Will Romo run for TD or 1st Down when needed?

CowboysRule

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,585
Reaction score
5,170
Look at Peyton Manning last year. Although his defense was the splash of the Super Bowl, Manning made just enough plays, and didn't make a mistake on offense. To me that's the difference right there. He has to make enough plays, enough plays to win the game.

This is why you pay the QB. I know there are 10 other guys on the field, but he has to make the smart decisions, put the ball where it needs to go and move his team into the end zone or field goals. This makes him a difference maker and the difference between a winning Super Bowl team and a habitual loser.
Really? Manning made enough plays and didn't make mistakes? 12/23 for 141 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT. He let the defense run the game and tried not to poop himself on the field.

Then you state that Romo has never been good at driving the bus. When has he been able to? When have we had a dominate defense that could just smother the other team into submission? 2014 was the first time he could do anything close to "driving the bus" because of our running game and you see the result. He should've been MVP.
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,981
Reaction score
48,728
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Really? Manning made enough plays and didn't make mistakes? 12/23 for 141 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT. He let the defense run the game and tried not to poop himself on the field.

Then you state that Romo has never been good at driving the bus. When has he been able to? When have we had a dominate defense that could just smother the other team into submission? 2014 was the first time he could do anything close to "driving the bus" because of our running game and you see the result. He should've been MVP.
yeah.
Manning was certainly NOT the reason Denver won the Super Bowl last year.
If anything, his play showed how much of team game it really is.

And if 2014 Dallas had that 2015 Denver defense, they would have plowed through the playoffs to a SB win.
Team game.
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,981
Reaction score
48,728
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Not sure how this thread got so out of whack...yet again. Oh well.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,893
Reaction score
27,489
Really? Manning made enough plays and didn't make mistakes? 12/23 for 141 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT. He let the defense run the game and tried not to poop himself on the field.

Then you state that Romo has never been good at driving the bus. When has he been able to? When have we had a dominate defense that could just smother the other team into submission? 2014 was the first time he could do anything close to "driving the bus" because of our running game and you see the result. He should've been MVP.
instead he was another playoff victim because of his own stupidity
 

CowboysRule

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,585
Reaction score
5,170
instead he was another playoff victim because of his own stupidity
15/19 for 191 yards, 2 TD's no INT's in Green Bay and yet he was a victim of his own stupidity? You say nothing about the defense? Nothing about Murray's fumble? Nothing about the ref's ruling an obvious incomplete pass to a GB WR a catch and calling Dez's catch a non-catch? Do you seriously believe what you are typing???
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,893
Reaction score
27,489
15/19 for 191 yards, 2 TD's no INT's in Green Bay and yet he was a victim of his own stupidity? You say nothing about the defense? Nothing about Murray's fumble? Nothing about the ref's ruling an obvious incomplete pass to a GB WR a catch and calling Dez's catch a non-catch? Do you seriously believe what you are typing???
we're talking about Romo here. You know the mistake he made right before half that cost us points? You know the mistake he made and not going for the first down but going for the home run? And by the way, had dez caught the ball, they would have scored any ways to win. Plenty of time on the clock for Rodgers.
 

Blake

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,814
Reaction score
9,391
Romo apologists exclaim week in and week out, that individual quarterback play is negligible compared to having a good team that makes the qb's job easier. They say that Romo never had the offense or defense to do what Dak is doing, and believe because of it, that Romo is entitled to take the reigns of the offense back to show the world how much more "potent" and "elite" the offense can be with him behind center. Yet, in arguing that it is the team that makes the qb the Rominators are actually destroying their own case because right now the team is playing great without Romo, and because team effort correlates to sucess in their minds and not just qb play,, this must indicate that the team doesnt miss or require Romo's services anymore and he is now expendable.
 

