CFZ With our Legacy would you have went all in like the Rams to win our 6th Superbowl?

Captain43Crash

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I don't believe in going all in because the guys making the personnel decisions are Jerry and Stephen Jones.

There's no pressure on them to succeed, and they've shown us who they are. They're not up to it. These two masterminds are giving us the best they can.

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I disagree.
Back in the 90’s when Jerry was winning us Superbowls, and for years after, he made bold movies. He would use trades and big FA movies to try to get us to the top of the mountain. Some of the moves worked spectacularly( Haley and Sanders) and some, not so much( Galloway etc,)
Today Jerry, probably mainly because of Stephen and his basic knowledge of the CAP, etc. has gone conservative. He does not take full advantage of the NFL system to acquire talent, like he used too! Mainly he needs to start usingFA and trades more to our advantage, like he did in the 90’s.

They say, an old dog can’t learn new tricks. Well these are tricks, Jerry already knows!! Start using them again!!
 

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Jerry looks drunk and confused in that picture!!! :laugh:

P.S. - I would go all in ONLY if it would guarantee us a Super Bowl win.
Nothing is guaranteed!

We were very close this year. A couple of moves could have made the difference. Jerry did not make those movies! We could have. KC, Philly, and SF were very beatable this year!

When you are really close like we were I believe you go all in.

ALL in means using all the tools at your disposal, the draft, FA, and trades. You take calculated risk.

Philly went all in this year. They very easily could have won the Superbowl! They were favored for a reason.
 

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Not like the Rams. They are awful.
I would be okay with being awful for a few years or more, if my team wins the Superbowl!

Do you realize how hard it is to win the Superbowl?

The average team only wins the Superbowl once every 32 years. Who cares if you have a few down years.

As a Dallas fan since the mid seventies, all the season just kind of run together, EXCEPT the years we won the Superbowl.

2nd Place doesn’t mean shi_ in the NFL!
 

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I would rather go All In after hiring a real GM .
I don't want Jerry making All In decisions.
You weren’t around when Jerry used FA and trades, as well as, the draft to help us win Superbowls. He took risk back then.
He could start doing it again, with the help of Quinn and McClain( spelling).
 

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I disagree.
Back in the 90’s when Jerry was winning us Superbowls, and for years after, he made bold movies. He would use trades and big FA movies to try to get us to the top of the mountain. Some of the moves worked spectacularly( Haley and Sanders) and some, not so much( Galloway etc,)
Today Jerry, probably mainly because of Stephen and his basic knowledge of the CAP, etc. has gone conservative. He does not take full advantage of the NFL system to acquire talent, like he used too! Mainly he needs to start usingFA and trades more to our advantage, like he did in the 90’s.

They say, an old dog can’t learn new tricks. Well these are tricks, Jerry already knows!! Start using them again!!
For starters, it has been well-documented that Jimmy was in charge of player personnel decisions. It became a sticking point when Jerry wanted to take that out of his contract, after getting the financial house in order. Neither party has denied it, so "Jerry was winning us Super Bowls" is giving him credit for Jimmy's team-building work.

Jerry definitely was into making bold moves, credit to him for that, but he's 80 years old now. He's obviously mellowed in that regard and it's clearly not in Stephen's DNA.
 

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against ALL IN mentality but a few more risks in FA would be welcomed. we are on the cusp with small window opened to get further in the playoffs. time is now.. MM has momentum going upward, time to cash in..

Odd or ironic that soem here including OP point a few teams that done this but 28-30 that have not they choose to do it far closer to what jerry does because that typically smart business.,if its was guaranteed im sure jerry would but how long would you put up with this type of high risk all in business practice if we got to SB and lost then co9uldnt make ut over 500 the next 3 seasons recovering? it worked for the rams, who else the eagles lost and those that say they are in great shape, those moves have them with 49mil in dead cap, im no capologist but that doesnt sound great. they also had the easiest path to the sb in the playoffs and IMHO also got exposed after seen the weakest teams at QB most of the season, when they played the better offense, they got exposed.

they are NOT as great as most say here so lets stop that talk as it they are "set up" for very long time. they are about to have to pay or cut a lot of good players and already have 49mil in dead cap, not sure that true at all. again, im no expert but not sure what that dead cap does to their next 2 seasons but...it doesnt sound good.
 

