Why the Jonathan Mingo trade could haunt Dallas in 2025

darthseinfeld said:
I dont think they would just because of Mingo. I think there is a good chance they dont go WR in the top 75 though. The value might not be there with this class.
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This is the thing. Cowboys don’t need another receiver they need a number 2. We have a bunch of potential number 3 guys. So if you aren’t taking a receiver in the first round are you taking one in the second or later just for another Tolbert?
 
big dog cowboy said:
If Mingo doesn't get targets and produce, this will haunt the Jones clan all year.

Why the Jonathan Mingo trade could haunt Dallas in 2025
3/1/2025

The new league year begins in a few weeks, which means many transactions will occur throughout the NFL. Trades will almost certainly happen. However, one trade in particular the Dallas Cowboys made last season may have lingering effects at the worth possible time.

The trade in question is the Cowboys acquiring Jonathan Mingo at the trade deadline from the Carolina Panthers for a fourth-round pick in this upcoming draft. The trade caught many off guard, likely because the Cowboys aren’t usually active during the deadline. Secondly, the compensation given for Mingo was laughable.



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I just don’t understand why it was done. Was it for 2024 - meaning the rest of the season in hopes of making the playoffs? Was it a rebuilding piece for 2025 and beyond?

What is doubly baffling is Mingo has never done anything of merit in this league yet. The Cowboys acted like they traded for an immediate impact player. In reality they acquired an underachieving player who thus far would have to be classified as nothing more than a project.
 
big dog cowboy said:
That's the problem. They didn't target him at all. Schoon produced when he got targets. Tolbert produced when he got targets. McCarthy didn't have any clue what to do with Mingo. Just like many other players.
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In Mingo's 8 games here he had 5 receptions on 16 targets. (31% success)

In those 8 games schoon 19 receptions on 24 targets. (79% success)

If you can't see the production difference and why Mingo wasn't on the field more, I don't know what to tell you. This also mirrored what he showed in Carolina prior to the trade, so it wasn't a shock, it was pretty much expected.

My issue isn't Mingo. It's he fact that we traded a 4th for someone was was regressing to the point that two rookies got him basically benched in Carolina and was going to get cut this offseason anyway. There was going to be minimal competition to sign him on a "rehab" type contract next month. Horrible trade that wasn't going to move a needle anywhere.
 
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darthseinfeld said:
He wasnt anymore effective in Carolina either though. It could just be QB play, but it could also be he just isnt very good. And this is coming from a poster that liked him at #27 in 2023
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Well Bryce had his issues too. But I don’t disagree. Mingo has sucked and may suck. His lack of separation is scary. But for sure those passes Rush threw to him a lot of them were uncatchable.
 
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irishline said:
In Mingo's 8 games here he had 5 receptions on 16 targets.(31% success)

In those 8 games schoon 19 receptions on 24 targets. (79% success)

If you can't see the production difference and why Mingo wasn't on the field more, I don't know what to tell you.

My issue isn't Mingo. It's he fact that we traded a 4th for someone was was regressing to the point that two rookies got him basically benched in Carolina and was going to get cut this offseason anyway. There was going to be minimal competition to sign him on a "rehab" type contract next month. Horrible trade that wasn't going to move a needle anywhere.
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Guarantee you put a mike in front of Stephen or Jerry they'll tell you how thankful they are to have him and they'll REMIND us as if we don't already know that "they had a 2nd round grade on him!" Not sure he makes it through camp, we shall see, maybe!!
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
This is the thing. Cowboys don’t need another receiver they need a number 2. We have a bunch of potential number 3 guys. So if you aren’t taking a receiver in the first round are you taking one in the second or later just for another Tolbert?
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My guess is they go with a FA or trade for a #2. At 12 you should be able to get a competent day one #2, but you are locking yourself in to a WR there. Not a good strategy imo. Id love to add Tet though

Its definitely a day 2 possibility. Thats a longer play. You cant really expect big day 1 dividends from that this year. Not a great class. I like Royals alot as a potential future #2. The downside to him is he is a smaller school guy like Tolbert was. But he has alot more upside than Tolbert had

Either way, if they are really going to bring in some "tier 2" FA's like they said, WR would be where I expect them to do so. I could see Hollywood here. Seems like their type of signing. Value is low due to a injury-riddled year, but talent and fairly productive before.
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
Jerry, like any successful businessman, knows his customers.

This trade had nothing to do with making the team better.

Jerry knew that all he needed to do was make some kind of move, no matter how big or small, and 75ish percent of the fans that were feeling out would be brought right back in.

He is smarter than his customers and it's not really close.
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If this type of trade is what gets fans back in then Dallas may have one of the dumbest fan bases ever.
 
darthseinfeld said:
My guess is they go with a FA or trade for a #2. At 12 you should be able to get a competent day one #2, but you are locking yourself in to a WR there. Not a good strategy imo. Id love to add Tet though

Its definitely a day 2 possibility. Thats a longer play. You cant really expect big day 1 dividends from that this year. Not a great class. I like Royals alot as a potential future #2. The downside to him is he is a smaller school guy like Tolbert was. But he has alot more upside than Tolbert had

Either way, if they are really going to bring in some "tier 2" FA's like they said, WR would be where I expect them to do so. I could see Hollywood here. Seems like their type of signing. Value is low due to an injury-riddled year, but talent and fairly productive before.
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That’s kind of what I’m saying….if they don’t address receiver in the first round….they may not at all. Mingo is their day 2 guy. Not my opinion but what I think they feel.
 
JohnsKey19 said:
Seems like Jerry panicked into making a bad move. Not sure why. This definitely was not a Stephen Jones move.
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Part of me feels like they didn’t like this draft class and wanted to trade for someone they liked. It doesn’t justify I honestly don’t know why they did it.
 
JonesBoys said:
If this type of trade is what gets fans back in then Dallas may have one of the dumbest fan bases ever.
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We do.

Jerry only has to do the very bare minimum to make 75% of the fanbase think he's changing.

If you look at just the front page here you will see multiple threads thinking Jerry has changed his ways.
 
It was not a good trade because 4th round picks are valuable trade assets. You literally could get a top flight number 2 receiver for a 4th rounder. That being said Mingo is the second most talented receiver on our roster and looked good against Washington the last game of the season. He is also is a highly graded blocker that fits in with what appears to be our new offensive philosophy.
 
darthseinfeld said:
5 catches on 15 targets with Dallas

Where they supposed to target him more with that production?
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A lot more involved there to judge.

Quesionable QB arm, play calling. Learning the offense, that is predictable. Pop Warner kids learn how to defend this playbook day one of practice.

Give him this off-season and TC and see how he does.
 
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