Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[Cowchips]

I wonder how many of you guys would be Cowboys fans if God and Jesus Christ...I mean Parcells and Bledsoe were with another team.

I don't think Parcells is God. However, I'm convinced Parcells had God playing for him somewhere along the way

 

[Homerun Trot]

It happens quite often where a young QB is drafted and the "given" playing time over established vets in the interest of doing what is best for the long term of a team.

If a team can make that committment to a player at game 1 of the season, I dont see the problem doing that in say week 15 or 14 when the season is by all reality over.

Last year, there probably were not a couple of guys who played so well that they did not deserve to have an inexperienced QB at the helm.

Usually that happens like it did with Bledsoe in NE, the team is really bad and is in full rebuilding mode with a top draft pick. If the backup here was Carson Palmer or Eli Manning I could see the point because you don't chew up a bunch of your cap and a very high draft choice for the guy to sit for long. But it can be divisive if the guy you bring in isn't ready. Look at the situation in Buffalo as an example.

I think BP fully intended to bring in a vet for this year, whether it was Bledsoe or someone else. He wasn't going to change that line of thinking based on a couple quarters worth of solid play in garbage time from Romo or Henson IMO.

 

[Homerun Trot]

and danny white got close to the superbowl several times also and that wasn't enough. why should "almost" getting into the playoffs a lot be a PLUS more than a minus?

I think Danny White was a fine QB. The QB always gets too much credit when the team wins and too much abuse when they lose IMO. This idea that a great QB "lifts" mediocre talent to championships is a lot of hooey. Show me a great QB and I'll show you a lot of great players around him.

 

[iceberg]

Because the QB is only 1 out of the 23 players on the field, so given that is only 4% of the team, could it be that the other 96% of the team could play better as well?

You bashers epitomize the fact that the QB gets more blame than he deserves when we lose.

And Drew is 18-10 (.640) in his last 27 games, so I'm tired of mixing and matching his 1995 record with this season.

yea, and when drew had a good game (and he did have several) you never came in here with an I TOLD YA SO have ya? : )

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I wonder how many of you guys would be Cowboys fans if God and Jesus Christ...I mean Parcells and Bledsoe were with another team.

LOL!

Sad but true!

 

[Homerun Trot]

I guess my beef is with Romo. If you assume Henson is JJs project, that means out of all the QBs that have declared for the draft since BP got here Tony Romo is BPs idea of potential franchise QB.

Again, Chris Simms, Charlie Frye, Matt Schaub, Byron Leftwich, and Jason Campbell are just a few names we could have had, but instead we are relying on Tony Romo.

Call Atlanta and see if they will give us Schaub for Romo or call Tampa and see if they will give us Simms for Romo...I know you get my drift.

Yes, it is water under the bridge at this point, but in fairness to myself I am not Johnny come lately with this sentiment. There were other options, it is not like Dallas could not have possibly been better off than we are now. We could have, but BP whiffed.

This is 20/20 hindsight IMO. Henson was widely regarded as a bold and potentially blockbuster move at the time for the cost of a 3rd rounder- it's still possible it will be but I have my doubts. Neither Schaub nor Simms were considered sure thing starters, that's why both lasted until mid to late 3rd round. Saying we would have been better investing in either is true but you could say that about any draft pick, right? Any what GM doesn't "whiff" on at least than half of their 3rd round picks?

If BP likes Romo, why are you ruling him out as a potential starting QB? The only knock on him really is his arm strength and that can be increased with workouts. Drew Brees supposedly increased his arm strength by 25% in one year with his workouts.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Summatter Wuzzy, no presents again this year?

Who needs presents when we have you?

Eww I just threw up in my mouth.

 

[big_neil]

Speaking of stats, this poll leads the current list by a 29/11 ratio if you sort by Views. After 250+ replies, the consensus is that 9/11 people want Drew here next year (a trick to know your 11th fractions - just multiply the numerator by 9 and repeat. Thus 9/11 is .818181).

 

[big_neil]

PS - isn't it intersesting to note that this season, despite Drew's stat-killing final meaningless game, Drew's rating was higher than Roger Staubach's and Troy Aikman's career ratings yet a lot of die-hard fans say he's not nearly as good?

 

[Hostile]

PS - isn't it intersesting to note that this season, despite Drew's stat-killing final meaningless game, Drew's rating was higher than Roger Staubach's and Troy Aikman's career ratings yet a lot of die-hard fans say he's not nearly as good?

He isn't nearly as good Neil. By all means call any Head Coach or GM in the NFL and ask them to rank in order which guy they'd want in their prime or to build a franchise around.

Your consensus would be...