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Most certainly would have gone all in a long time ago and then take the five to eight year plan to build another super bowl team.

Having a team that competes in a super bowl every 10 years is a reasonable expectation and if you have to go all in to do that by all means go all in.

All those eight and eight teams coached by Garrett were absolutely useless it would have been way better to go all in and win a super bowl one of those years and have those eight and eight teams be two when teams and rebuild again.

Getting to the tournament and knowing that you absolutely do not have enough to get to the big game is torturous for any fan base and that is where Jerry keeps us.

Before that with Garrett we were kept one game from making the tournament which was even worse not good enough to make the playoffs and too good to draft well
 

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I would be okay with being awful for a few years or more, if my team wins the Superbowl!

Do you realize how hard it is to win the Superbowl?

The average team only wins the Superbowl once every 32 years. Who cares if you have a few down years.

As a Dallas fan since the mid seventies, all the season just kind of run together, EXCEPT the years we won the Superbowl.

2nd Place doesn’t mean shi_ in the NFL!
That would suck.
 

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we need to stop using this term "Going all in " teams can do more than ordinary, and not be all in.
All in give the impression it is for 1 year only, and it will vary from team to team.
I agree.
To me all in does not mean your team will automatically be lousy the year after they go all in.

ALL IN to me, means when your team is really close, talent wise, coach wise, etc. to winning a Superbowl ( like we were this last year ) you take calculated risk to get a Superbowl Championship. You use every tool at your disposal: the draft, free agency, and trades. You might spend extra to get “your” missing piece.

By this definition Jerry has not been going ALL IN.
In the 90’s by this definition Jerry WAS going ALL IN!!!!
 

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That would suck.
What would suck?
Winning the Superbowl?

Being awful for a few years or more?

Doesn’t it also suck knowing your team isn’t quite god enough to win the Superbowl, because the owner refused to make a couple moves with FA or trades to truly compete for a Superbowl title?
 

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What would suck?
Winning the Superbowl?

Being awful for a few years or more?

Doesn’t it also suck knowing your team isn’t quite god enough to win the Superbowl, because the owner refused to make a couple moves with FA or trades to truly compete for a Superbowl title?
I watch the whole league and where the Rams are totally sucks. They are hard to watch. The Cowboys on the other hand are a good young exciting team to watch. The Cowboys are a contender.
 

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Sounds like we have some fans that don’t believe in going all in! Kinda like Jerry.

With our legacy( 5 Superbowl wins and 8 Superbowl appearances) or even without our legacy( the Rams legacy), I would go ALL in with the team we have right now!

Our legacy right now, is just below, New England and Pittsburghs legacies, and equal to the Whiners legacy. Everyone else is looking up at our legacy. This is after 27 LONG years of failure in the playoffs!!

I know some of you don’t think we can win a Superbowl with Dak, but WE can!
I know our D played well in the playoffs, but we all know, it could have played better( the long drive the Whiners had, the Whiners scored easily before the half). The D needs a couple of elite pieces to be a TRULY dominant D. We need an elite run stuffing DT to pair with Hankins, an elite LBer, Bobby Wagner, to free up Micah( add 15 pounds and rush the passer more) and possibly an upgrade at CB, though I do like our young CB’s.

With a few moves for the Defense, we will still have the draft capital, FA, and possible trades to improve our offense( a 2nd receiver, possible upgrades on the O line, and a middle round draft choice to replace Zek)

With a truly DOMINANT D and a strong running game, Dak can JUST drive the bus.

We need to go all in THIS YEAR to STRENGTHEN our LEGACY!

A SUPERBOWL victory puts us at the top of the NFL mountain!!!
I think you can win a superbowl this year without going "all in". We can smartly sign very good players, trade and add a high priced FA or two and not end up like the Rams.
 

