Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[TunaFan33]

Drew finished with an 83.7 rating with 23 TDs and 17 INTs and 3639 yards - second highest in Dallas history. He had his second straight winning season, but only had 10 TDs 11 INTs over the second half. Should he return for 2006?

First-the OL needs to be REVAMPED. Honestly-even Mike Vick couldn't escape THAT pocket.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Sounds good, but it's not real life. In the NFL, the best players play. There's really only one kind of garbage time, when you've clinched home field throughout the playoffs or you can't improve your playoff position with a win. Otherwise you don't play backups.

Pretty much the whole league plays it this way for one simple reason: building a team that plays to win all the time is the way you get all 53 guys giving 110% evey week. You don't sacrifice games so one guy can get experience, and you don't sacrifice season's. If the backup wants to play he needs to outplay the starter in practice or in TC.

Listening to sports talk today most so called experts are saying the Colts are messing up by not playing their top guys most of this past weekends game.

They will be two weeks with out playing. I dont agree but thats what Im hearing.

I do agree with you though.

 

[Kilyin]

First-the OL needs to be REVAMPED. Honestly-even Mike Vick couldn't escape THAT pocket.

Vick sucks and he proved that against Carolina. Overrated garbage.

 

[Homerun Trot]

Listening to sports talk today most so called experts are saying the Colts are messing up by not playing their top guys most of this past weekends game.

They will be two weeks with out playing. I dont agree but thats what Im hearing.

I do agree with you though.

I think they're making a mistake also. You can't turn the switch on and off that easy. But Indy has clinched home field throughout and that's one time when teams do play backups even if it ends up a bad idea.

 

[jterrell]

I am not going to argue with you, like I said, although those questions are valid. Simply because my opinion of you hasn't changed, from your other posts below, where you seem to constantly question intelligence of others with opposing views, IMO.

But I will say one thing, When a QB has proved consistanly throughout his career, that he gets sacked way too much, and makes boneheaded plays in inappropriate times, then thats not abberration anymore. Pointing to one game a good QB had, is not a proof of validity of an argument about QB getting sacked.

And yeah, you and I probably had only one argument, in generally, perhaps I never do seem to agree with your point of view on most occasions, and probably you to mine.

Since you seem committed to a certain opinion of me I'll make this my last post directed to you specifically except where replying.

I find it quite amazing how now so many of our posters, especially ones from Texas, are such experts on the career of Drew Bledsoe.

I think Neil's stats about the teams Bledsoe went to: 1-15 Pats, 3-13 Bills, 6-10 say a little something about why you see excuses offered whereever he is. I know coming here and helping us to a 3 game improvement should earn him some slack and in those other stops they improved rapidly as well.

Folks in Buffalo are now regretting losing Bledsoe. The whole play the kid and get better idea seems alot better when it doesn't cost you games.

Considering Bledsoe is a .500 career QB who had his team 1 game or less from the playoffs 8 out of 13 seasons I'd consider that an accomplishment to have joined such poor teams 3 times. 10 wins 38 losses tell me he joined teams that were awful and got them to mediocre. It doesn't make him great but might provide a little perspective for those hung up on his overall record.

I'm far from wed to Bledsoe but man I'd hate to backtrack to a QB like Carter or Hutch who are nothing but potential. I'll take the 14th most effective QB in the league at 4 mil per season and focus on improving elsewhere.

 

[gbrittain]

Sounds good, but it's not real life. In the NFL, the best players play. There's really only one kind of garbage time, when you've clinched home field throughout the playoffs or you're already in the playoffs but can't improve your playoff position with a win. Otherwise you don't play backups.

Pretty much the whole league plays it this way for one simple reason: building a team that plays to win all the time is the way you get all 53 guys giving 110% evey week. You don't sacrifice games so one guy can get experience, and you don't sacrifice season's. If the backup wants to play he needs to outplay the starter in practice or in TC.

It happens quite often where a young QB is drafted and the "given" playing time over established vets in the interest of doing what is best for the long term of a team.

If a team can make that committment to a player at game 1 of the season, I dont see the problem doing that in say week 15 or 14 when the season is by all reality over.

Last year, there probably were not a couple of guys who played so well that they did not deserve to have an inexperienced QB at the helm.