CowboysRule

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,585
Reaction score
5,170
we're talking about Romo here. You know the mistake he made right before half that cost us points? You know the mistake he made and not going for the first down but going for the home run? And by the way, had dez caught the ball, they would have scored any ways to win. Plenty of time on the clock for Rodgers.
Trying to score is a mistake? Since the game is all on him he has to score in order to win. Other players and facets of the game be damned. He had Bryant one-on-one and, IMO, Bryant caught the ball but that's a different discussion. This is my last post on this because you're obviously just trolling at this point. I feel Romo should be the QB when he is healthy as I believe he is the better QB. That is no slight against Dak. I fully support Dak now and if he is kept as the starter when Romo is healthy I will continue to fully support him. I am fan of the Dallas Cowboys and I don't hate any of our players...except maybe Terrance Williams. I just don't like that guy.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,893
Reaction score
27,489
Trying to score is a mistake? Since the game is all on him he has to score in order to win. Other players and facets of the game be damned. He had Bryant one-on-one and, IMO, Bryant caught the ball but that's a different discussion. This is my last post on this because you're obviously just trolling at this point. I feel Romo should be the QB when he is healthy as I believe he is the better QB. That is no slight against Dak. I fully support Dak now and if he is kept as the starter when Romo is healthy I will continue to fully support him. I am fan of the Dallas Cowboys and I don't hate any of our players...except maybe Terrance Williams. I just don't like that guy.
He had Beasley on a cross for the 1st down. The Dez play should have been done on third down. Romo maybe the better regular season quarterback, but not a good playoff quarterback. Plus, Romo is a china doll right now.
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,981
Reaction score
48,728
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Romo apologists exclaim week in and week out, that individual quarterback play is negligible compared to having a good team that makes the qb's job easier. They say that Romo never had the offense or defense to do what Dak is doing, and believe because of it, that Romo is entitled to take the reigns of the offense back to show the world how much more "potent" and "elite" the offense can be with him behind center. Yet, in arguing that it is the team that makes the qb the Rominators are actually destroying their own case because right now the team is playing great without Romo, and because team effort correlates to sucess in their minds and not just qb play,, this must indicate that the team doesnt miss or require Romo's services anymore and he is now expendable.
No, they don't say all of that. You're just making crap up now.

The last time Romo played an extended period of time--2014--he DID have an offense similar to what Dak is playing with now.

Maybe the defense wasn't quite as good, but the offense was very good in 2014.

In fact they averaged more points per game and the QB led the league in QB rating in both the regular and post season--which has never been done before.
They also led the league in rushing as they are now.
The offensive results were pretty spectacular.
 

weaver21

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,024
Reaction score
459
It's unbelievable how divided this forum is. It's quite pathetic actually to see all these Cowboys fans keep arguing like we're rival fans when in reality we all want one thing and that's to win. It's like people can't like both Dak and Romo, it's like we have to pick a side. What kind of garbage is that? If you support Romo, you're called a blind homer. SMH, it's just ridiculous. People need to grow up and realize we can appreciate both these quarterbacks without all the labeling of what kind of fan people are.
 

Ranching

Well-Known Member
Messages
46,430
Reaction score
111,875
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
He will definitely run for the TD or first down, unfortunately he will probably get hurt doing it.
 

SuspectCorner

Still waiting...
Messages
10,240
Reaction score
2,861
Dak brings a 'threat-to-run' aspect that Romo just isn't capable of providing - but Romo brings a 'you better cover everybody 'cuz I will hit the man you DON'T cover' aspect that Dak just isn't capable of providing. Push.

The determiner is experience. As long as Romo can remain healthy, and without exhibiting any appreciable dimunition of skills - that will be the tie-breaker.
 

SuspectCorner

Still waiting...
Messages
10,240
Reaction score
2,861
I am not one of those "guys who hates Romo" as I always have been a fan of his, and even to this point have all the respect for what he has done on the field for this team. When he hurt his back this year, I quietly (maybe publicly - not sure) said he should hang it up. No sense in doing yourself unneeded damage where health is concerned, but as time moved on, I accepted the idea that he will be back at starting QB as this is his team. As the weeks moved on though and the rise of Dak, I started to believe that it is possible Romo's career is over as a starter the Cowboys.
I was not 100% on that until after Green Bay game, today actually. This team as a whole has rose up and started to play hard, and play smart. From hearing all the players, who are in majority agreement that Dak should remain starter, talk about the poise and leadership Dak brings to the team, this team has and continue to get up and play as a cohesive unit.
Now I am not saying Romo doesn't have those qualities, because I have always thought he did, but for whatever reason the team is responding this year. Last year we won 4 games all year without Romo and Dez, we already won more than that without Romo and pretty much without Dez.