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I think you can win a superbowl this year without going "all in". We can smartly sign very good players, trade and add a high priced FA or two and not end up like the Rams.
They can, but they will need to hit on a lot of moves and have good luck like any Super Bowl winner would in this era of salary cap and playing 20 games.
 

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They can, but they will need to hit on a lot of moves and have good luck like any Super Bowl winner would in this era of salary cap and playing 20 games.
As they would if they went "all in". Rams got very lucky when they did it and won it.
 

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If the Rams can recover to be competitive this year, yes. Right now it looks like they are going to be in an extended recovery. The greatest gift of the 70s Cowboys was their propensity to perennially be in the hunt for the Lombardi.
 

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I think you can win a superbowl this year without going "all in". We can smartly sign very good players, trade and add a high priced FA or two and not end up like the Rams.
Lol.... when was the last time Jerry or Stephen did anything smart? Have they ever? The only truly smart thing I can credit Jerry for is hiring Jimmy Johnson. It's been a generation of stupidity since then.
 

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Sounds like we have some fans that don’t believe in going all in! Kinda like Jerry.

With our legacy( 5 Superbowl wins and 8 Superbowl appearances) or even without our legacy( the Rams legacy), I would go ALL in with the team we have right now!

Our legacy right now, is just below, New England and Pittsburghs legacies, and equal to the Whiners legacy. Everyone else is looking up at our legacy. This is after 27 LONG years of failure in the playoffs!!

I know some of you don’t think we can win a Superbowl with Dak, but WE can!
I know our D played well in the playoffs, but we all know, it could have played better( the long drive the Whiners had, the Whiners scored easily before the half). The D needs a couple of elite pieces to be a TRULY dominant D. We need an elite run stuffing DT to pair with Hankins, an elite LBer, Bobby Wagner, to free up Micah( add 15 pounds and rush the passer more) and possibly an upgrade at CB, though I do like our young CB’s.

With a few moves for the Defense, we will still have the draft capital, FA, and possible trades to improve our offense( a 2nd receiver, possible upgrades on the O line, and a middle round draft choice to replace Zek)

With a truly DOMINANT D and a strong running game, Dak can JUST drive the bus.

We need to go all in THIS YEAR to STRENGTHEN our LEGACY!

A SUPERBOWL victory puts us at the top of the NFL mountain!!!
I'm not sure what you're saying
EXACTLY what would the Cowboys have done to go "all-in"
I can think of a few things, but how much would it have increased our chances

Everything imaginable had to go right in the playoffs for the Rams to win 3 straight come-from-behind last-minute, game-winning drive, games in their Super Bowl drive. That was unprecedented.


What exactly would you have done?
Do you mean, would we have traded Dak for Stafford...who engineered all those game-winning playoff drives and had no 4th quarter turnovers all season (playoffs or regular season) to go with 51 total TDs? That was an NFL first... nobody has ever done it.
Cooper Kupp was unstoppable and a record-breaker. We don't have him
Aaron Donald. We have nothing like him

Honest question.....what would have gotten the Cowboys a Super Bowl win?
 

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We have an entire generation who witnessed the 70s and 90s SB who've died and never saw their team make it again.

28 years is entirely too long. I'm ALL IN.
 

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As they would if they went "all in". Rams got very lucky when they did it and won it.
Any team that wins is lucky. They get lucky with injuries in a 20 game season and with plays like the out of bounds hit on Mahomes against the Bengals. Eagles were handed the 49ers game when Purdy went down. Bengals got the game changing fumble return earlier in the playoffs. Any team that wins gets lucky breaks.
 

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You weren’t around when Jerry used FA and trades, as well as, the draft to help us win Superbowls. He took risk back then.
He could start doing it again, with the help of Quinn and McClain( spelling).
I've been around since 1976.
Those Super Bowls you seen Jerry using FA on didn't have a hard salary cap and Jimmy Johnson making those FA decisions.
 
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