Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

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jterrell said:
So what?
You do not need a franchise Qb to win a SB.

Drew was NE Franchise for many years. Nowadays he's a salary-cap bargain. I'd be surprised if his dollars/yard wasn't the lowest in the NFL.
 

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big_neil said:
PS - Drew has started 64 straight games. Joe Montana averaged only 12 games per season. Drew averages 15 (and could have played more in 2001).

Montana was hurt a great deal in his career. He missed several games. He was a great QB but he was hurt. Bledsoe's greatest attribute is his ability to stay healthy. The comparison between Montana and Bledsoe starts at the fact that they were both professional QBs who played in the NFL. It also stops right there.
 

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jterrell said:
So what?
You do not need a franchise Qb to win a SB.
It only happens that almost every year some guy who wasn't a traditional franchise guy wins a Super Bowl.

Brady became a franchise guy but was a 2nd day draft selection.
Dilfer.
Delhomme.
Warner.

By all means if you have a franchise QB in your pocket then pull him out.


JT, maybe not a "franchise" QB BUT usually you do need a guy that has had a very good season. Brady qualifies, Elway did, Farve did, Warner did.

Dilfer didn't... he's the exception BUT I think you'll agree that defense make a big difference.

It's questionable at 67 years old if Bledsoe is capable of a season that's "good enough".
 

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jterrell said:
So what?
You do not need a franchise Qb to win a SB.
It only happens that almost every year some guy who wasn't a traditional franchise guy wins a Super Bowl.

Brady became a franchise guy but was a 2nd day draft selection.
Dilfer.
Delhomme.
Warner.

By all means if you have a franchise QB in your pocket then pull him out.
Hello hyperbole.

Elway, 2
Staubach, 2
Montana, 4
Bradshaw, 4
Aikman, 3
Starr, 2
Brady, 3
Griese, 2


That's just multiple winners. Franchise QBs have won far more SBs than non franchise guys.
 

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anyone that votes no on this poll is an idiot. unitas would have been poor behind this line. you give drew time and he will be fine.
 
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MichaelWinicki said:
I voted "No".

Before the season started I said I would be very happy if Bledsoe was able to maintain an 85 passer rating.

And he did not.

At times he was terrific... other times dreadful. Yeah, the offensive line pass blocking was poor, but his lack of athletic ability made it even worse.

But the reason I don't want to see him back is that he'll be 34 next year... there is no "upside" to Drew-- None.

He is what he is.

He's probably good enough to get us into the playoffs but not much more than that. I don't see us being legit super bowl contenders with him at the helm. He has too many flaws that are easily defensed... even with an improved offensive line.

Drew's second year in Buffalo was far worse than his first. I expect the same here. Defenses know how to play him given this type of offense.

It's time to move on and take a stab at a younger guy with more athletic ability and more upside to his game.


Nothing to argue with here.
 

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aardvark said:
Thank you for that glaring, simple, yet so often overlooked evaluation... :eek:

so in 13 years he's never posted a 90+ rating for a full year.

has he ALWAYS had a "bad oline" excuse??? the best he ever had was an 87.7.

i think those who feel drew, after 13 years of proving his "patterns" will suddenly light it up next year are just a tad more nieve than those of us who think bill will eventually move on to ANYONE else.
 

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big_neil said:
Better no, more durable, absolutely. Montana missed 25% more games per season than Drew.

now if he could only turn that into this mytical "lights out" season people have been waiting 13 seasons for but for some reason he saved it for his 14th year.
 

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iceberg said:
so in 13 years he's never posted a 90+ rating for a full year.

has he ALWAYS had a "bad oline" excuse??? the best he ever had was an 87.7.

i think those who feel drew, after 13 years of proving his "patterns" will suddenly light it up next year are just a tad more nieve than those of us who think bill will eventually move on to ANYONE else.

When was the last time a Dallas QB outperformed Drew Bledsoe over the season?


The problem with ANYONE sentiments is when the game starts they become SOMEONE. You wanna toss Henson's stats out for that half game in Chicago for comparison's sake?
 

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jterrell said:
So what?
You do not need a franchise Qb to win a SB.
It only happens that almost every year some guy who wasn't a traditional franchise guy wins a Super Bowl.

Brady became a franchise guy but was a 2nd day draft selection.
Dilfer.
Delhomme.
Warner.

By all means if you have a franchise QB in your pocket then pull him out.

First of all you may not have to have one, but your chances of winning a Superbowl with one as opposed to without one are much better. Please do not even try to argue that one or would you rather explain to me why real NFL GMs keep searching year in and year out for that franchise QB with the #1 pick in the NFL draft.

By the way it does not matter where you are drafted. Leaf, Couch and Akili are sitting home. You have guys like Brady and Montana despite their draft position, are true franchise QBs.

