Will Dez ever be elite again?

[Daillest88]

Dez best play.. taking 3 guys out of the play on Beasley TD.. Beautiful

 

[T-RO]

I would worry if the separation wasn't there or he was continually dropping passes that were fairly easy to make. I'd still like to see a legit deep threat beside him to make defenses pay if they bracket him deep.

Dak said early in the season...I throw to guys that are open.

If you compare reels of Dez with other top receivers...I've done a bit on YouTube.. its blatantly obvious that Dez is often well covered..even smothered on his catches. He has a remarkable ability to catch balls when covered.

But Dez ISN'T very good at getting open.

 

[Verdict]

Yes, Dez should just warp to other parts of the field when Dak goes full Tim Tebow when throwing.

Yes, a ball being 5 yards off the mark is on Dez. CBs pretty much humping Dez's arm today is on Dez. Dak missing him WIDE OPEN in the end zone is on Dez.

What is the point of watching games if you guys are just going to come onto this forum and toss out raw statistics and blatantly wrong statements?

Unreal.

No. Scotty can't warp Dez someplace else but that's not really reality is it? Are you going to pretend that Dez didn't have a weak minded meltdown today? Don't you expect more of your boy than that?

 

[romothesavior]

Facts?

Interference should have been called on two of those throws (the 1st target to him today and the throw in the endzone).

How are y'all sitting here watching the games and COMPLETELY ignoring what's happening on the field.

Haden was holding Dez's left arm, preventing him from grasping the ball with both hands.

But let me guess, "buh, eliTe receifers shuld find a way!"

On the first one, totally. It was a ton of contact and it should have been PI.

The second one? Come on dude. If that's PI, there would be 20 PI penalties a game. He should have caught that for a touchdown.

 

[bounce]

I wonder why Beasley's production has gone way up this year?

Because he's throwing passes underneath, and because Dez has missed more than half the season?

 

[Verdict]

Dak said early in the season...I throw to guys that are open.

If you compare reels of Dez with other top receivers...I've done a bit on YouTube.. its blatantly obvious that Dez is often well covered..even smothered on his catches. He has a remarkable ability to catch balls when covered.

But Dez ISN'T very good at getting open.

Dez is a very inconsistent, poor route runner for the most part.

 

[TheDude]

He had four catches on 14 targets last week.

and 9 were uncatchable.

 

[Gabe]

Dez is a very inconsistent, poor route runner for the most part.

This is very true, his route running was downright awful in the Philly game.

 

[JBS]

Can somebody post the play in the second quarter of the Dez drop please

I didn't see it...I've heard different things about this play

 

[SDCowboy]

Why pick on Dez.....the team is 8-1.

Maybe because the guy is one of the faces of the franchise and he hasn't been relevant in most of the last two seasons. Also, if he would step his game back up to what he's capable of, we'd be even better.

Winning doesn't excuse poor play.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Dak said early in the season...I throw to guys that are open.

If you compare reels of Dez with other top receivers...I've done a bit on YouTube.. its blatantly obvious that Dez is often well covered..even smothered on his catches. He has a remarkable ability to catch balls when covered.

But Dez ISN'T very good at getting open.

You're not watching All-22. He's getting open. He was open a lot in the Giants game and the Eagles game. Dak happened to have his 2 worst games then.

EVERY QB tries to throw to the open guy. Doesn't mean that they do it every time.





YR

 

[Verdict]

There is no doubt that Romo makes Dez a better player because what Dez does well isn't Dak's current strength. I say that in fairness to Dez.

 

[plymkr]

We won the game by 25 points. I'm happy and we're on a 7 game win streak. There's nothing to complain about with this team.

I'm going to enjoy the win.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

On the first one, totally. It was a ton of contact and it should have been PI.

The second one? Come on dude. If that's PI, there would be 20 PI penalties a game. He should have caught that for a touchdown.

You gotta be kidding me?

Dez's left arm disagrees.

 

[Verdict]

On the first one, totally. It was a ton of contact and it should have been PI.

The second one? Come on dude. If that's PI, there would be 20 PI penalties a game. He should have caught that for a touchdown.

A "ton of contact"?? Seriously? You are reaching for excuses my son.

 

[T-RO]

By and large, the production of a WR -- elite to practice squad member -- is determined by the level of quality of play by the QB. When Roethlisberger is out, or off, Antonio Brown's numbers fall off a cliff. Hopkins has disappeared with bad QB play. So has Demaryius Thomas. When Ryan is bad, Jones doesn't produce. Brandon Marshall's numbers are way down with bad QB play. Beckham's are bad. Robinson's numbers are down when Bortles plays bad. Have all those guys fallen from the ranks of elite?

Dak is winning games, yes, but he's not lighting the world on fire statistically, so the guys whose numbers are directly dependent on him will suffer. Fantasy football is fun, but it's definitely exposed people who aren't able to separate FF knowledge from football knowledge.

I'm trying to understand your point. Are you saying:
A. Dak is playing as a second tier a back-up quarterback
B. Dak doesn't throw the ball down field effectively?

I don't agree with either of these. I just don't think Dak wants to go downfield into a crowd. And perhaps...there also may be some trust issue with Dez's routes....

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Because he's throwing passes underneath, and because Dez has missed more than half the season?

Lool.

I love it when these guys say "he hasn't looked the same this year or last."

They're either not watching the actual games or simply conveniently acting like they didn't know Dez was injured last season.

 

[KJJ]

No donk, saying you don't think something is the most prudent approach doesn't equate to saying it was a "mistake."

Have fun working the graveyard shift in shipping & receiving the rest of your life.

Saying it wasn't the most prudent move is saying we should have used the pick on another position. That's just a nice way of saying the pick was a mistake. lol So what player at #4 would have helped the Cowboys more than Zeke has this season? I'll have you doing the foxtrot in no time. lol

 

[toto1939]

There is no doubt that Romo makes Dez a better player because what Dez does well isn't Dak's current strength. I say that in fairness to Dez.

Like Romo throwing the ball to Dez in triple coverage and expecting Dez to make the catch while Dak's current strength is to look elsewhere and not throw interceptions (2 so far this year)?

 

[romothesavior]

A "ton of contact"?? Seriously? You are reaching for excuses my son.

Reread my posts in this thread and let me know if you still think I'm "reaching for excuses" for Dez Bryant.