Why losing Austin MIGHT not be that bad...

[Gzus]

Austin is better than any of recievers you listed.

I'd have to disagree when it comes to Vincent Jackson, who I believe is as dominant asAustin. Austin can't jump as high and isn't as physical as Jackson, Austin's faster and shiftier. They're two different types of WRs, but I think they are about equal when it comes to talent.

 

[JBond]

So free agency starts tmr morning and we will be tendering Miles Austin a 1st & 3rd RFA tender which allows him to sign a deal with another team, while we get the right to match. There has been talk that a 1st and a 3rd will likely keep teams away and even if someone signs him to a deal Jerry will just match it.

I'm throwing out what could be a possibility: That someone signs him to a deal with a poison pill in it, something to the effect that he has his entire contract guaranteed if he plays more than 4 games in North Texas. Well that we couldn't match, Jerry would love to keep Austin but won't guarantee the entire contract of what could be a $30+ million deal. In this unfortunate case we would be letting Austin walk for a 1st and a 3rd, both are likely to be higher than our current 1st and 3rd.

But after getting our additional 1st and 3rd what are we to do? Well let's look at the WRs out there on the market right now:

Vincent Jackson RFA 1st & 3rd
Brandon Marshall RFA 1st
Anquan Boldin (probably would take a 1st rounder)
Malcom Floyd RFA 1st & 3rd

These are just the four off the top of my head to name a few. And just a note we'd be keeping the 1st & 3rd from the Austin deal, b/c any tender that goes unmatched is off of the team's original pick. So in the end if we were to sign for example, Vincent Jackson to a deal with a poison pill in it where if he played more than 4 games in the state of California in any single season his entire contract was guaranteed, then that would virtually guarantee us getting a #1 WR to replace Austin and in the end we'd basically have moved up in the draft.

In the end losing Austin may not be as bad as we all think it might be.... Just food for thought.

Listening to the radio this morning, they claimed all Arizona wants for Boldin is a 3rd. Not that I am a big fan of him but just throwing it out there.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I'd have to disagree when it comes to Vincent Jackson, who I believe is as dominant asAustin. Austin can't jump as high and isn't as physical as Jackson, Austin's faster and shiftier. They're two different types of WRs, but I think they are about equal when it comes to talent.

I'll take Miles over Vincient Jackson, thanks

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

bottom line is Romo & Austin have a connection and Jerry isn't going to let anyone come between that connection no matter what.. Sorry but it is just asinine to even have these situations pop into your head, you can forget all about it b/c he isn't going anywhere and Jerry has said since day 1 that his #1 goal is getting Miles a longterm deal & Jerry will get his guy

 

[Stash]

The scenario is using our picks to get a top notch WR to replace Austin through RFA tenders. So it wouldn't be RW11/Crayton, it'd be A proven WR#1/RW11, and you'd likely have higher picks in the range to get McClain.

I don't see where that's any sort of guarantee.

If we lose Austin, who's to say we could get one of the others?

And I don't think any of them offer the same explosiveness that Austin does.

 

[Gzus]

I'll take Miles over Vincient Jackson, thanks

Same here because he has a experience with Romo, but if our hand were forced into it I wouldn't be crying over having to settle for Vincent Jackson.

 

[elcowboi]

If the team who gives us their 1st and 3rd round pick is around 12 to 17 I will be ecstatic. I will immediately become a "Draft Rolando McClain *****" again. I will be okay with a WR with our 27th pick. I will be okay with OL in the 2nd and 3rd round. I will pimp Kevin Ogletree or the Drafted WR like a drunken monkey.

But I'd rather keep Miles.

Love the subliminal message:laugh2:

 

[Hostile]

Williams and Crayton as this team's starting receivers?

Hello 6-10.

In my opinion, it wouldn't matter if McClain turned Dallas into the best defense in the league, the offense would be anemic enough to shackle them and you'd have 'half a team".

Roy Williams' struggles are bad enough, losing the only real receiving threat on this team would be fatal.

I do not share people's opinions of Roy Williams. I also made another comment that you left out.

You also ignored where I talked about Drafting a WR with our pick. 6-10? Spare me.

 

[Gzus]

I don't see where that's any sort of guarantee.

If we lose Austin, who's to say we could get one of the others?

And I don't think any of them offer the same explosiveness that Austin does.

Poison Pill essentially guarantees you can get the player unless the original team is crazy enough to match it.

 

[Stash]

I do not share people's opinions of Roy Williams. I also made another comment that you left out.

You also ignored where I talked about Drafting a WR with our pick. 6-10? Spare me.

Consider yourself 'spared'.

You and Roy Williams.

 

[bbgun]

I don't like giving up a sure thing for a couple of question marks.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I'd have to disagree when it comes to Vincent Jackson, who I believe is as dominant asAustin. Austin can't jump as high and isn't as physical as Jackson, Austin's faster and shiftier. They're two different types of WRs, but I think they are about equal when it comes to talent.

lol what does jumping high have to do with anything, duh the guy is 6'5, while Miles is what, 6'2? I think the numbers this year tell you everything you need to know.

