Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[kmd24]

In today's NFL I find this to be a strange statement. No one is that good. You're basically telling me with that last comment that for the next 5 years we won't have opportunities to draft someone who will turn out to be better. This totally flies in the face of all relevant history including Bledsoe's. Does the name Tom Brady ring any bells?

No it doesn't. I already posted this fact, but I am happy to repeat it for you. Of all the modern free agency era QB's (18), only Bledsoe and Brady have reached the SB prior to their fifth pro season. That it what I am basing my statement upon.

Maybe we'll get lucky and hit with Romo or Henson, or maybe a draftee, but in general it is a slow process with QB's.

BTW, my statement has less to do with how good Bledsoe is and more to do with how difficult it is in today's NFL to hit on a QB and develop him quickly. Even if Dallas manages to secure a top flight player in the draft, it will take some time for him to develop.

Top echelon guys just don't become available in FA. And I am considering Bledsoe when I make that statement.

You're also telling me that there is no way Henson or Romo could play as good or better. I'm interested in knowing how you can determine this? Upon what do you base this that is factual and not speculation?

I'm not saying this. I actually think Romo or Henson are the best shot the Cowboys have at improving the position in the short term (not immediately), but the general consensus is that both have a long road ahead of them. I think either would be a step back before taking several steps forward. But you have to try at some point.

What I think will happen is that Drew will start for the next couple of years, and then one of the young guys will come in and take a couple years to get his feet under him.

Maybe it is better to start the process now, but it seems to me that the team is on the cusp of something big in the immediate future, and I'd hate to see the Cowboys take a step back now for the sake of something nebulous and in the more distant future.

You're also telling me that no player who may be a Free Agent in the next 5 years will be as good. No one? How in the world has Drew Bledsoe not won 13 straight Super Bowls? I mean this is Herculean legendary status we are approaching.

Hopefully someone will become available, but past history suggests such players won't be available. Of the guys who project to be FA in the near future, none seem very exciting to me. It's been that way for several years now.

You're also telling me that for the next 5 years he'll be 100% healthy. How do you know this? Where can I buy that crystal ball? I want one.

Pretty hard to say whether any QB will be healthy. Bledsoe has been pretty durable, so I don't see why anyone should predict otherwise for the next couple years. Maybe you're the one with the crystal ball?

Just to avoid confusion, I'm not saying that DB will be the Cowboys QB for the next 5 years. If that's what you inferred, you are reading too much into what I said.

Now, as to my thread earlier about expectations, let's be honest shall we. The thread author who admits he is not a Cowboys fan, but is a Bledsoe fan, posted a comment that Drew Bledsoe compares favorably to Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach. Upon what did he base this claim? On QB ratings. My reply regarding explanations was in reaction to that silly contention. Are you now telling me Bledsoe does compare favorably to Aikman and Staubach? If so I'm going to be shocked.

I have already said my piece to neil about Aikman vs. Bledsoe.

I inferred nothing about whether or not I believe he can win Super Bowls in Dallas. If you want to know whether I think he can or not please ask.

Fair enough?

You didn't mean to imply anything? So you were just throwing out random facts?

Let me clue you in to how debate works. When you bring up statistics and facts, they necessarily imply something. That's the whole reason you bring them up. It's your job to get your point across and mine to make sure I infer properly and understand what you mean. That is why I did ask you (slightly indirectly) if my inference was incorrect.

 

[big_neil]

You're also telling me that there is no way Henson or Romo could play as good or better. I'm interested in knowing how you can determine this? Upon what do you base this that is factual and not speculation?

And how does Hostile base his idea that Romo or Henson COULD play as good as Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season? Maybe they could have 6 Game Winning Drives? Maybe they'd have 25 TDs in their first season? Hey, Losman did it! Oh, wait....

 

[iceberg]

And how does Hostile base his idea that Romo or Henson COULD play as good as Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season? Maybe they could have 6 Game Winning Drives? Maybe they'd have 25 TDs in their first season? Hey, Losman did it! Oh, wait....

it's not their first season, is it?

and weren't you the one playing the IF IF IF game yesterday???

like i said, you won't allow it the other way, will you?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And how does Hostile base his idea that Romo or Henson COULD play as good as Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season? Maybe they could have 6 Game Winning Drives? Maybe they'd have 25 TDs in their first season? Hey, Losman did it! Oh, wait....

What exactly is a "Virtual Pro Bowl Season"?

 

[big_neil]

Hostile you should work for Monsanto. They make things like pesticide and Genetically Modified Seeds. They put the onus on the public to prove that these are damaging. But I think the onus should be on them to prove that they are not. Likewise with Romo/Henson - they need to prove that they are safe for the environment BEFORE they get a chance.

 

[iceberg]

What exactly is a "Virtual Pro Bowl Season"?

"virtual probowl season"
a season in which he was good so all his fans cried out into the NFL night that bledsoe was destined to hawaii so all would shut up about his talents. however, that didn't happen so now once again the floodgates of excuses come on board and this mighty "bledsoe fan base" has coined a new term for those who were "close but no cigar"

much like drews career, save 1 brady year. : ) it was a very brady christmas to him that year. >g<

 

[iceberg]

Hostile you should work for Monsanto. They make things like pesticide and Genetically Modified Seeds. They put the onus on the public to prove that these are damaging. But I think the onus should be on them to prove that they are not. Likewise with Romo/Henson - they need to prove that they are safe for the environment BEFORE they get a chance.

and if never put into the environment how do you know?

