Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[Maikeru-sama]

OMG, I doubled over with laughter, my kids thought I was going nuts.

Now that was funny. Hope it was meant to be.

Nope, wasnt a joke, im glad you found it amusing...my goal is always to bring some laughter to the word.

I made some excuses for Quincy Carter, even though I never thought he was the answer.

I will give Drew Bledsoe the same benefits, even though I dont think he is the answer either.

- Mike G.

 

[Ashwynn]

i'd say the same thing, nc.

i just don't know what to say about all the other years. is it ALWAYS someone elses fault?

sometimes pple cause a confluence of circumstances to cast doubt on their true ability till they arrive at the appointed time for fate to unveil the real persons true extent of their abilities.

Could be Bledsoes one of these, being kept under suspision, only to be let loose by the Cowboys, who saw through all that and put the pieces around him to be the ultimate QB.

I dont know, just trying to give you straws to grasp at. I hope you can teardown your brick wall and learn to embrace the greatness that is Bledsoe.

 

[Homerun Trot]

Just a few observations from reading this thread start to finish.

The guys that either don't like Bledsoe (winicki, Iceberg) and the ones that think he's good but not good enough (Hos) are generally sarcastic in making their points IMO.

Bledsoe has been compared unfavorably with Montana and Aikman in this thread. I won't attempt to argue he's better than either one. But it seems to me such comparisons miss a very basic point: how many games would this Cowboys team have won with either one of those great QB's as opposed to Bledsoe? Was this a championship team with a better QB? Or was the lack of a competant kicker and unacceptable play at tackle the real issues not matter who was under center?

Age has been brought up. The fact is many QB's play some of their best football in their mid thirties. It's funny someone brought up 37 year old Brad Johnson, a guy who played well this year but to my knowledge did not lose his LT. He was 7-2, but would he have been 7-2 behind Tucker and Petitti? Just asking. John Elway was 37 when he won his first SB, 38 when he won his 2nd. Not comparing him to Bledsoe, just pointing out age is not really a problem for 33 year old Bledsoe.

And saying you want something better than Bledsoe is fine and dandy, but drafting and playing a rookie QB is almost a sure formula for losing for at least two years. Don't bother citing exceptions to that rule- there are a few- but they are most definetely exceptions. By the time that young QB has a clue, if he ever does, Bill Parcells will be gone. So wishing for a young QB is to wish for a new random coach. The odds are that this new coach will not be of Parcells level (fact) just are the odds are extermely low that the new QB will finish top 10 all time in yards, attempts and completions like Bledsoe.

Personally I am very happy with the progress this team made this year. Parcells and Bledsoe both have their warts, but I'll take them both warts and all. And even in this ultra competitive NFL, I like our chances next year with both. The alternatives always sound better in theory, just like the backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team, until he has to play of course.

 

[gbrittain]

Thats like refusing to answer an esay question because you don't remember the exact wording of the correct response instead of trying for some credit.

How many teams have an "ultimate answer" at QB?
Should those teams just not bother to field a team?

How many of the 12 playoff teams have the "ultimate answer" at QB?
When Tampa won the SB did they have the ultimate answer?
Did the Ravens?

When you get that answer how long does it last?
Does it mean you win a SB?

What it means is that you ATTEMPT to find a QB. What efforts has BP made to find a QB?

I dont know if it is true or not, but I have been told by the BP Kool Aid sippers that Drew Henson was Jerry Jones idea.

That means BPs solution to developing the QB of the future is Tony Romo. Like I have said over and over, BP has made no effort to solidify the QB position for the future.

You can like DB all you want, but you bank on it that at this rate Dallas will be in similiar pickle when DB leaves and at 33 years of age that is sooner than later. Dallas will be forced to bring in some discarded vet. People will complain but I guess you will be here to say "What are our better options"?

 

[Ashwynn]

Nope, wasnt a joke, im glad you found it amusing...my goal is always to bring some laughter to the word.

I made some excuses for Quincy Carter, even though I never thought he was the answer.

I will give Drew Bledsoe the same benefits, even though I dont think he is the answer either.

- Mike G.

well I apoligize for seeing humor in that, not sure why I did. But thats a cool stance. I like that in pple, shows compassion and patience. Rare. Your a good guy.

 

[gbrittain]

Bledsoe was number two at being sacked, only behind Carr. Ide say our O line played a huge part in Bledsoes season decline. No matter his history.

You will not see me denyting that our O line has to rebuilt. However, I would have to say that due to Bledsoe's mobility issues and holding the ball the way he does some of those sacks are due strictly to him.

