Will Romo run for TD or 1st Down when needed?

[DFWJC]

Romo usually almost always plays at that level IN THE REGULAR SEASON! You guys forget there's another season right? It's called the POST SEASON. You know, the place where Roger Staubach and Aikman did their best work? The place where Romo's done his worst work, on the small occasion he's actually made it there.

Tony Romo led the entire NFL in post season QB rating the last time the Cowboys were there.

 

[Clove]

Tony Romo led the entire NFL in post season QB rating the last time the Cowboys were there.

How did it end?

 

[Clove]

Wow, you're just ridiculous. I care because Romo is a better QB and can succeed where Dak falls short. Dak is far from a beast.

I reference 2014 because it is similar to this team. Amazing run game and mediocre defense. We saw what Romo did with that team. I have no reason to believe a collarbone injury (which he suffered before then came back and played at a high level) and a back injury (which he has had before only to come back and play at a high level) will stop him from returning to play at a high level.

Obviously, you don't see it that way and are completely blind to any argument outside your own though...

With regards to just WINNING, where is Romo superior in the grand scope of winning? Is it in the playoffs? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You guys act like the playoffs don't exist. He has not won much in the playoffs, as a matter of facts, he doesn't even make the playoffs most of the time in his career. Those are facts bro.

 

[Clove]

The fact that he's a great QB and I am not a complete moron that thinks QBs win instead of teams.

You must be young because you have no concept of QB play vs winning. Great Qbs win, that's the bottom line. I'll say it again, great QBs win. They just win bro.

 

[Kevinicus]

You must be young because you have no concept of QB play vs winning. Great Qbs win, that's the bottom line. I'll say it again, great QBs win. They just win bro.

Not on crap teams they don't. Just ask Drew Brees. There are so many examples to destroy your claim. This is stupid.

 

[DFWJC]

How did it end?

35-40 guys playing each game Clove.
You know that.
Come on.

He's had his issues in and out of the playoffs, no denying that.
But it is a team game.

Troy and Roger are not winning Super Bowls without those top 5 rated defenses...and all around great teams.

I've never been it that camp would say he's better than those guys, but his even his career PLAYOFF QB rating is higher than both and he has far fewer turnovers than either of them on average. Playoffs and regular season.

It's a team game and you're bright enough to know that.

 

[Clove]

Not on crap teams they don't. Just ask Drew Brees. There are so many examples to destroy your claim. This is stupid.

It's stupid because you have no clue pal. Brees won a Super Bowl. I swear, you sound like a teen.

 

[Kevinicus]

It's stupid because you have no clue pal. Brees won a Super Bowl. I swear, you sound like a teen.

The Saints won a Superbowl.

Why isn't Brees winning now?

Stupid, stupid, stupid. No logic or reason whatsoever. There's no arguing/debating with stupid. A fool will remain a fool because he chooses to. I'm done with your foolishness.

 

[Clove]

35-40 guys playing each game Clove.
You know that.
Come on.

He's had his issue in and out of the playoffs, no denying that.
But it is team game.
Troy and Roger are not winning Super Bowls without those top 5 rated defenses...and all around great teams.

I've never been it that camp would say he's better than those guys, but his even his career PLAYOFF QB rating is higher than both and he has far fewer turnovers than either of them on average. Playoffs and regular season.

It's a team game and you're bright enough to know that.

Romo barely won the Detroit game if not for a horrible call on Detroit. Then he makes several "shake your head" plays in the Green Bay game which ultimately cost us the win. What part of that do you guys not understand? If you can't make the smart plays in the most important games, you will never go anywhere. I don't care if he threw for 600 yards with 5 TD passes, if he makes a stupid decision at the end of the game to lose the game, he's not good enough for the Super Bowl.

 

[DFWJC]

Romo barely won the Detroit game if not for a horrible call on Detroit. Then he makes several "shake your head" plays in the Green Bay game which ultimately cost us the win. What part of that do you guys not understand? If you can't make the smart plays in the most important games, you will never go anywhere. I don't care if he threw for 600 yards with 5 TD passes, if he makes a stupid decision at the end of the game to lose the game, he's not good enough for the Super Bowl.

