With Rico coming on as of late, can we start to cancel the Henry talk?

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Now the conversation should be "Lets get Jeanty to pair with Rico to keep try to keep his career alive for longer, and of course the greatness that is Jeanty". Rico would let us have a 2nd RB to keep us from running Jeanty into the ground like we did with Zeke.
 

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Now the conversation should be "Lets get Jeanty to pair with Rico to keep try to keep his career alive for longer, and of course the greatness that is Jeanty". Rico would let us have a 2nd RB to keep us from running Jeanty into the ground like we did with Zeke.
GM Jethro will run him to the ground with 400+ carries a year. Then give him a massive extension, and watch his performance drop like a rock.
 

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MM wants a new contract. So he will do what GM Jethro wants. Pretty simple to understand.


Hes been fortunate they've come together as of late.

Doing what Jethro wants and losing like he was would not get him a new contract. Not so simple when you're losing.
 

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Hes been fortunate they've come together as of late.

Doing what Jethro wants and losing like he was would not get him a new contract. Not so simple when you're losing.
Coming together? You mean the weak part of our schedule.
 

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D. Henry got off to a fast start - and was even in the MVP conversation - but has done next to nothing as of late.
 

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I like Dowdle, but Henry is wasted breath no matter how good he is. He's never been a Cowboy, and he's never gonna be a Cowboy. Wishing won't change that.
 

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Who cares? You know what this team's record is if it has Derrick Henry? 6-8. Maybe 7-7.

Never pay RBs.

Paying coin for RBs like Henry and Saquon only ever makes sense when a team is already a contender. Otherwise use that money to shore up other positions and address this position in the draft.
 

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what a game dowdle had today great game. now just some of the post have said above will the cowboys actually try to sign him next year. maybe his price will be to much for the jones to handle i mean they let pollard go without an offer.
 

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Hats off to Rico, nobody thought he would be doing this well when given touches. At the beginning of the year is was a running back by committee and nobody knew what we had in Rico. We didn't know if he could carry the ball a lot of times.

We all wanted Henry, Henry wanted us, we know what took place next. With the running that we're doing with Rico can we dismiss the Henry talk? I'm not saying he's better in anyway so please don't go there!

I was watching the radio show and someone mentioned the Cowboys wanted Rico to keep running the ball, he had just gotten two good runs, but signaled he needed a break! It was said the Cowboys wanted to keep feeding him
No, but Rico is a solid #2 and I hope we sign him
 

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Absolutely not. Any GM without a top RB and who didn’t draft one and then didn’t go after Henry should be publicly flogged.
 

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Absolutely not. Any GM without a top RB and who didn’t draft one and then didn’t go after Henry should be publicly flogged.
Further, any GM who planned on making his veteran quarterback the highest paid player, should've took a win now approach and went after Henry. Jerry did the opposite of what made sense.
 

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Hats off to Rico, nobody thought he would be doing this well when given touches. At the beginning of the year is was a running back by committee and nobody knew what we had in Rico. We didn't know if he could carry the ball a lot of times.

We all wanted Henry, Henry wanted us, we know what took place next. With the running that we're doing with Rico can we dismiss the Henry talk? I'm not saying he's better in anyway so please don't go there!

I was watching the radio show and someone mentioned the Cowboys wanted Rico to keep running the ball, he had just gotten two good runs, but signaled he needed a break! It was said the Cowboys wanted to keep feeding him
no. absolutely not. Rico accomplished three 100 yard games against some of the worst run defenses in the league. Henry has 1400 yards to dowdles 731 (before the panthers game). that's twice as much.

Rico is half the RB that Henry is. passing on Henry was a big off season mistake.
 

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I can’t tell if you are joking or not. Dak beat the top apy by $5 million dollars and got a no trade clause lol.
A bit of both. Whichever way we look at it Jerry traded a fourth for Lance to get Dak to accept a 'reasonable' contract (obviously failed, but it's Jerry EVERYTHING HE DOES IS TELEGRAPHED). You can read the (FO) room, Jerry wanting a return on the $90m+ he's just spent on QB/WR1....and that meant to cut back at RB.....its the Jerry way: overpay top end and hope they elevate the JAGs.

Jerry's myopic and focus's on money spent (and wanting a return on money spent on individuals), he does look at complimentary football or 'Lines' facilitating factors of the game.
 

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Absolutely not. Any GM without a top RB and who didn’t draft one and then didn’t go after Henry should be publicly flogged.
Be careful, we don't have a GM.
Lets be honest there were RB's available. Jerry chose not to draft, because: a) punish Dak/CeeDee for the contract negotiations (if they are going to rinse me for money, im not spending money/draft capital to help them out b) Zeke and his no.15 shirt sales.
 

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no. absolutely not. Rico accomplished three 100 yard games against some of the worst run defenses in the league. Henry has 1400 yards to dowdles 731 (before the panthers game). that's twice as much.

Rico is half the RB that Henry is. passing on Henry was a big off season mistake.
Signing Henry (presuming we'd have to outbid Baltimore) would of left us with $4m CAP in 2025 (even with the carry over). We were never trying to win (yea, yea, fans heard All-In!!) and Henry wouldnt of made a difference. If we were signing him it should of been last year at the Deadline (but that would of been a disaster as it would of probably meant no 1st Rd pick in 2025).

For the sake of the whole offense, we need to seriously look at RB in the draft, only an elite running game (not Rico) will make defenses come down, rather than sit back in coverage.
 

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Signing Henry (presuming we'd have to outbid Baltimore) would of left us with $4m CAP in 2025 (even with the carry over). We were never trying to win (yea, yea, fans heard All-In!!) and Henry wouldnt of made a difference. If we were signing him it should of been last year at the Deadline (but that would of been a disaster as it would of probably meant no 1st Rd pick in 2025).

For the sake of the whole offense, we need to seriously look at RB in the draft, only an elite running game (not Rico) will make defenses come down, rather than sit back in coverage.
hindsight is 20/20....ALWAYS
....at the time, all of us here wanted a little more. we lost Pollard who is 5th in rushing this year on another team that's struggling and has OL issues.
we then proceeded to replace Pollard with a washed up Zeke when Henry was available (who is better than pollard). that was stupid. that one move showed, we are not all in.

so if you are all in (a big lie I know), then you sign henry.

you are worried about 2025 and sacrificed 2024!!! with a team in clear need of couple of top players to get over the hump (like a real DT). you are 12-5 and you don't sacrifice a year.....you make a run at it.
and for 2025...contracts can be restructured. there has been several articles that with a few restructures we can end up with 65-70M in cap space. more than enough.

with this approach you mention then, next year people say, we have to push money to 26, because we are worried about next year and then 27, 28 and so on...
the window of opportunity is small. you go all in like Rams and you take home a trophy....if you don't and just want to manage next year's cap, you will never get over the hump.

but we know Jerry was lying...that's a whole other issue, but cap wasn't, isn't and shouldn't be an issue, if you are smart (that's the other issue)

btw, we currently have 20M on the cap in 25. henry's cap hit is a little above 10M in 2025, so that would have left us with 9M...
his contract could have been done, so its a 3 year contract with an out in 26, and then a post june 1 cut, to cut the dead cap by half...
 
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