football people for the last 35 years here in the professionals at all ranks that work for him and under him that he's picked up nothing ?? he's learned no on the job training at all??

the man knows nothing about football is what you're saying, dude take that nonsense out of here I'm sick of it you can't know nothing about football if you played high level football in high school and college is that on the team, and not just an owner in the background at GM who is very close to the operations on a daily basis you're saying these are nothing the dude knows more about football than anybody in here, I guarantee it just because you think he wants to be a coach and doesn't coach that he wants to medal, no the dude's a talker, he likes publicity the man has a big ego and lots of billionaires have big egos...

I don't want to hear this anymore don't tell me about he has no football acumen when the man has done more than I've been anybody else in here and I know there's a few coaches and people who played high school football and some that may have been decent college football players but show me the list of people in here that discuss Cowboys football that have a national championship ring from college and that's lived in the daily operations of a professional football team around football people for 35 years you show me anybody in here that's done that?​

It's rhetorical because I bet you can't...

He may not be the best GM that does crazy things like Howie Roseman but he's put together and been around plenty of championship teams and he's kept this team winning games enough that he's so relative that the league continues to give the Dallas Cowboys all the primetime games they can Max out on, it's made social media make sure they mention the Dallas Cowboys and all their content, and all the sport shows don't go a day without mentioning the Dallas Cowboys, regardless of how you feel about that Jerry still has a winning product on the field if the last three years doesn't show that we're a top six team, you know 36 wins ,two division titles against Howie Roseman and his awesome Eagles team that goes All in all the time ,but doesn't have much to show for, and add five playoff appearances in the last eight years..

So,

whatever Jerry doesn't know he definitely has people under him that know and by the way he's not the GM anymore and he hasn't been he's been a GM by title for quite a while guys like will McClay & a committee of very smart people work for him.. he's a businessman, he knows how to put together management in layers and layers of people who are smarter than him at certain things he doesn't know... if you don't think you could build a business that is how you build the corporation and that's how he's built the Cowboys.

And I get it we want more we want an NFC championship game appearance, we want another Super Bowl ,but don't act like Jerry Jones knows nothing about football and has the Cowboys sucking every year because they don't they're better than about 28 other teams in this league because all those teams with these great football people are not even beating the Dallas Cowboys on a regular basis and that includes the Eagles everybody slobbers over, all the moves and how active the Howie Roseman is and by the way go check out the Kansas City Chiefs you by the way beat it Eagles and the 49ers, who have been all in for quite some time and can't seem to get past the team that's done less and less every year ,

the Kansas City Chiefs have made less moves than the Dallas Cowboys that's a fact they pretty much run it NFL team very much like the Dallas Cowboys and most other teams in the NFL if you think all teams do what the Rams only did once do what the Eagles seem to try to do and the 49ers everybody else runs their team with less risk they're not gambling they're not going all in so all this nonsense about Jerry just not knowing anything about football and that's why the Cowboys are just about money hasn't been watching.. Go look at their regular season win percentage you can't not know what you're doing and put together a top six team in the NFL, who's had some of their best success since the 90s the last five years.

Don't get me wrong I'm not putting Jerry in like top management GM ownership type but he for sure deserves some more respect than he gets in here, I for sure putting him in the top ten because our team outside of the lack of playoff success has remained relative and that's because they're still winning, they're not just over marketing a bad team... Yes they fell short but it could be much worse we could be one of those teams like the Cleveland Browns who haven't even won a division title since 1989,

so let's get over all this other nonsense about him not having football acumen because I guarantee he does,

his ego may keep him from giving people credit where credit is due and it may cause some problems but he no longer medals in the everyday operations of coaching he listens to his people he lets people draft who they want for the most part I mean we have proof of that he wanted Johnny Manziel and didn't get him that's just one example of many,

so let's just get over it he's not perfect he's not the best but he deserves more respect than people sit here and mutter out there very amateurish mails you know nothing on the level that he does you let me know when you get a $10 billion team and have it since 1989 and have a Hall of Fame jacket have a national championship ring and three Super Bowl titles along with the fact that he's kept the team in the top 10 in winning percentage in the regular season but we're right now on top five lately there's 32 teams in the league saying Jerry doesn't know anything about football somebody always staying ahead of those normal GM's and teams and ownership somehow he's remained at least good enough to be better than them...

