Would real grass cause less injuries than field turf?

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Just play the games. Everyone wants to look to blame something on someone or some other issue. When there really is not one.
INJURIES HAPPEN
 

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There are numbers out there. I guess that new stuff that AT&T and the newer stadiums use brags about a much lower injury rate. I'm sure someone has a link.

I'm too old school to tell you of any advantages with the newer padded stuff although I've used it in gyms and some of it definitely feels nice on the feet. My memories are turf is no different than green concrete.
 

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I know that's what they do here in Arizona.

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I saw some videos on that when they first made it. I think Arizona was the one to invent it, right? I've always though the rolling fields were pretty cool. The field version of the dome. LOL
 

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Just play the games. Everyone wants to look to blame something on someone or some other issue. When there really is not one.
INJURIES HAPPEN
There were enough injuries just having Sunday and Monday games.

They increase more when you add in Thursday night games.

They increase more when you add Saturday games.

Now throw in an extra game.

But hey, we have less kick returns.

Nfl claims to be all about player safety but we know it is mainly about $$$$$$$$$.
 

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There were enough injuries just having Sunday and Monday games.

They increase more when you add in Thursday night games.

They increase more when you add Saturday games.

Now throw in an extra game.

But hey, we have less kick returns.

Nfl claims to be all about player safety but we know it is mainly about $$$$$$$$$.
All part of the game. And look how much players are getting now. They know the risks. If they don't like it, then renegotiate the CBA come 2030.
 

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Not due to injury. Probably a very small %. Most players are replaced with better players drafted after a few years.
I didn't claim it was to injury. More in response to how much money they make.

Look up the % of players who are broke after leaving the league.
 

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There were enough injuries just having Sunday and Monday games.

They increase more when you add in Thursday night games.

They increase more when you add Saturday games.

Now throw in an extra game.

But hey, we have less kick returns.

Nfl claims to be all about player safety but we know it is mainly about $$$$$$$$$.
Don't forget just all around softening of the game and the preparation in terms of how they practice. The only way to get the body ready to play football is by playing football which means padded practices where people actually tackle one another. The CBA has rendered that all but illegal so guys' bodies simply are not ready to play tackle football when the time comes. So IMHO we see more and more REALLY soft injuries every year. Guys are being taken out without being touched at an alarming rate and when actually being hit by another large human? Fageddaboutit!
 

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I didn't claim it was to injury. More in response to how much money they make.

Look up the % of players who are broke after leaving the league.
Oh, yeah, I know, many are not good with their money. Then again most people aren't no matter what they do for a living.

NFL, more specific, the NFLPA needs to better prepare them.
 

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Grass simply isn't that much safer.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong but I got a 4 year average of 0.0445 for turf and 0.03775 for grass. That's almost a 20% difference. Its certainly not an epic difference but 1 of 5 injured players isn't exactly nothing. Over time I would think that this gives grass teams a slight advantage over turf teams.
 

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Oh, yeah, I know, many are not good with their money. Then again most people aren't no matter what they do for a living.

NFL, more specific, the NFLPA needs to better prepare them.
The league sends people out to the rookies every year and tries to school them on handling their money. And 90% of them just roll their eyes about it. About the only solution would be to take a percentage of the rookie contract and make it mandatory that a large chunk of it go into an IRA or 401K or some sort of account that the kids can't touch until they turn 25 or maybe 30. Handing a 21 or 22 year old millions of dollars is a recipe for disaster 99% of the time. They need to be protected from themselves for the most part. To say nothing of the leeches out there laying in wait to scam them out of them money. Or the "posse" that will help them spend it faster than they can make it.
 

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Oh, yeah, I know, many are not good with their money. Then again most people aren't no matter what they do for a living.

NFL, more specific, the NFLPA needs to better prepare them.
If you subtract kickers, punters and quarterbacks, I am pretty sure the average nfl career is under 3 years. I believe the minimum salary, excluding practice squad, is 750k.

$750,000 x 2.8 years isn't exactly set for life money.

Practice squad is like 215k I think.
 

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If you subtract kickers, punters and quarterbacks, I am pretty sure the average nfl career is under 3 years. I believe the minimum salary, excluding practice squad, is 750k.

$750,000 x 2.8 years isn't exactly set for life money.

Practice squad is like 215k I think.
Probably about 1.5 million bucks after taxes may not be set for life money.. but certainly should be set you up for life money if managed properly.
 

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If it's a league-sponsored study, which I would guess, I wouldn't trust it. League doesn't want to pay for it so they'll claim whatever. Players know their bodies. FIFA soccer requires all games be played on grass.
Its not that hard to validate the data if you reviewed injury reports from teams.
 
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