Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[RCowboyFan]

After rereading that and it was what the 1 time we have argued(?), I would again point out you said the "likes of me". I then responded quite reasonably in my honest opinion. Its quite hard to understand how someone tries to quote you with parts of your sentence omitted.

Should we keep the same team in its entirety and only bring in another QB? Say we could trade our whole draft class for Drew Brees do we become awesome next year? Would another Qb have lead us to the playoffs this year? Did Manning not lose the 1 game where he was relentlessly pressured this season?

I am not going to argue with you, like I said, although those questions are valid. Simply because my opinion of you hasn't changed, from your other posts below, where you seem to constantly question intelligence of others with opposing views, IMO.

But I will say one thing, When a QB has proved consistanly throughout his career, that he gets sacked way too much, and makes boneheaded plays in inappropriate times, then thats not abberration anymore. Pointing to one game a good QB had, is not a proof of validity of an argument about QB getting sacked.

And yeah, you and I probably had only one argument, in generally, perhaps I never do seem to agree with your point of view on most occasions, and probably you to mine.

 

[jterrell]

What it means is that you ATTEMPT to find a QB. What efforts has BP made to find a QB?

I dont know if it is true or not, but I have been told by the BP Kool Aid sippers that Drew Henson was Jerry Jones idea.

That means BPs solution to developing the QB of the future is Tony Romo. Like I have said over and over, BP has made no effort to solidify the QB position for the future.

You can like DB all you want, but you bank on it that at this rate Dallas will be in similiar pickle when DB leaves and at 33 years of age that is sooner than later. Dallas will be forced to bring in some discarded vet. People will complain but I guess you will be here to say "What are our better options"?

We have added Henson and Romo in the 3 years Parcells has been here.
How many young QBs does BP need to add?

Wish we had added Aaron Rodgers last year instead of Marcus Spears?
Even if it meant cutting Drew Henson at the end of camp?

I've never said you don't still attempt to find a QB or develop the ones you have. I am all for sending both Henson and Romo overseas to play. I'd also draft a 2nd day QB every year like Ron Wolf advocates. A lot of times its just blind luck with QBs. But I wouldn't take a team who is in the thick of aplayoff chase and force a young Qb on them. We tried that with QC/Hutch/Wright/Steorner and got no where fast. The only thing that does is really allow you to pick high year after year.

We only have 3 QB slots and 2 of them are devoted to young developing QBs. 1 super prospect, all-world athlete and the other to a lifelong winner with intangles coaches seem to love but average at best measurables. Unless we start cutting other positions not sure how we develop more young QBs at once.

 

[iceberg]

Drew has only played 12 full seasons. His debuts at his 3 teams were for the 1-15 1992 Pats, the 3-13 2001 Bills and the 6-10 2004 Cowboys. Not exactly Super Bowl favorites.

That leaves 9 seasons where it was really his team. Of those, he made the playoffs 4 times (where he compiled a 58% winning percentage - better than his 51% regular season record). Drew missed the playoffs by one game 4 times (1999 4000 yards, 2002 4300 yards, 2004 3000 yards, 2005 3600 yards).

Always his fault?

heh, again selective reading. I DID NOT SAY IT WAS ALL HIS FAULT. i just said for whatever reasons trending shows drew to be a little above average for his career.

why some people take that as a slap in his face i just don't know.

 

[big_neil]

Drew should keep playing until his rating falls below 80.

 

[iceberg]

Drew should keep playing until his rating falls below 80.

average in the league is 82 or something like that. maybe "average" is ok for some but i'd like a little more.

 

[big_neil]

Here's the bottom line: you don't want to enter the playoffs as the #6 seed. You don't want to have to play every playoff game on the road. You don't want to go into the final week not knowing if you can make the playoffs. I think it's a major distraction during the week of practice. In the last two seasons Drew was 9-6 (.600) after 15 games. In both cases the team just didn't play well, nor did Drew. I think the fact they had to spend the whole week considering possible outcomes, plus the whole gameday watching the scoreboard, is counterproductive.

This team was a few players away from being a Division winner and potentially a first round bye. Then you actually have a chance in the playoffs. The Patriots had a first round bye in all 3 of their Super Bowl years, and best record overall in 2 of them.

 

[gbrittain]

We have added Henson and Romo in the 3 years Parcells has been here.
How many young QBs does BP need to add?

Wish we had added Aaron Rodgers last year instead of Marcus Spears?
Even if it meant cutting Drew Henson at the end of camp?