Well, Romo doesn't win or lose any of those games. The Cowboys teams does...which includes Romo.

 

[Clove]

The Saints won a Superbowl.

Why isn't Brees winning now?

Stupid, stupid, stupid. No logic or reason whatsoever. There's no arguing/debating with stupid. A fool will remain a fool because he chooses to. I'm done with your foolishness.

It doesn't matter why he can't win now, he's actually done it. And for that matter, I'd love it if Romo actually wins 1 Super Bowl but it won't happen.

 

[Clove]

Well, Romo doesn't win or lose any of those games. The Cowboys teams does...which includes Romo.

Why do we pay QBs the most money in the NFL? If the QB is not the one difference maker, he wouldn't be paid the most. You'll understand this one day.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I don't hate Dak at all. It's you guys who hate Romo (you are known for your nonsense for years).

I am not one of those "guys who hates Romo" as I always have been a fan of his, and even to this point have all the respect for what he has done on the field for this team. When he hurt his back this year, I quietly (maybe publicly - not sure) said he should hang it up. No sense in doing yourself unneeded damage where health is concerned, but as time moved on, I accepted the idea that he will be back at starting QB as this is his team. As the weeks moved on though and the rise of Dak, I started to believe that it is possible Romo's career is over as a starter the Cowboys.
I was not 100% on that until after Green Bay game, today actually. This team as a whole has rose up and started to play hard, and play smart. From hearing all the players, who are in majority agreement that Dak should remain starter, talk about the poise and leadership Dak brings to the team, this team has and continue to get up and play as a cohesive unit.
Now I am not saying Romo doesn't have those qualities, because I have always thought he did, but for whatever reason the team is responding this year. Last year we won 4 games all year without Romo and Dez, we already won more than that without Romo and pretty much without Dez.

You and some others keep saying that it seems the Romo haters are talking more smack on Romo than the other way around or whatever, and you may very well be right, but I am just writing this post to say there are many of us who are not Romo bashing, but rather looking for what is best for the team. As I have stated before, I do not think teams owe any player anything. If they are injured, they better come back and play better than their backup if they want their job back. If they don't, well sorry time to move on. I am believing, like the vast majority out there, that Dak is the best man for the job as starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. You, me, and anyone else can make the argument that Romo is a better QB in some aspects of the game, but overall play and taking everything into account (health, speed, athleticism, accuracy, etc....) Dak is better for the team going forward.

Like I said before, whoever is QB'g the Cowboys, I will support fully. Romo is a very good QB and this is just what I think is an honest opinion that I am sharing. Don't expect all to hold it, but thats cool. Just wanted to make sure you don't label all who aren't necessarily in agreement that Romo should start when healthy as haters.

 

[DFWJC]

Why do we pay QBs the most money in the NFL? If the QB is not the one difference maker, he wouldn't be paid the most. You'll understand this one day.

Well I understand that there's a full team and the QB has more impact than most of his teammates, if that's what you mean.
But it's not 100% and it's most certainly not even 50%....hard to put a number on it, but more than 1/45th by far, yes. Maybe even 5x that.

Oddly, I'm not even one the guys arguing that Romo start over Dak right now.
Let it ride, I say.

 

[Clove]

Well I understand that there's a full team and the QB has more impact than most of his teammates, if that's what you mean.
But it's not 100% and it's most certainly not even 50%....hard to put a number on it, but more than 1/45th by far, yes. Maybe even 5x that.

The QB has his hands on the ball 100% of the time he's on offense. This makes him the number one difference maker on the team. Now if the defense has the ball more, and scores like no other, then it's up to the QB to drive the bus and not make mistakes. Something Romo's never been good at.

 

[DFWJC]

The QB has his hands on the ball 100% of the time he's on offense. This makes him the number one difference maker on the team. Now if the defense has the ball more, and scores like no other, then it's up to the QB to drive the bus and not make mistakes. Something Romo's never been good at.

Yes. he is #1 difference maker on the team.
If he was alone on offense , that would still only make his impact less than 50% (defense and special teams)
How much, I don't know. 10%...15%...maybe?