 

[Trip]

He certainly is cost effective, for the production.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We really just need one of the following:

The I Hate Bledsoe Thread

The I Hate Parcells Thread

The I Hate Zimmer Thread

The I Hate Zimmer BUT We Lover Capers Thread

The I Hate Pettiti Thread

and all the clutter on the front pagte would go away

 

[Sarge]

We really just need one of the following:

The I Hate Bledsoe Thread

The I Hate Parcells Thread

The I Hate Zimmer Thread

The I Hate Zimmer BUT We Lover Capers Thread

The I Hate Pettiti Thread

and all the clutter on the front pagte would go away

Summatter Wuzzy, no presents again this year?

 

[jterrell]

Again maybe not you but most Big Bill does no wrong crowd say that Drew Henson was Jerry Jones doing.

If Drew Henson was not Big Bill's idea, obviously Tony Romo is the only attempt Big Bill has made at a young QB. Tony Romo is much like bunting in a home run derby competition.

If Big Bill did want Henson and saw something in him, for the love of the future make an attempt to get him into a give every now and then at least.

I dont want to hear the excuses as to why Drew could not play last year or this year (Same goes for Tony Romo).

Dallas was playing for nothing last year and we all knew it. Washington game and last night strike me as perfect opportunities as well.

I guess my point it just that regardless of who likes which QB you can only keep 3 Qbs at a time. If the owner loves 1, the coach likes another and you have a starter to placehold until they get better how can that be considered not developing young guys?

I could see last season late playing the young guys.
This year I'd buy it against Wash late.
But against STL not so much. You had prepared Bledsoe all week so it'd be a tough thing to put in a kid at that point: see Phil Rivers in SD.

 

[jterrell]

Let me just throw a few names at you. Byron Leftwich, Chris Simms, Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye, Aaron Rogers, J.P. Losman, and Matt Schaub to name a few.

Before you go and say I said these are all solutions, I did not. I have strong feelings positive and negative for some the QBs I just mentioned. Bottom line is Dallas could have had any of them.

I bet you one of those teams have found them a franchise QB and a decade younger than Drew Bledsoe with more upside than Bledsoe.

So we should cut Henson and draft one of those guys? If not we do what keep 4 guys at the position where 2 really get practice snaps?

I would have loved Leftwich.

Honestly I would not have touched any of the others.
Not at all.

But whose to say Parcell's normal riding of a guy as he has Henson won't make hima very good player in a year or two and build toughness in him. I am not sure I even agree with that mind you, just repeating what Simms has discussed with regards to his own situation.

 

[gbrittain]

I guess my point it just that regardless of who likes which QB you can only keep 3 Qbs at a time. If the owner loves 1, the coach likes another and you have a starter to placehold until they get better how can that be considered not developing young guys?

I could see last season late playing the young guys.
This year I'd buy it against Wash late.
But against STL not so much. You had prepared Bledsoe all week so it'd be a tough thing to put in a kid at that point: see Phil Rivers in SD.

I guess my beef is with Romo. If you assume Henson is JJs project, that means out of all the QBs that have declared for the draft since BP got here Tony Romo is BPs idea of potential franchise QB.

Again, Chris Simms, Charlie Frye, Matt Schaub, Byron Leftwich, and Jason Campbell are just a few names we could have had, but instead we are relying on Tony Romo.

Call Atlanta and see if they will give us Schaub for Romo or call Tampa and see if they will give us Simms for Romo...I know you get my drift.

Yes, it is water under the bridge at this point, but in fairness to myself I am not Johnny come lately with this sentiment. There were other options, it is not like Dallas could not have possibly been better off than we are now. We could have, but BP whiffed.

 

[gbrittain]

So we should cut Henson and draft one of those guys? If not we do what keep 4 guys at the position where 2 really get practice snaps?

I would have loved Leftwich.

Honestly I would not have touched any of the others.
Not at all.

But whose to say Parcell's normal riding of a guy as he has Henson won't make hima very good player in a year or two and build toughness in him. I am not sure I even agree with that mind you, just repeating what Simms has discussed with regards to his own situation.

Just curious, you say you would not have touched any of them at all. I can understand and respect that. Guys like Campbell, Rogers and Losman were all first rounders. However Frye, Schaub, and Simms were all 3rd rounders.

Would you rather have Romo or one of the guys mentioned above. Who do you think is a better project?

Like I said earlier, I am not totally sold on Chris Simms but he is putting up Bledsoe like numbers in only his 3rd year and he has not even played an entire season yet.