Jerry is a piece of crap
Absolute garbage
Complete trash

 

[kskboys]

Sorry bro. Going through a bit of a hard time and lashing out. Totally uncalled for. Please ignore.

It's the eyes.

 

[visionary]

You don't I think I want to win....beating a dear horse around here day in and day out isn't accomplishing ANYTHING except creating a divide between fans.
...it's pathetic. We've all heard it 1,000 times. Don't you get tired of it......but Hey, keep stoking that fire, maybe Jerry will read one of these threads and step down.

Was Garrett “reading this thread” when both you and I railed against him?

Not a matter of “getting tired”, its about speaking your mind and what you think is actually the fact

Simple

IMO Jerry is directly responsible for the lack of playoff success for this franchise in the last 30 years

Simple

 

[kskboys]

You don't I think I want to win....beating a dear horse around here day in and day out isn't accomplishing ANYTHING except creating a divide between fans.
...it's pathetic. We've all heard it 1,000 times. Don't you get tired of it......but Hey, keep stoking that fire, maybe Jerry will read one of these threads and step down.

We've heard what you're saying way more than 1,000 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Complaining about what people post creates a much bigger divide than complaining about Jerry.

 

[JW82]

The most maddening part of the Jerry disaster is for 5 years he was the best owner in sports and all he had to do was stay the $&$& out of Jimmy's way! But instead we've had 28 years of being a punchline because of the man-child/rich guys fragile, entitled ego!

 

[john van brocklin]

You don't I think I want to win....beating a dear horse around here day in and day out isn't accomplishing ANYTHING except creating a divide between fans.
...it's pathetic. We've all heard it 1,000 times. Don't you get tired of it......but Hey, keep stoking that fire, maybe Jerry will read one of these threads and step down.

Ranch, if I can't vent here on a Cowboys forum, where else can I my friend?

 

[Ranching]

Was Garrett “reading this thread” when both you and I railed against him?

Not a matter of “getting tired”, its about speaking your mind and what you think is actually the fact

Simple

IMO Jerry is directly responsible forp the lack of playoff success for this franchise in the last 30 years

Simple

My Garrett hate was a joke and anyone with half a brain knew that. And, I never rooted against him.
Garrett Sucks!

 

[Forneymike]

Ranch, we want to win in the playoffs !
Is that asking too much ?
28 straight years of no NFCCG !
30 other teams have made it, it's just us and the deadskins now.

I want to win Super Bowls not just make Championship games.....that is mediocre...now do the number of teams that have won a Super Bowl in the last 30 years and how many didn't...that is the right stat...don't just pick an arbitrary stat and judge someone against it. No one remembers how many championship games were made and lost to help with their legacy....just means you still can't win the big one. Once you determine who has consistently won Super Bowls over the years, then see what was the thing that put them over the top.....

 

[Ranching]

We've heard what you're saying way more than 1,000 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Complaining about what people post creates a much bigger divide than complaining about Jerry.

Difference is I tell you directly, Jerry doesn't read this crap

 

[Ranching]

Ranch, if I can't vent here on a Cowboys forum, where else can I my friend?

Have at it. Salud!

 

[visionary]

I agree but he’s blurred the lines so much…he never really had a legacy as a GM. I think Jimmy gets credit for those teams. Maybe I’m off base there.

You “think”
LOL, not one single person who understands football gives Jerry any credit for those SBs
Not one
And Jerry knows it and it kills him but his money is more important

That’s actually why we will not have a real GM while he is alive, because what if (gasp) the Cowboys actually do better with the GM? Well, that will expose his ignorance even more

We are not getting a real GM until Jerry takes a dirt nap