zrinkill
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He wont be .......... and the new CBA will neuter him if he is.
No way the players will agree to give him unlimited power again.
Why is the NFL commiting Suicide?
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He wont be .......... and the new CBA will neuter him if he is.
No way the players will agree to give him unlimited power again.
zrinkill
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Nope.
Hayseed
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Dude. Really,.. just stop. Being miserable is not a good look,... even for you Fuzzy. Like Catch says,... fine..YOU WIN. You really arent worth arguing with to be honest. And Im not making up a single thing regarding YOU. Anyone who has EVER read you knows that you are miserable being you. Its THAT apparent. People like that arent exactly social magnets.
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Look at pro team sports for the past 100 years.
Essentially, the owners always hire a commissioner that will side with them instead of finding a commissioner that will do best for the sport (and really, the fans).
The owners felt that Tagliabue was too big of a pushover for the player's union, so they hired Goodell who is completely unqualified for the job. Goodell is not an attorney (most people mistakenly think he is). He came from the PR department and he has always tried to play the PR game with his decisions. The problem is that the PR game isn't always honest and when there's a distrust in authority...it never ends well.
Now the owners have started to turn against Goodell because of the countless blunders he has made. Goodell's response now is to try and get on the player's union's good side by sticking up for them in the Anthem protests. But that has resulted in ticking off the majority of the fans which has resulted in lower ratings, lower attendance, lower merchandise sales and regional TV advertising dollars being lost. Now you have a major advertiser in Papa John's that is none too happy with their decline in sales which has coincided with the Anthem protests.
Taglibue was not without his flaws, but he was willing to work with the players union and not completely screw them over and that led to a decent balance by pro sports standards. That's why I'm interested in the suggestion of Bill Polian as commissioner. He's a legitimate 'football guy' who has had success wherever he goes and has been thru the transition of the NFL instituting free agency and then the salary cap as well as the huge economic surge.
Having said that...this is what pro sports tend to do. It wasn't too long ago that MLB was the #1 sport in this country, by a long shot. And before that, it was boxing. Now they are completely shells of their former selves. The NFL, like MLB and boxing, is too arrogant to understand that they can be subject to the same pitfalls and I have a great admiration for Jerry understanding this and trying to get the league out of this crap before it's too late...unfortunately he may not be enough to overcome the Rooney's, Hunt's, Blank's and Brown's of the world that still think this is going in a good direction.
YR
Essentially, the owners always hire a commissioner that will side with them instead of finding a commissioner that will do best for the sport (and really, the fans).
The owners felt that Tagliabue was too big of a pushover for the player's union, so they hired Goodell who is completely unqualified for the job. Goodell is not an attorney (most people mistakenly think he is). He came from the PR department and he has always tried to play the PR game with his decisions. The problem is that the PR game isn't always honest and when there's a distrust in authority...it never ends well.
Now the owners have started to turn against Goodell because of the countless blunders he has made. Goodell's response now is to try and get on the player's union's good side by sticking up for them in the Anthem protests. But that has resulted in ticking off the majority of the fans which has resulted in lower ratings, lower attendance, lower merchandise sales and regional TV advertising dollars being lost. Now you have a major advertiser in Papa John's that is none too happy with their decline in sales which has coincided with the Anthem protests.
Taglibue was not without his flaws, but he was willing to work with the players union and not completely screw them over and that led to a decent balance by pro sports standards. That's why I'm interested in the suggestion of Bill Polian as commissioner. He's a legitimate 'football guy' who has had success wherever he goes and has been thru the transition of the NFL instituting free agency and then the salary cap as well as the huge economic surge.
Having said that...this is what pro sports tend to do. It wasn't too long ago that MLB was the #1 sport in this country, by a long shot. And before that, it was boxing. Now they are completely shells of their former selves. The NFL, like MLB and boxing, is too arrogant to understand that they can be subject to the same pitfalls and I have a great admiration for Jerry understanding this and trying to get the league out of this crap before it's too late...unfortunately he may not be enough to overcome the Rooney's, Hunt's, Blank's and Brown's of the world that still think this is going in a good direction.
YR
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A huge nope. I will not watch scab football, never again.
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Is this supposed to be irony? You really are not taking the aging thing very well at all. Would you like to talk about it as opposed to these mindless flails?
Meanwhile society will continue on.
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All this crap will be forgotten about in 2 years.
I don't know. It's been a steady decline in interest for me over the past few years and it has nothing to do with protests or situation's like Elliott's. It the on field product. Instant replay has sucked the fun out of it for myself, I never know if a play will stand or be overturned, so I get no excitement from scores or big plays.
Used to be I'd start watching at noon and a game would be on all day and the Sunday night game too. Now, I still watch the Cowboys but that's it. I think a lot of fans are doing the same, watching their favorite team but don't care about any others.
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Yea I wouldn't count on that. The league's been going down for years now. There will be a new scandal next year. There always is.