Again, I do not defend that poor excuse of an OL.

 

[Jarv]

Awesome, glad thats all good. I was worried, there is a condition that is you lef persist will turn a Cowboy fan into a Skins fan, Did not want to lose you to that dreaded disease.

We gunna have to agree to disagree, I say the opposite, the positives with Drew outweigh the negitive and certainly beats the alternatives at this point in time. With the offseason, who knows what options are out there. I am not married to Drew, I just like him this year as my QB, if we can do better, I am all for that. I just dont understand crying about a guy thats been as good as Bledsoe has been this year. Thats my whole point of contention.

Right now we have 3 QB's on our roster. Bledsoe is the starter and Romo #2, Henson #3. Next season I want another QB brought in and let the 4 of them battle it out for the starting spot.

If Bledsoe wins fair and square, fine. But for it to be fair all 4 must have an equal shot to become the starter.

To be honest with ya bro, half my problem (and I do have a problem) is that Bledsoe was just annoited the position. When I see the negatives, I just want him replaced (shall we say gut reaction). Also knowing he would never be replaced barring injury.

If Romo or Henson were playing and threw an interception, bingo he would throw Bledsoe out there in a second...just not the other way around.

Bledsoe all in all played well, just we will never get a chance to see what else someone could do at the position...Even when the games where out of hand (Washington, 1st Philly game)...and we have no chance in the playoffs...Last night.

Romo and Henson could be all world, or suck. I haven't seen anything from either one of them since they were playing with the 5th stringers in August.

 

[Ashwynn]

Just a few observations from reading this thread start to finish.

The guys that either don't like Bledsoe (winicki, Iceberg) and the ones that think he's good but not good enough (Hos) are generally sarcastic in making their points IMO.

Bledsoe has been compared unfavorably with Montana and Aikman in this thread. I won't attempt to argue he's better than either one. But it seems to me such comparisons miss a very basic point: how many games would this Cowboys team have won with either one of those great QB's as opposed to Bledsoe? Was this a championship team with a better QB? Or was the lack of a competant kicker and unacceptable play at tackle the real issues not matter who was under center?

Age has been brought up. The fact is many QB's play some of their best football in their mid thirties. It's funny someone brought up 37 year old Brad Johnson, a guy who played well this year but to my knowledge did not lose his LT. He was 7-2, but would he have been 7-2 behind Tucker and Petitti? Just asking. John Elway was 37 when he won his first SB, 38 when he won his 2nd. Not comparing him to Bledsoe, just pointing out age is not really a problem for 33 year old Bledsoe.

And saying you want something better than Bledsoe is fine and dandy, but drafting and playing a rookie QB is almost a sure formula for losing for at least two years. Don't bother citing exceptions to that rule- there are a few- but they are most definetely exceptions. By the time that young QB has a clue, if he ever does, Bill Parcells will be gone. So wishing for a young QB is to wish for a new random coach. The odds are that this new coach will not be of Parcells level (fact) just are the odds are extermely low that the new QB will finish top 10 all time in yards, attempts and completions like Bledsoe.

Personally I am very happy with the progress this team made this year. Parcells and Bledsoe both have their warts, but I'll take them both warts and all. And even in this ultra competitive NFL, I like our chances next year with both. The alternatives always sound better in theory, just like the backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team, until he has to play of course.

Well said.

 

[jterrell]

Ok, here is the one about "Smart":

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=657086#post657086

And here is another one about my lack of 7th grade level English comperhension:

In the same link above post no. 150


Since those discussions I have been trying not read your posts, 2-3 I read is one of the one posted now. I don't mind people calling me out if I make some point they think I am wrong on etc, or how wrong my arguments or posts are.

But It bugs me when people point out English or how smarter they are, as an argument, even if it is someone I agree with . Thats when I know I cannot argue in a civil manner. I have been on these Board/Chats , Early IRC days, enough to know, that type of arguments leads to only insults etc.

After rereading that and it was what the 1 time we have argued(?), I would again point out you said the "likes of me". I then responded quite reasonably in my honest opinion. Its quite hard to understand how someone tries to quote you with parts of your sentence omitted.

Should we keep the same team in its entirety and only bring in another QB? Say we could trade our whole draft class for Drew Brees do we become awesome next year? Would another Qb have lead us to the playoffs this year? Did Manning not lose the 1 game where he was relentlessly pressured this season?

 

[iceberg]

Just a few observations from reading this thread start to finish.