I've never said you don't still attempt to find a QB or develop the ones you have. I am all for sending both Henson and Romo overseas to play. I'd also draft a 2nd day QB every year like Ron Wolf advocates. A lot of times its just blind luck with QBs. But I wouldn't take a team who is in the thick of aplayoff chase and force a young Qb on them. We tried that with QC/Hutch/Wright/Steorner and got no where fast. The only thing that does is really allow you to pick high year after year.

We only have 3 QB slots and 2 of them are devoted to young developing QBs. 1 super prospect, all-world athlete and the other to a lifelong winner with intangles coaches seem to love but average at best measurables. Unless we start cutting other positions not sure how we develop more young QBs at once.

Again maybe not you but most Big Bill does no wrong crowd say that Drew Henson was Jerry Jones doing.

If Drew Henson was not Big Bill's idea, obviously Tony Romo is the only attempt Big Bill has made at a young QB. Tony Romo is much like bunting in a home run derby competition.

If Big Bill did want Henson and saw something in him, for the love of the future make an attempt to get him into a give every now and then at least.

I dont want to hear the excuses as to why Drew could not play last year or this year (Same goes for Tony Romo).

Dallas was playing for nothing last year and we all knew it. Washington game and last night strike me as perfect opportunities as well.

 

[big_neil]

At this point we now have only 2 out of 11 voters (18.1%) saying we need a new QB.

 

[Homerun Trot]

oh yea, i've been SO VERY SARCASTIC in my postings and it's NEVER come at me as sarcasm... : )

Even this reply is sarcastic. Perhaps you don't notice it but you are sarcastic a LOT.

and how many times do i have to say (odd since you read this all) i DO NOT HATE BLEDSOE. i just think we'll get what we got for whatever reason next year.

I didn't say you hate him, but if you don't want him back it's safe to say you don't like him. No? If you're going to tell me we're going to have Tucker and Petitti at tackle for most of next year, I'll agree that we should go with a young guy because Bledsoe will not be able to win games by himself. But we're not.

could he break past it and move on? sure he could. but as you yourself said from now from MY POV - for bledsoe to "make it" would be an exception to the rule.

it could happen, but i'd rather bank on a young guy we develop than an old one set in his patterns.

either way if you "hit it" you've got the exception to the rule as most DO NOT "hit it" i think we'd have better odds w/success by going a younger route than thinking drew will suddenly quit being drew and be that exception to the rule.

I respect your opinion. You won't get sarcasm from me.
But there is no reason we can't build a good OL that will allow DB to succeed. His salary is low by starting NFL QB standards so we should be able to afford it. And I don't think anyone would argue that we had a superior OL before FA got hurt, yet DB was the #1 passer in the NFC.

After FA got hurt? It seems patently absurd to blame DB for playing worse with Tucker as the LT. Yet that seems to be the de facto bottom line of this thread from those that think DB isn't the answer. Because noone was bashing him before FA got hurt.

 

[iceberg]

oh, i'm fully aware i'm sarcastic. but believe it or not this is toned down. however, your post made it sound like those i'm talking to have never been sarcastic or "people poking" in their replies. i think so far i've let more roll than i've given back.

 

[big_neil]

Actually we always had bashers. After the Philly win the bashers said "that will never happen again". After the 2nd Philly win the bashers said "it was lucky". After the Carolina win we had bashers saying "the kick was blocked". It will never end. But 5 game winning drives can't be wrong.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Don't lay all this on JJ. Yeah he is to blame for all that happend before BP got here. What effort has BP made to bring in a young QB?

Tony Romo is the answer. That is the only effort BP has made. Considering he was not even drafted, I would not really call that an effort at all.

Who else would you blame before Parcells? Parcells comes here and we go ten and six, do you go after a QB then? What would it have cost to get some young gun out of college? I dont know, but we havnt been in a draft posistion to get one. When we were Jones did nothing but grasp at baseball players.

 

[gbrittain]

At this point we now have only 2 out of 11 voters (18.1%) saying we need a new QB.

Not to burst any bubbles, but that is not at all what the poll is asking and you are the one who posted the poll.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Here's the bottom line: you don't want to enter the playoffs as the #6 seed. You don't want to have to play every playoff game on the road. You don't want to go into the final week not knowing if you can make the playoffs. I think it's a major distraction during the week of practice. In the last two seasons Drew was 9-6 (.600) after 15 games. In both cases the team just didn't play well, nor did Drew. I think the fact they had to spend the whole week considering possible outcomes, plus the whole gameday watching the scoreboard, is counterproductive.