Vincent Jackson pretty much just broke out like Miles, dude had 1,000 yard season last year as well but just take a look at the numbers this season.. it's not even close, Miles beats him across the board in only 12 starts..

Jackson in 15 starts.... 68 receptions, 1167 yards, YAC 3.4, 9 TD's

Miles in 12 starts... 81 receptions, 1320 yards, YAC 6.9, 12 TD's

not even close, sorry.. I don't care how big Jackson is

 

[speedkilz88]

This poison pill stuff is bs. Miles isn't going anywhere.

 

[Jon88]

I think we should try losing Demarcus Ware too.

 

[Hostile]

Consider yourself 'spared'.

You and Roy Williams.

I can't speak for Roy, but I am more relieved than if I escaped old sparky.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Poison Pill essentially guarantees you can get the player unless the original team is crazy enough to match it.

First, the player has to accept the contract, so they would probably want bank. Second, you are assuming that no other teams are bidding on said players services.

There are no guarantees in your scenario other then we lose a young breakout player that has established a rapport with Romo.

 

[theebs]

wow, nothing to respond to that with.

I thought it was a thread from last spring where most of the naive were running around saying send him for a two because he sucks.

Yet, there are still these people out there. AMazing.

Do people understand that it takes more than talent and ability to win in this league. Does anyone understand that the third element is the relationship amongst players?

and having said that, do people realize how good the relationship between austin and romo is football and non football? You cant just plug in some name and create that. Those are the little things that winning teams, championship teams have.

Yet, this phony talk about a 1st and 3rd. All this time to develop austin and it has worked perfectly, why in the world would you start over.

We need to keep austin at all costs and add another austin.

 

[Randy White]

think we need to worry too much about losing Miles anytime soon.

I keep telling people that they need to learn how to read Jerrah's moves beyond of that they are. There's a reason why the Cowboys didn't franchise Miles, instead putting a 1st and 3rd tender on him. That reason is that this is not like any other year in free agency, despite not having a cap.

Jerrah has read the market brilliantly. Teams are not going to be signing many big contracts in this environment. Although I highly doubt there will be a lockout next season ( I believe the situation will be resolved before that happens ) NFL teams, for the most part, are conservative by nature and since they don't know, or can't count, on how sponsorship money is going to be next season, nor the threat of the lockout has been eliminated, they're not going to be going out on a spending spree anytime soon.

Not to mention that it would look pretty bad on their part to cry poverty to the players during the CBA negotations while giving them big contracts at the same time.

If anything, teams will be going the opposite way. Draft picks are going to become more valuable than ever ( I'm no Nostradamus, but I don't forsee many trades in the first couple of rounds in this year's draft ) and teams are going to want to hang on to them more than ever. Especially draft picks in the 3rd - 5th round range because they represent cheap players with little guranteed money that they'd have to pay in case they do lockout.

Now, imo, this market could be a bonanza for the owner, or couple of owners, who have deep pockets and are forward thinkers. They can sign very good players who are still relatively young ( late 20's ) to more friendlier than usual contracts ( since there's not going to be much competition for their services ) and even if they end up eating a portion of their guaranteed money IF there's a lockout eventually, once the games resume, their team(s) would be in better position to win the SB than most.

But, that's just my opinion and I don't know if anybody in the NFL fits that description right now.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

lol what does jumping high have to do with anything, duh the guy is 6'5, while Miles is what, 6'2? I think the numbers this year tell you everything you need to know.

Vincent Jackson pretty much just broke out like Miles, dude had 1,000 yard season last year as well but just take a look at the numbers this season.. it's not even close, Miles beats him across the board in only 12 starts..

Jackson in 15 starts.... 68 receptions, 1167 yards, YAC 3.4, 9 TD's

Miles in 12 starts... 81 receptions, 1320 yards, YAC 6.9, 12 TD's

not even close, sorry.. I don't care how big Jackson is

oh and by the way forgot to add both Marshall & Jackson are really beyond silly off the field. Vincent Jackson will most likely be handed a suspension for the first couple games of the 2010 season b/c of his 2nd DUI offense.. but yeah you can go ahead and grab him in your own fantasy GM world, when we already have it just fine here with a high character guy and team guy in Miles , plus a guy who is just as good

 

[Dhragon]

Poison Pill essentially guarantees you can get the player unless the original team is crazy enough to match it.

Have you all forgotten that Miles would have to go along with this imaginary "poison pill" for it to work? Any team offering a F/A contract to Mileshas to have him agree to it. If he declines, it doesn't matter what he was offerred.

Basically, Miles would have to WANT to leave Dallas for elsewhere before a poison pill would be effective. As long as Dallas offers him an equal contract leaving aside any ridiculous poison pill amount, He will keep with us. Unless, of course, Jerry steals his girl, his dog, or his video games any time soon and peeves him off.