But yes, it's a big impact.
It's why you can have a 32nd ranked defense (like in 2003) and some how not come in last place...but instead miraculously go 8-8.

 

[Clove]

Yes. he is #1 difference maker on the team.
If he was alone on offense , that would still only make his impact less than 50% (defense and special teams)
How much, I don't know. 10%...15%...maybe?

Look at Peyton Manning last year. Although his defense was the splash of the Super Bowl, Manning made just enough plays, and didn't make a mistake on offense. To me that's the difference right there. He has to make enough plays, enough plays to win the game.

This is why you pay the QB. I know there are 10 other guys on the field, but he has to make the smart decisions, put the ball where it needs to go and move his team into the end zone or field goals. This makes him a difference maker and the difference between a winning Super Bowl team and a habitual loser.

 

[Kevinicus]

Why do we pay QBs the most money in the NFL? If the QB is not the one difference maker, he wouldn't be paid the most. You'll understand this one day.

Well, if it's only the QB, then why do they bother paying for all of the other guys on the roster?

Nobody is stupid enough to suggest that the QB isn't a difference maker or the most important INDIVIDUAL player. No, the stupid people try to claim that it's all the QB and the better one will always win, despite mountainous evidence to the contrary.

 

[Clove]

Well, if it's only the QB, then why do they bother paying for all of the other guys on the roster?

Nobody is stupid enough to suggest that the QB isn't a difference maker or the most important INDIVIDUAL player. No, the stupid people try to claim that it's all the QB and the better one will always win, despite mountainous evidence to the contrary.

The top QB's don't always win Super Bowl, but I guarantee you they are always in the playoffs competing for Super Bowls. Romo's been in the playoffs very little, and has done very little in the playoffs. Those are facts.

 

[Kevinicus]

I am not one of those "guys who hates Romo" as I always have been a fan of his, and even to this point have all the respect for what he has done on the field for this team. When he hurt his back this year, I quietly (maybe publicly - not sure) said he should hang it up. No sense in doing yourself unneeded damage where health is concerned, but as time moved on, I accepted the idea that he will be back at starting QB as this is his team. As the weeks moved on though and the rise of Dak, I started to believe that it is possible Romo's career is over as a starter the Cowboys.

Not everyone who wants Dak to remain starter is a Romo hater, but there is a very large contingent. They have always hated him and wanted him to fail. The Cloves and ufcrules1 have been doing it for years, and then there are new trolls like gabe around. They are the problem. The people who simply want to keep momentum and don't want to change anything that might alter it aren't. I disagree with them (and you), but that is simply a respectful difference of opinion.

I was not 100% on that until after Green Bay game, today actually. This team as a whole has rose up and started to play hard, and play smart. From hearing all the players, who are in majority agreement that Dak should remain starter, talk about the poise and leadership Dak brings to the team, this team has and continue to get up and play as a cohesive unit.

I'm not sure why you think the majority of players agree Dak should remain the starter? Unless you mean "analyst" ex-players?

Now I am not saying Romo doesn't have those qualities, because I have always thought he did, but for whatever reason the team is responding this year. Last year we won 4 games all year without Romo and Dez, we already won more than that without Romo and pretty much without Dez.

You and some others keep saying that it seems the Romo haters are talking more smack on Romo than the other way around or whatever, and you may very well be right, but I am just writing this post to say there are many of us who are not Romo bashing, but rather looking for what is best for the team. As I have stated before, I do not think teams owe any player anything. If they are injured, they better come back and play better than their backup if they want their job back. If they don't, well sorry time to move on. I am believing, like the vast majority out there, that Dak is the best man for the job as starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. You, me, and anyone else can make the argument that Romo is a better QB in some aspects of the game, but overall play and taking everything into account (health, speed, athleticism, accuracy, etc....) Dak is better for the team going forward.

Like I said before, whoever is QB'g the Cowboys, I will support fully. Romo is a very good QB and this is just what I think is an honest opinion that I am sharing. Don't expect all to hold it, but thats cool. Just wanted to make sure you don't label all who aren't necessarily in agreement that Romo should start when healthy as haters.

See above.