This team was a few players away from being a Division winner and potentially a first round bye. Then you actually have a chance in the playoffs. The Patriots had a first round bye in all 3 of their Super Bowl years, and best record overall in 2 of them.

You dont ?

Once you get in every team is 0-0.

Get there and then worry about the details.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Actually we always had bashers. After the Philly win the bashers said "that will never happen again". After the 2nd Philly win the bashers said "it was lucky". After the Carolina win we had bashers saying "the kick was blocked". It will never end. But 5 game winning drives can't be wrong.

Neither can a 9-7 record and no playoffs there Sparky.

 

[Homerun Trot]

oh, i'm fully aware i'm sarcastic. but believe it or not this is toned down. however, your post made it sound like those i'm talking to have never been sarcastic or "people poking" in their replies. i think so far i've let more roll than i've given back.

Okey dokey.

 

[gbrittain]

Who else would you blame before Parcells? Parcells comes here and we go ten and six, do you go after a QB then? What would it have cost to get some young gun out of college? I dont know, but we havnt been in a draft posistion to get one. When we were Jones did nothing but grasp at baseball players.

Let me just throw a few names at you. Byron Leftwich, Chris Simms, Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye, Aaron Rogers, J.P. Losman, and Matt Schaub to name a few.

Before you go and say I said these are all solutions, I did not. I have strong feelings positive and negative for some the QBs I just mentioned. Bottom line is Dallas could have had any of them.

I bet you one of those teams have found them a franchise QB and a decade younger than Drew Bledsoe with more upside than Bledsoe.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Let me just throw a few names at you. Byron Leftwich, Chris Simms, Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye, Aaron Rogers, J.P. Losman, and Matt Schaub to name a few.

Before you go and say I said these are all solutions, I did not. I have strong feelings positive and negative for some the QBs I just mentioned. Bottom line is Dallas could have had any of them.

I bet you one of those teams have found them a franchise QB and a decade younger than Drew Bledsoe with more upside than Bledsoe.

Im not arguing the fact that there were good QBs avalible, just that GM Jones didnt see the need to get one. He was hell bent on proving his genius and converting players from one sport to another on the cheap. We had opportunity to get a young QB fresh from college, by draft. He chose not to.
Now at 9-7 and eighteenth we dont. Not with out a high price tag.

There were and are to many holes to fill in the last three years to get one.
We missed the boat Aikmans last season IMOP, thats when it should have been addressed.

 

[Homerun Trot]

Again maybe not you but most Big Bill does no wrong crowd say that Drew Henson was Jerry Jones doing.

If Drew Henson was not Big Bill's idea, obviously Tony Romo is the only attempt Big Bill has made at a young QB. Tony Romo is much like bunting in a home run derby competition.

If Big Bill did want Henson and saw something in him, for the love of the future make an attempt to get him into a give every now and then at least.

I dont want to hear the excuses as to why Drew could not play last year or this year (Same goes for Tony Romo).

Dallas was playing for nothing last year and we all knew it. Washington game and last night strike me as perfect opportunities as well.

Sounds good, but it's not real life. In the NFL, the best players play. There's really only one kind of garbage time, when you've clinched home field throughout the playoffs or you're already in the playoffs but can't improve your playoff position with a win. Otherwise you don't play backups.

Pretty much the whole league plays it this way for one simple reason: building a team that plays to win all the time is the way you get all 53 guys giving 110% evey week. You don't sacrifice games so one guy can get experience, and you don't sacrifice season's. If the backup wants to play he needs to outplay the starter in practice or in TC.

 

[gbrittain]

Im not arguing the fact that there were good QBs avalible, just that GM Jones didnt see the need to get one. He was hell bent on proving his genius and converting players from one sport to another on the cheap. We had opportunity to get a young QB fresh from college, by draft. He chose not to.
Now at 9-7 and eighteenth we dont. Not with out a high price tag.

There were and are to many holes to fill in the last three years to get one.
We missed the boat Aikmans last season IMOP, thats when it should have been addressed.

Maybe I am not expressing myself clearly. I am not talking about JJ. We all know he sucked as a GM.

I am talking about opportunities that Bill Parcells himself has passed on. Leftwich, Simms, Campbell, Rogers, Schaub, Losman and Frye to name a few are QBs that Big Bill has passed on.