1. Staubach
2. Aikman

a distant 3. Bledsoe

If you don't understand their impact on the game isn't about a silly QB rating no one is going to be able to help you.

 

[gbrittain]

PS - isn't it intersesting to note that this season, despite Drew's stat-killing final meaningless game, Drew's rating was higher than Roger Staubach's and Troy Aikman's career ratings yet a lot of die-hard fans say he's not nearly as good?

I promise what ever credibility you have among some here will all be lost if you dare for a second think that Drew is anywhere near Staubach or Aikman.

The stats tell part of a story, but not the whole story.

 

[RCowboyFan]

He isn't nearly as good Neil. By all means call any Head Coach or GM in the NFL and ask them to rank in order which guy they'd want in their prime or to build a franchise around.

Your consensus would be...

1. Staubach
2. Aikman

a distant 3. Bledsoe

If you don't understand their impact on the game isn't about a silly QB rating no one is going to be able to help you.

That would be Passer rating not QB rating, according BP. QBing involves more than just passer rating, per BP, so he must not have not gotten that Memo.

Isn't strange, that some of the same arguments we are hearing for Bledsoe we heard about Quincy/Chad? Albeit, Bledsoe is indeed more talented than those two buffoons ( heck I did think at one point, both would be good, when they started for Cowboys).

 

[gbrittain]

PS - isn't it intersesting to note that this season, despite Drew's stat-killing final meaningless game, Drew's rating was higher than Roger Staubach's and Troy Aikman's career ratings yet a lot of die-hard fans say he's not nearly as good?

BTW a better comparison would be to Danny White.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

BTW a better comparison would be to Danny White.

And Danny White was a better passer than Bledsoe...

 

[big_neil]

He isn't nearly as good Neil.

He's not. However, to say this season wasn't good enough seems ironic if your legends career rating was lesser. If Staubach and Aikman were legends, then by achieving a passer rating on their level, Drew proved he's good enough. Aikman never had over 3500 yards and only once did he have 23 TDs. Drew just did it for the 8th and 5th times.

Despite patting the ball, happy feet, holding it too long, too many sacks, bad decision, and interceptions, he outdid some of your legends in measurable categories, on a much lesser team (please don't pretend this Dallas team was on par with the ones Staubach and Aikman were blessed with). To imply Drew isn't good enough when Aikman (81 Dallas career rating) and Staubach (83.6 Dallas career rating) are immortal and Drew (83.7 Dallas career rating) is not good enough can be proven wrong.

 

[big_neil]

And Danny White was a better passer than Bledsoe...

Just like Bledsoe crushed his season rating on the last play - so does Michael by spewing out such rubbish:

Danny White had 155 TDs in 166 games. That is about 15 TDs per season for 10 seasons, less than 1 per game.

Danny White had 1.17 TDs for every INT. Drew has 1.23 TDs for every INT.

Danny White had about 21800 yards in 166 games - 132 yards per game average in his career. Drew averages 100 yards per game more at 232 yards per game.

Danny White can not be found in the top 20 for any major category. Drew is there for Yards (7), Completions (5), Attempts (5), TDs (13t), OT TDs (1), and Game Winning Drives (33).

 

[Hostile]

He's not. However, to say this season wasn't good enough seems ironic if your legends career rating was lesser. If Staubach and Aikman were legends, then by achieving a passer rating on their level, Drew proved he's good enough. Aikman never had over 3500 yards and only once did he have 23 TDs. Drew just did it for the 8th and 5th times.

Despite patting the ball, happy feet, holding it too long, too many sacks, bad decision, and interceptions, he outdid some of your legends in measurable categories, on a much lesser team (please don't pretend this Dallas team was on par with the ones Staubach and Aikman were blessed with). To imply Drew isn't good enough when Aikman (81 Dallas career rating) and Staubach (83.6 Dallas career rating) are immortal and Drew (83.7 Dallas career rating) is not good enough can be proven wrong.

Let me explain something to you. Please take this in the spirit intended.

This isn't the Patriots or the Bills. We have HIGHER standards than even the Patrots. They are way the hell up there. Let me explain why.

This team was born in 1960. Our first superstar QB was a guy named Don Meredith. Meredith was a tough SOB. He also brought a winner's mentality with him. 6 years into the History of this franchise we were 10-3-1 and playing the Packers for the right to be called the best.

When Meredith retired we were blessed to have this raw kid from Navy named Roger Staubach. 5 of the prime years of his life were devoted to the service of this country. 2 years after we got him we won a Super Bowl, SB VI after being the runner up for V.

Players like Meredith and Staubach had us contending for the right to win it all every year for 20 straight seasons. Yeah, that spoiled us. We won 2 SBs under Staubach and played in 2 more.