The guys that either don't like Bledsoe (winicki, Iceberg) and the ones that think he's good but not good enough (Hos) are generally sarcastic in making their points IMO.

Bledsoe has been compared unfavorably with Montana and Aikman in this thread. I won't attempt to argue he's better than either one. But it seems to me such comparisons miss a very basic point: how many games would this Cowboys team have won with either one of those great QB's as opposed to Bledsoe? Was this a championship team with a better QB? Or was the lack of a competant kicker and unacceptable play at tackle the real issues not matter who was under center?

Age has been brought up. The fact is many QB's play some of their best football in their mid thirties. It's funny someone brought up 37 year old Brad Johnson, a guy who played well this year but to my knowledge did not lose his LT. He was 7-2, but would he have been 7-2 behind Tucker and Petitti? Just asking. John Elway was 37 when he won his first SB, 38 when he won his 2nd. Not comparing him to Bledsoe, just pointing out age is not really a problem for 33 year old Bledsoe.

And saying you want something better than Bledsoe is fine and dandy, but drafting and playing a rookie QB is almost a sure formula for losing for at least two years. Don't bother citing exceptions to that rule- there are a few- but they are most definetely exceptions. By the time that young QB has a clue, if he ever does, Bill Parcells will be gone. So wishing for a young QB is to wish for a new random coach. The odds are that this new coach will not be of Parcells level (fact) just are the odds are extermely low that the new QB will finish top 10 all time in yards, attempts and completions like Bledsoe.

Personally I am very happy with the progress this team made this year. Parcells and Bledsoe both have thie warts, but I'll take them both warts and all. And even in this ultra competitive NFL, I like our chances next year with both. The alternatives always sound better in theory, just like the backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team, until he has to play of course.

oh yea, i've been SO VERY SARCASTIC in my postings and it's NEVER come at me as sarcasm... : )

and how many times do i have to say (odd since you read this all) i DO NOT HATE BLEDSOE. i just think we'll get what we got for whatever reason next year.

could he break past it and move on? sure he could. but as you yourself said from now from MY POV - for bledsoe to "make it" would be an exception to the rule.

it could happen, but i'd rather bank on a young guy we develop than an old one set in his patterns.

either way if you "hit it" you've got the exception to the rule as most DO NOT "hit it" i think we'd have better odds w/success by going a younger route than thinking drew will suddenly quit being drew and be that exception to the rule.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

well I apoligize for seeing humor in that, not sure why I did. But thats a cool stance. I like that in pple, shows compassion and patience. Rare. Your a good guy.

Man, I think I need some...

But in all seriousness,

I really put most of the blame on Bill Parcells and his staff shoulders for our decline.

They

-Refuse to be innovative when key personell went down
-Opened it up some games and was very conservative the next
-Poor late game decision making cost us (1st Skins and Seattle)
-Should have let Tucker fly solo and only protected Petitti

...just too many things they did wrong, Bledsoe is waaaaay at the bottom of my list of what went wrong.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Just a few observations from reading this thread start to finish.

The guys that either don't like Bledsoe (winicki, Iceberg) and the ones that think he's good but not good enough (Hos) are generally sarcastic in making their points IMO.

Bledsoe has been compared unfavorably with Montana and Aikman in this thread. I won't attempt to argue he's better than either one. But it seems to me such comparisons miss a very basic point: how many games would this Cowboys team have won with either one of those great QB's as opposed to Bledsoe? Was this a championship team with a better QB? Or was the lack of a competant kicker and unacceptable play at tackle the real issues not matter who was under center?

Age has been brought up. The fact is many QB's play some of their best football in their mid thirties. It's funny someone brought up 37 year old Brad Johnson, a guy who played well this year but to my knowledge did not lose his LT. He was 7-2, but would he have been 7-2 behind Tucker and Petitti? Just asking. John Elway was 37 when he won his first SB, 38 when he won his 2nd. Not comparing him to Bledsoe, just pointing out age is not really a problem for 33 year old Bledsoe.

And saying you want something better than Bledsoe is fine and dandy, but drafting and playing a rookie QB is almost a sure formula for losing for at least two years. Don't bother citing exceptions to that rule- there are a few- but they are most definetely exceptions. By the time that young QB has a clue, if he ever does, Bill Parcells will be gone. So wishing for a young QB is to wish for a new random coach. The odds are that this new coach will not be of Parcells level (fact) just are the odds are extermely low that the new QB will finish top 10 all time in yards, attempts and completions like Bledsoe.