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There really aren't that many great games on Sundays anymore. The best games are usually Sunday Night. Mondays and Thursdays are awful. Used to be great games all day.
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I have Commanders fans for friends who say they stopped watching the games and listened on the radio when the Skins took a knee; recently, they are overjoyed to be watching again, but say they only returned when the Skins players stopped kneeling. While some of us don't understand that line of thinking (I don't think I could ever not watch the Cowboys over a political or social issue), I don't think the media has even touched the surface of just how seriously most people, especially football fans, take that whole thing.
The rest of the league and nation doesn't really give a crap about the Zeke issue, but they are infuriated that guys making the money these players are making would kneel during the anthem. Jerry is right on the money in explaining to his players the financial consequences. Anything that hurts the league, hurts the players long before it will hurt the owners. The most shocking part to me is how furious many fans are about the kneeling before the anthem, like Dallas. Many fans see the players now as an extension of Hollywood, a bunch of entertainers, paid to do one thing, but pissing them off by making it political on TV. The rest of us don't have to agree; we can sit here and say the players should be involved in social issues and making their communities and the country a better place for all, but "By God, NOT on Sunday during the game."
I have no doubt that there's some agreement between the NFL and the Networks on the issue as well. You don't see nearly as many shots of what the guys are doing during the anthem, nor hear the announcers talking about it. Again, what hurts the NFL hurts the networks. This may seem like a minor issue to me because I don't really give a crap and don't usually even watch the anthem or pay attention if it's on before the game or not. On game day, all I care about is watching the game. I can overlook suspensions and politics and spoiled players, but I likewise don't pay too much attention to the feel good stories about the good they are doing in their communities....big whoop. Lots of people without the money or the time volunteer all the time. Again, I just sit down to watch my Cowboys play football on Sunday, BUT.......it's a big deal to a helluva lot of people, more than you think.
If even the casual observers, who aren't nearly as passionate as we who visit chat forums, etc, are, represent a large group of viewers every Sunday. They are the likely to turn away, and they alone are going to cost the league dearly.
The rest of the league and nation doesn't really give a crap about the Zeke issue, but they are infuriated that guys making the money these players are making would kneel during the anthem. Jerry is right on the money in explaining to his players the financial consequences. Anything that hurts the league, hurts the players long before it will hurt the owners. The most shocking part to me is how furious many fans are about the kneeling before the anthem, like Dallas. Many fans see the players now as an extension of Hollywood, a bunch of entertainers, paid to do one thing, but pissing them off by making it political on TV. The rest of us don't have to agree; we can sit here and say the players should be involved in social issues and making their communities and the country a better place for all, but "By God, NOT on Sunday during the game."
I have no doubt that there's some agreement between the NFL and the Networks on the issue as well. You don't see nearly as many shots of what the guys are doing during the anthem, nor hear the announcers talking about it. Again, what hurts the NFL hurts the networks. This may seem like a minor issue to me because I don't really give a crap and don't usually even watch the anthem or pay attention if it's on before the game or not. On game day, all I care about is watching the game. I can overlook suspensions and politics and spoiled players, but I likewise don't pay too much attention to the feel good stories about the good they are doing in their communities....big whoop. Lots of people without the money or the time volunteer all the time. Again, I just sit down to watch my Cowboys play football on Sunday, BUT.......it's a big deal to a helluva lot of people, more than you think.
If even the casual observers, who aren't nearly as passionate as we who visit chat forums, etc, are, represent a large group of viewers every Sunday. They are the likely to turn away, and they alone are going to cost the league dearly.
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The NFL will not be dethroned by any pro sport. The NBA? A lot of people are turned off right now because of the Super Team Era. If MLB starts permanently juicing balls then maybe they can reach the popularity of the 90's but because most of their season is during the summer months, it's hard to get people to care for 162 games.
The gap may close a little bit in the next 10 years but the NFL will still be tops, like going from:
NFL
NBA
MLB
to:
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MLB
The gap may close a little bit in the next 10 years but the NFL will still be tops, like going from:
NFL
NBA
MLB
to:
NFL
NBA
MLB
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What happenned to ancient Rome?
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I love football, always will, but it has been an odd season for me. I just don't feel as excited as I used to get. There are a few things in play for me here as to why. For starters, the Zeke witch hunt. This is a ridiculous case. I mean this genuinely without homerism. The anthem protest took some wind out of my sails too. Mostly because I'm tired of hearing about it. The last part is the refereeing . It's terrible. Anytime a big play happens I just wait for a flag. I've watched flag after flag on drives. It gets old and slows the game down. Let these guys play and be fair across the board. Still waiting for a holding call for Dallas's defensive line.
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Exactly. Same thing that happened to Victorian Era England. What were once both gigantic empires shrunk down to diddly squat. Those were horrible analogies on Fuzzys part. In his lust to stir the pot he really didnt think it through.