I'll tell you what you've been told dozens of times but seemingly can't grasp, that era was not an era of passers with big ratings.

You tell me Drew has better ratings I'll tell you "so the hell what." I don't care. QB rating is the dumbest individual stat ever created. It doesn't fairly measure anything. You want to know how we measure Staubach? It's real easy, he won and won and won and won. Every year the Cowboys were in the picture.

You want to downplay that go ahead, but trust me you don't look smart throwing out your little stats and trying it. 4 Super Bowls and 2 wins plus multiple runs at the playoffs and NFC Championships weigh heavier than 9-7 because of a poor o-line. It just does.

Staubach retired and Danny White kept us winning as part of those 20 years. 20 years of winning Neil. Don't sneeze at that. It's a run you'll never see in the NFL ever again. You want a stat that is monumental? There it is. 20 straight winning seasons.

When Troy Aikman came along we had gone from the top of the mountain to the door mat. He took us back to the top of the mountain 3 times in 4 years and contending 2 or 3 years as well.

Around these parts that is respected, revered, and honored.

You see, I care very little about stats. I care very much about impact. Your guy doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as my 2 guys as far as impact on the game. Gaudy career stats be damned. I'll take the 5 Super Bowls those 2 men brought us over him setting passing records every year and no wins.

9-7 Neil. It is what it is. Part of it is on Drew. Not all of it. Not by a damn site. Part of it is his. He did exactly what his detractors said he would. I like Bledsoe, but I will recognize that he fulfilled the predictions. Even if it chaps your hide.

9-7 isn't good enough. It wouldn't be good enough with Staubach or Aikman either. The difference is they have skins on the wall. Drew doesn't.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Let me explain something to you. Please take this in the spirit intended.

This isn't the Patriots or the Bills. We have HIGHER standards than even the Patrots. They are way the hell up there. Let me explain why.

This team was born in 1960. Our first superstar QB was a guy named Don Meredith. Meredith was a tough SOB. He also brought a winner's mentality with him. 6 years into the History of this franchise we were 10-3-1 and playing the Packers for the right to be called the best.

When Meredith retired we were blessed to have this raw kid from Navy named Roger Staubach. 5 of the prime years of his life were devoted to the service of this country. 2 years after we got him we won a Super Bowl, SB VI after being the runner up for V.

Players like Meredith and Staubach had us contending for the right to win it all every year for 20 straight seasons. Yeah, that spoiled us. We won 2 SBs under Staubach and played in 2 more.

I'll tell you what you've been told dozens of times but seemingly can't grasp, that era was not an era of passers with big ratings.

You tell me Drew has beter ratings I'll tell you so the hell what. I don't care. QB rating is the dumbest individual stat ever created. It doesn't fairly measure anything. You want to know how we measure Staubach? It's real easy, he won and won and won and won. Every year the Cowboys were in the picture.

You want to downplay that go ahead but trust me you don't look smart throwing out your little stats and trying it. 4 Super Bowls and 2 wins plus multiple runs at the playoffs and NFC Championships weigh heavier than 9-7 because of a poor o-line. It just does.

Staubach retired and Danny White kept us winning as part of those 20 years. 20 years of winning Neil. Don't sneeze at that. It's a run you'll never see in the NFL ever again. You want a stat that is monumental? There it is. 20 straight winning seasons.

When Troy Aikman came along we had gone from the top of the mountain to the door mat. He took us back to the top of the mountain 3 times in 4 years and contending 2 or 3 years as well.

Around these parts that is respected, revered, and honored.

You see, I care very little about stats. I care very much about impact. Your guy doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as my 2 guys as far as impact on the game. Gaudy career stats be damnd. I'll take the 5 Super Bowls those 2 men brought us over him setting passing records every year and no wins.

9-7 Neil. It is what it is. Part of it is on Drew. Not all of it. Not by a damn site. Part of it is his. He did exactly what his detractors said he would. I like Bledsoe, but I will recognize that he fulfilled the predictions. Even if it chaps your hide.

9-7 isn't good enough. It wouldn't be good enough with Staubach or Aikman either. The difference is they have skins on the wall. Drew doesn't.

Very,Very, well said.

 

[iceberg]

Very,Very, well said.

how do you follow that up?

 

[StanleySpadowski]

But, but, but, Hos, Bledsoe has a SB ring (please ignore that he was a backup).

Well said BTW.

Some people care about stats or $$$, competitors only care about winning. Ask someone like Jim Kelly if they wouldn't trade their HOF career for someone's like Brad Johnson. What do you think they'd say? I have and already know the answer, except I use Jeff Hostetler.