You and some others keep saying that it seems the Romo haters are talking more smack on Romo than the other way around or whatever, and you may very well be right, but I am just writing this post to say there are many of us who are not Romo bashing, but rather looking for what is best for the team. As I have stated before, I do not think teams owe any player anything. If they are injured, they better come back and play better than their backup if they want their job back. If they don't, well sorry time to move on. I am believing, like the vast majority out there, that Dak is the best man for the job as starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. You, me, and anyone else can make the argument that Romo is a better QB in some aspects of the game, but overall play and taking everything into account (health, speed, athleticism, accuracy, etc....) Dak is better for the team going forward.

Like I said before, whoever is QB'g the Cowboys, I will support fully. Romo is a very good QB and this is just what I think is an honest opinion that I am sharing. Don't expect all to hold it, but thats cool. Just wanted to make sure you don't label all who aren't necessarily in agreement that Romo should start when healthy as haters.

:starspin:

Nice post. But I don't recall ANY player, coach, staff member, or otherwise ANY member of the team saying that Dak should remain as the starter. Are you a member of the 2016-2017 Dallas Cowboys? No... you are NOT. You are just a fan like me - here to supply your supposition, conjecture, and various theories as they relate to the Dallas Cowboys and who you believe should be the starting QB.

We don't know how the team is split along these lines because they have the collective SENSE not to tell us how they feel about the subject. Care to start over?
 

rpntex

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,470
Reaction score
1,042
This is a very good thread. Seriously have to consider what we are going to lose with Romo in running and I am sure some of his evasiveness considering he will take more sacks and throw the ball away more. He will have to avoid getting clobbered.

And what we will gain with Romo in the passing game.

The coaching staff doesn't want ANY of our QBs running the ball. This isn't college football...QBs who run get hurt. In other words, the QB's ability to run is probably WAY down the list of "what's important".
 

rpntex

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,470
Reaction score
1,042
Missed open guys every week? LOL Was that on his way to scoring a TD?

As if Romo has NEVER missed any open recievers?

Laughable.

I don't think he's saying that Dak has missed receivers, as in throwing errant passes. Rather, it's more like he doesn't SEE open receivers, and chooses to go elsewhere with the ball. I know, all QBs do this on occasion, and Dak is getting better at seeing the entire field, but earlier in the season he wasn't seeing the whole field. Therefore, he failed to see receivers running open - in a couple of cases behind the secondary with what could have been a sure TD.
 

BrassCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,807
Reaction score
3,399
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Nice post. But I don't recall ANY player, coach, staff member, or otherwise ANY member of the team saying that Dak should remain as the starter. Are you a member of the 2016-2017 Dallas Cowboys? No... you are NOT. You are just a fan like me - here to supply your supposition, conjecture, and various theories as they relate to the Dallas Cowboys and who you believe should be the starting QB.

We don't know how the team is split along these lines because they have the collective SENSE not to tell us how they feel about the subject. Care to start over?
no.
 

BrassCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,807
Reaction score
3,399
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Not everyone who wants Dak to remain starter is a Romo hater, but there is a very large contingent. They have always hated him and wanted him to fail. The Cloves and ufcrules1 have been doing it for years, and then there are new trolls like gabe around. They are the problem. The people who simply want to keep momentum and don't want to change anything that might alter it aren't. I disagree with them (and you), but that is simply a respectful difference of opinion.



I'm not sure why you think the majority of players agree Dak should remain the starter? Unless you mean "analyst" ex-players?



See above.
I thought I heard somewhere the players feel Dak should stay as starter, can't recall and thats fine. unrelated to my opinion. thanks for yours
 
Top