 

[jimmy40]

This year we had one of the worst O-lines in the NFL. That Drew still had as many TDs as Troy ever did along with 200 more yards than Troy ever did says something. He delivered 5 game winning drives, four ending on a touchdown pass. His rating of 84 tied his 1996 Super Bowl Pro-Bowl season rating.

I wonder how many of you guys would be Cowboys fans if God and Jesus Christ...I mean Parcells and Bledsoe were with another team.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Since you seem committed to a certain opinion of me I'll make this my last post directed to you specifically except where replying.

I find it quite amazing how now so many of our posters, especially ones from Texas, are such experts on the career of Drew Bledsoe.

I think Neil's stats about the teams Bledsoe went to: 1-15 Pats, 3-13 Bills, 6-10 say a little something about why you see excuses offered whereever he is. I know coming here and helping us to a 3 game improvement should earn him some slack and in those other stops they improved rapidly as well.

Folks in Buffalo are now regretting losing Bledsoe. The whole play the kid and get better idea seems alot better when it doesn't cost you games.

Considering Bledsoe is a .500 career QB who had his team 1 game or less from the playoffs 8 out of 13 seasons I'd consider that an accomplishment to have joined such poor teams 3 times. 10 wins 38 losses tell me he joined teams that were awful and got them to mediocre. It doesn't make him great but might provide a little perspective for those hung up on his overall record.

I'm far from wed to Bledsoe but man I'd hate to backtrack to a QB like Carter or Hutch who are nothing but potential. I'll take the 14th most effective QB in the league at 4 mil per season and focus on improving elsewhere.

First on highlighted portion, first you say I am commited to an opinion of you and other hand you have an commited opinion about "Fans from Texas". And that is the problem with your arguments. You can't have it both ways. You can't say someone is commited to so and so opinion and then come right back and put out an argument that seems like you have firm commitment of.

I have not lived in Texas all the time I watched Football in first place. And I don't just watch Cowboys only in NFL, since I have NFL ticket, I tend to make use of that. Thats what irritates me, when someone assumes they know better than the person they arguing against or have more knowledge in this instance.

Second, on the argument of Buffalo, I have pointed out, that Buffalo made mistake, and even before Cowboys Signed Bledsoe, I said that. But then you generalize and don't know that opinion, and I don't expect you to know that about me either. But at least find out before you put that on a person. First of all Losman was a headcase in College or had a reputation for Head case, so that in itself was a mistake by Buffalo to rely on a guy who had shown zero ability in NFL.

Now with Cowboys case, I heard BP say that he feels Romo and Henson have far better ability than Quincy or Hutchinson. Which means, I would think, since Romo won the BAckup job, he is somehow destined to be starting QB in NFL ( according to many sources, in media at least, that BP thinks ROMO is going to be good). So just becaues Quincy or Hutch were failures, you don't keep trying and settle for just about mediocrity. Bledsoe is what he is, Good QB when he has a berlin wall protecting him, mediocre to absolutely stinky QB when not protected and given all the time in world. Cowboys are not going anywhere with Bledsoe.

I will say this argument will be repeated next season and Bledsoe will be just about the same or worse, even if there are changes in OL. But I am sure, we will all get the same argument that somehow OL is to blame. Now If Bledsoe somehow plays great, especially second half the season next year, you are more than welcome to feed me massive amounts of crow. And I promise I wont say its all because of this player or that player, other than Bledsoe.

 

[iceberg]

Considering Bledsoe is a .500 career QB who had his team 1 game or less from the playoffs 8 out of 13 seasons I'd consider that an accomplishment to have joined such poor teams 3 times..

and danny white got close to the superbowl several times also and that wasn't enough. why should "almost" getting into the playoffs a lot be a PLUS more than a minus?

 

[big_neil]

The top knocks on Drew:

1) Career average only .510
2) Doesn't play well in big games.

But then consider his playoff record is .580.... hmm... could the Bashers possibly ever contradict themselves?

 

[iceberg]

sure it's possible. i dare say we ALL contradict ourselves quite often even if just because someone else didn't understand the meaning of what the other person typed.

or are you saying you could NEVER do that???

 

[big_neil]

why should "almost" getting into the playoffs a lot be a PLUS more than a minus?

Because the QB is only 1 out of the 23 players on the field, so given that is only 4% of the team, could it be that the other 96% of the team could play better as well?

You bashers epitomize the fact that the QB gets more blame than he deserves when we lose.

And Drew is 18-10 (.640) in his last 27 games, so I'm tired of mixing and matching his 1995 record with this season.

 

[big_neil]

28 games rather.