Personally I am very happy with the progress this team made this year. Parcells and Bledsoe both have their warts, but I'll take them both warts and all. And even in this ultra competitive NFL, I like our chances next year with both. The alternatives always sound better in theory, just like the backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team, until he has to play of course.

I agree 100% with what you wrote, at the same time I do see where some guys are coming from on the young QB posistion. I just dont see where we are in a posistion to get one. When we were JJ decided to go after Carters and Hutchinsons. So now we are where we are.

 

[gbrittain]

I agree 100% with what you wrote, at the same time I do see where some guys are coming from on the young QB posistion. I just dont see where we are in a posistion to get one. When we were JJ decided to go after Carters and Hutchinsons. So now we are where we are.

Don't lay all this on JJ. Yeah he is to blame for all that happend before BP got here. What effort has BP made to bring in a young QB?

Tony Romo is the answer. That is the only effort BP has made. Considering he was not even drafted, I would not really call that an effort at all.

 

[big_neil]

The poll is now showing that only 1 out of 5 voters think we need a new QB. 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend Trident, and 4 out of 5 Dallas Fans recommend Bledsoe.

 

[Trip]

Put some options up there, like who would you rather have Bledsoe or Culpepper?

 

[jterrell]

Wow, did you even read my post.

Drew has a lot of positive stats and a lot of negatives ones.

He threw for a lot of TD's and Yards. He was sacked alot, gave up too many fumbles and had some bad INT's.


To me, the negative outweigh the postive.

By the way, my Dr. did check my gut, besides it being larger than it should be, everything else is fine

I've been a fan since 1971, rarely ever miss a game. I root for whatever QB we have on the field. the only difference between you and I is that now that the season is over I would rather see another QB play for us.

if Bledsoe is the QB next year I'll root for him again. IMHO I would rather see see someone else out there, so shoot me.

Bledsoe tossed 6 more TDs then INTs. How many is he allowed? He tossed 17. Brady tossed 14 for comparison's sake.

Bledsoe did lose fumbles 8 times. That is alot but its not like he does that every season. He also doesn't always get sacked that much. He's had more than 5 lost fumbles twice in his career.

Every QB has negative plays. I'd much rather have P. Manning's 10 picks and 2 lost fumbles but I'd also love Manning's OL.

Ultimately I find it quite hard to believe we can't win games with Bledsoe considering we won 9 this year and the things we were supposed to HAVE to have for him to succeed at all were not there in the second half at all.

I would be working to improve the OL regardless of what QB was starting next year but with an improved OL I think Bledsoe gives us a good chance to win games.

 

[big_neil]

i'd say the same thing, nc.

i just don't know what to say about all the other years. is it ALWAYS someone elses fault?

Drew has only played 12 full seasons. His debuts at his 3 teams were for the 1-15 1992 Pats, the 3-13 2001 Bills and the 6-10 2004 Cowboys. Not exactly Super Bowl favorites.

That leaves 9 seasons where it was really his team. Of those, he made the playoffs 4 times (where he compiled a 58% winning percentage - better than his 51% regular season record). Drew missed the playoffs by one game 4 times (1999 4000 yards, 2002 4300 yards, 2004 3000 yards, 2005 3600 yards).

Always his fault?

 

[Jarv]

I would be working to improve the OL regardless of what QB was starting next year but with an improved OL I think Bledsoe gives us a good chance to win games.

I agree 100%.

Give me an improved O-line and an open competition at QB. And I'll live with the results...Ok.

 

[big_neil]

I would be working to improve the OL regardless of what QB was starting next year but with an improved OL I think Bledsoe gives us a good chance to win games.

A refreshing glimpse inside a non-corrupted mind.

 

[Clove]

I've never seen a Quarterback projected as a bust and didn't have the chance to prove it on the field (Henson/Romo)

The fact is, I don't give a birds nuts about what you see in practice, some people are just flat out performers. They perform according to the action around then and are just instinctive.

BP has ticked me off to no end and he is willing to play Vinny/Bledsoe and say Henson/Romo is not ready for action , Yeah like Petitti was? Petitti couldn't keep a 2nd grader from getting to the quarterback. Yeah that's intelligent.... Won't let Henson/Romo touch the field because they throw interceptions and won't give us the best chance to win.

Cool, I guess Bledsoe gave us a chance to get to the playoffs. We are handicapped by BP and his stubborness to build for the future. If we had an o-line he would just be a bus driver, because that's what he is. I don't care about numbers, I care about victories..Someone who is instinctive and can get the ball out just before being smashed by a lineman.

He isn't the one, however we need him here until we get another QB groomed so I voted yes..