 

[big_neil]

What exactly is a "Virtual Pro Bowl Season"?

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a QBs numbers are as good or better as Pro Bowl players.

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a player matches the numbers he put up in another season when he not only went to the Pro Bowl but the Super Bowl.

And/or when a QB leads the fan votes all season, then gets stiffed because all of the black players voted for 71-rated Michael Vick because they insist on at least one token African American QB each year.

 

[Hostile]

And how does Hostile base his idea that Romo or Henson COULD play as good as Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season? Maybe they could have 6 Game Winning Drives? Maybe they'd have 25 TDs in their first season? Hey, Losman did it! Oh, wait....

Pay attention son, I don't want to have to eduacate you constantly.



I did not say either could step up. I aked what proof he had that they couldn't.

There's a difference there.

 

[big_neil]

and if never put into the environment how do you know?

You don't. Unless it's safe, you don't use people as Guinea Pigs.

 

[iceberg]

You don't. Unless it's safe, you don't use people as Guinea Pigs.

then it wouldn't ever get put there then would it? you telling me EVERYTHING EVER DEEMED safe in fact was when put into the real world?

only IF it were true, dude.

 

[big_neil]

I did not say either could step up. I aked what proof he had that they couldn't. There's a difference there.

They need to prove it in:

A) Preseason
B) Replacement for disastrous QB
C) Injury to starter.

 

[iceberg]

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a QBs numbers are as good or better as Pro Bowl players.

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a player matches the numbers he put up in another season when he not only went to the Pro Bowl but the Super Bowl.

And/or when a QB leads the fan votes all season, then gets stiffed because all of the black players voted for 71-rated Michael Vick because they insist on at least one token African American QB each year.

aka -some stupid term a blind fan came up with to make himself sleep better at night.

GET THE FREAK OVER IT DUDE.

 

[Zaxor]

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a QBs numbers are as good or better as Pro Bowl players.

A virtual Pro Bowl season is when a player matches the numbers he put up in another season when he not only went to the Pro Bowl but the Super Bowl.

And/or when a QB leads the fan votes all season, then gets stiffed because all of the black players voted for 71-rated Michael Vick because they insist on at least one token African American QB each year.

:doh:
someone please tell me I didn't just read that

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And/or when a QB leads the fan votes all season, then gets stiffed because all of the black players voted for 71-rated Michael Vick because they insist on at least one token African American QB each year.

LOL!!!!

So basically, it's a season in which you thought he deserved to go but nobody else did? Perhaps you should call it a "big_neil Pro Bowl Season". Another possible title for this could be "Any Season in which Bledsoe is on a team Pro Bowl Season".


It makes little difference at this point. I suspect you will have your hands full trying to defend your above statement. Couldn't happen to a more worthy poster IMO.

 

[Jarv]

And how does Hostile base his idea that Romo or Henson COULD play as good as Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season? Maybe they could have 6 Game Winning Drives? Maybe they'd have 25 TDs in their first season? Hey, Losman did it! Oh, wait....

Losman struggled, although I was impressed in his 1st game.

How about that superstar backup Holcombe, he actually rated higher with Buffalo this year (85.6) than Bledsoe did with Buffalo last year (76.6). Basically the same team...Same TD/INT ratio.

Apples to Apples on the same team, Buffalo. Only difference is last year compared to this year.

This year, your "Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season" QB rating was 83.7. Still behind what Holcombe did.

Last year with limitted time with the Browns, Holcombes rating was 96.8.

Things that make you go hmmm...Should we have picked Holcombe up last year ? He was availible. he actually got better at the end of the year instead of worse.

 

[big_neil]

:doh:
someone please tell me I didn't just read that

That's what I think after your every post, Puff.

 

[Doomsday101]

:doh:
someone please tell me I didn't just read that

I don't agree with that statement either but then I also don't agree with Vick and his poor numbers going to the Pro Bowl. I know I will get slammed by some but I also don't think Larry Allen should be on the Pro Bowl team.

 

[Zaxor]

Losman struggled, although I was impressed in his 1st game.

How about that superstar backup Holcombe, he actually rated higher with Buffalo this year (85.6) than Bledsoe did with Buffalo last year (76.6). Basically the same team...Same TD/INT ratio.

Apples to Apples on the same team, Buffalo. Only difference is last year compared to this year.

This year, your "Drew's virtual Pro Bowl season" QB rating was 83.7. Still behind what Holcombe did.

Last year with limitted time with the Browns, Holcombes rating was 96.8.

Things that make you go hmmm...Should we have picked Holcombe up last year ? He was availible. he actually got better at the end of the year instead of worse.

I was for it... because we could still play the young ones without ego's getting in the way

 

[Jarv]

That's what I think after your every post, Puff.

By the way, in case I missed it somewhere. I asked how many games have you seen Bledsoe play in (in this thread), besides this year for the Cowboys ?

FYI...I saw him play 8-9 times live and 30-40 times total.

Just want to know your history and understanding of Bledsoe.