Would you be mad if Jerry drafted Manzeil?

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I will go on record saying that drafting Manziel would be one if the few times that I would agree with Jerry. As for building around Romo, several years have been wasted making this team "Romo friendly". If it hasn't been friendly enough by now, it sure won't happen in these last couple of years of his career. I think it is time to move on and build for the future.

I think when Jerry said he wanted to make the team Romo friendly, he was talking offense. Unfortunately, Jerry forgot that it also takes a decent defense to win NFL football games.
 

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I think when Jerry said he wanted to make the team Romo friendly, he was talking offense. Unfortunately, Jerry forgot that it also takes a decent defense to win NFL football games.

How so? 2013 Safety Wilcox, CB Webb, LB Holloman, 2012 CB Claiborne, DE Crawford, DE Wilber and Johnson safety, 2012 Carter and 2010 Lee.
 

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How so? 2013 Safety Wilcox, CB Webb, LB Holloman, 2012 CB Claiborne, DE Crawford, DE Wilber and Johnson safety, 2012 Carter and 2010 Lee.

Those are some great picks there. LOL! Just proves my point. And you conveniently left out Escobar. Hmmm.....
 

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Those are some great picks there. LOL! Just proves my point. And you conveniently left out Escobar. Hmmm.....

I did not list him because he was not a defensive player. Dallas has drafted defense 2012 draft are all in the top 3 rounds of those drafts. Lee and Carter 2nd rd picks the point being Dallas is drafting defense so the statment you made that they "Jerry forgot that it also takes a decent defense to win NFL football games" is a BS statement fact is they have and used top picks on defense
As for Escobar what does he have to do with weather Dallas has drafted any Defensive player? Yes he is a TE who plays behind a 12 year vet, how many more years will Witten play? Draft is about not just about today it is about the future as well.
 

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I did not list him because he was not a defensive player. Dallas has drafted defense 2012 draft are all in the top 3 rounds of those drafts. Lee and Carter 2nd rd picks the point being Dallas is drafting defense so the statment you made that they "Jerry forgot that it also takes a decent defense to win NFL football games" is a BS statement fact is they have and used top picks on defense
As for Escobar what does he have to do with weather Dallas has drafted any Defensive player? Yes he is a TE who plays behind a 12 year vet, how many more years will Witten play? Draft is about not just about today it is about the future season.

Drafting Escobar was a wasted pick better suited for a defensive player.

My statement about Jerry forgetting that it takes a decent defense to win is proved out by such a lousy draft defensively the last 2 years.
 

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Disappointed and mad.

Disappointed because you don't draft a QB when he's gonna sit on the bench for 2-3 years.

Mad because I think he's a dousche and don't want to see him in Dallas.

i'm already on massive overload on posts about him and yet, here we have another one just like the last 14 dozen "hey, manziel a cowboy???" posts we've already hashed and rehashed and re-rehashed ad nasium.
 

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Drafting Escobar was a wasted pick better suited for a defensive player.

My statement about Jerry forgetting that it takes a decent defense to win is proved out by such a lousy draft defensively the last 2 years.

based on what your view? lol Witten is a 12 year vet he is not going to play for ever, Dallas saw a chance to get a TE they liked and did so. Wasted I guess we will see how his career pans out.

The scouts liked him and again the draft is not about today it is about your teams future. Use FA which by the way we have used for defense as well Brandon Carr and now Melton. Fact is Dallas has not neglected defense. Crawford getting injured was a big setback for the defense and frankly many of the injuries to defense has hurt but to claim Dallas has not selected defense is laughable.

Sounds pretty much like you think draft is all about today’s needs and nothing more well your entitled to that view.
 

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Lol yea but you say that now. You'll be pulling for him as soon as we draft him if it actually happens.

There would be a bunch of 180 degree changes in opinions if Manziel is the pick. It would be comedy gold.
 

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There would be a bunch of 180 degree changes in opinions if Manziel is the pick. It would be comedy gold.

I hope Dallas does not draft him but seeing that I am a fan I have no say in this at all I have no problem saying that if he becomes a Cowboy I will pull for him be successful. After all I pull for Cowboy players and this team, not my own personal view of who I think we should have picked.
 

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based on what your view? lol Witten is a 12 year vet he is not going to play for ever, Dallas saw a chance to get a TE they liked and did so. Wasted I guess we will see how his career pans out.

The scouts liked him and again the draft is not about today it is about your teams future. Use FA which by the way we have used for defense as well Brandon Carr and now Melton. Fact is Dallas has not neglected defense. Crawford getting injured was a big setback for the defense and frankly many of the injuries to defense has hurt but to claim Dallas has not selected defense is laughable.

Sounds pretty much like you think draft is all about today’s needs and nothing more well your entitled to that view.

If the Cowboys haven't neglected defense, then why has the defense sucked in recent years?
 

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If the Cowboys haven't neglected defense, then why has the defense sucked in recent years?

Defense was beat to hell last year, Ware injured yet again, Spencer out, Crawford out, Lee out and others missing quite a bit of time through out the season. You don't lose that many players and not feel the pain. Neglecting would be if Dallas did nothing to bring players in and that is just not the case. Hell 2012 was almost entirely defense and what was the response here? What about the OL Jerry does not care about the OL. This place is too damn funny at times.
 

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Defense was beat to hell last year, Ware injured yet again, Spencer out, Crawford out, Lee out and others missing quite a bit of time through out the season. You don't lose that many players and not feel the pain. Neglecting would be if Dallas did nothing to bring players in and that is just not the case. Hell 2012 was almost entirely defense and what was the response here? What about the OL Jerry does not care about the OL. This place is too damn funny at times.

They ole injury excuse. Don't you realize that ALL teams suffer injuries? Yet the Cowboys are unable to overcome them. Why is that? Because they have no depth.
 

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They ole injury excuse. Don't you realize that ALL teams suffer injuries? Yet the Cowboys are unable to overcome them. Why is that? Because they have no depth.

No just a reality and yes other teams too will get injuries and the effect of certain injuries can have a major impact on any team. Losing Ware would have been one thing losing your entire DL was another. Bears lose Urlacker and their defense went to crap, 1 fricken player. Yes injuries have to be contended with by all teams and all teams have them but injuries can also have major negitive impact on any team.

Heck Jimmy Johnson loses Emmitt Smith to start a season and we lose both games because of it? Hell Dallas record when any of the triplets missed a game was pretty bad.
 

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I asked because I went over to the NFL.com website and noticed that Mike Mayock guess that the Cowboys would draft Manziel and after reading the post it would seem possible. He also said that if he had the choice, he would draft a DE.

I would be a little mad if that happened. We already have a good QB in Romo why drafted him? Yes he got so much potential and skills but look at the defense right now. It hard to ignore the fact that Jerry Jones has the final say so.

I would be extremely upset. And I feel it would show everyone that Jerry cares about notoriety and name recognition, not about winning.

I hope that is not the case.
 
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