If you do not look or attempt to get a franchise QB, you probably will not end up with one. Maybe our franchise QB is sitting on the bench, but at this rate some other team will know it before we do.
 

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iceberg said:
now if he could only turn that into this mytical "lights out" season people have been waiting 13 seasons for but for some reason he saved it for his 14th year.
...and yet after all that poor play he has already been to a super bowl and a couple of pro bowls.
 

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jterrell said:
When was the last time a Dallas QB outperformed Drew Bledsoe over the season?

The problem with ANYONE sentiments is when the game starts they become SOMEONE. You wanna toss Henson's stats out for that half game in Chicago for comparison's sake?

any particular reason you wanna compare a 13 year vet with someone who's played a year of college ball and finally got 1/2 a game to play?

and great. drew led us to being a point and a half over average. ya got me there. : ) as for who he's done better than - who cares. i'm looking at what he's done, what he's established for 13 years, and what he's likely to do next year. since he's never followed an 80+ rating season with another since 99, i see a potential downfall next year, just following HIS OWN trending.

then again, we've got a crappy OL - or drew would have "lit it up" just like he ALWAYS HAS. oh, wait...
 

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First of all you may not have to have one, but your chances of winning a Superbowl with one as opposed to without one are much better. Please do not even try to argue that one or would you rather explain to me why real NFL GMs keep searching year in and year out for that franchise QB with the #1 pick in the NFL draft.

By the way it does not matter where you are drafted. Leaf, Couch and Akili are sitting home. You have guys like Brady and Montana despite their draft position, are true franchise QBs.

If you do not look or attempt to get a franchise QB, you probably will not end up with one. Maybe our franchise QB is sitting on the bench, but at this rate some other team will know it before we do.
And if you win the Lottery you will rich but it makes more sense to go to work each day then to just spend your check on lotto tickets and quit right?


Dallas is looking for a franchise guy.
They drafted Carter, signed Hutch, signed Henson et al.

Some times you have to join the real world and try to actually win games.

The bright idea guys always fall just short of detialing who the next franchise guy and he we are gonna get him.
 

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jterrell said:
...and yet after all that poor play he has already been to a super bowl and a couple of pro bowls.

yay drew. better? he's still a sorta better than average qb who's been around the block for 13 years racking up sorta better than average numbers. that's what he's done for 13 years and next year are you going to see a brand new drew, or more of what you've seen for 13 years?

which is more likely?
 

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movinonout said:
As a skins fan, I kind of like Bledsoe. We got fortunate in that Dallas got him prior to the Danny breaking the bank for him.

Dallas needs him for at least another year. What other option do you have? Brad Johnson? Gus Frerotte? David Carr?

Not that it matter's, of course, but Brad Johnson, under less then perfect circumstances, has put together a very nice season.

In 9 games, he's thown for 62.6 % completion percentage this year. He's thrown for 1885 yards, 12 TDs and 4 INTs. His QB rating was 88.9. He went 7 and 2 om the games he started. I would take that.

As for Carr, I would take him now.
 

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jterrell said:
And if you win the Lottery you will rich but it makes more sense to go to work each day then to just spend your check on lotto tickets and quit right?

then do you like drew wanting to "go for it all" so often he holds on too long or does that bug you also? drew is more a "lottery ticket" qb than a consistant high performer we'd like to see.
 

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iceberg said:
any particular reason you wanna compare a 13 year vet with someone who's played a year of college ball and finally got 1/2 a game to play?

and great. drew led us to being a point and a half over average. ya got me there. : ) as for who he's done better than - who cares. i'm looking at what he's done, what he's established for 13 years, and what he's likely to do next year. since he's never followed an 80+ rating season with another since 99, i see a potential downfall next year, just following HIS OWN trending.

then again, we've got a crappy OL - or drew would have "lit it up" just like he ALWAYS HAS. oh, wait...
Compare him with anyone you want.
Just stop comparing him to air because air doesn't play QB.

If Bledsoe isn't here next year who is and what are his personal trends?

Its alot easier to squak then to actually propose a true solution.
When the 2006 NFL season starts we are going to have Drew Bledsoe at QB because he is the best player we will have to choose from.

Bottom line is fans are crying yet Bledsoe produced the best QB season we have had in almost a decade. All those down years for Drew surely the Boys were better at QB at least once right???
 

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big_neil said:
You are asking why 5-11 Buffalo let him go? Because they were stupid, obviously. They averaged 3 times as many wins with Drew as in the last 2 non-Drew years of 2001 and 2005 (8-24 vs 23-25).

Drew's average season:

3698 YD 21 TD 17 INT 77.3 rating 57% CMP 6.6 YPA

This season:

3639 YD 23 TD 17 INT 83.7 rating 60% Comp. 7.4 YPA

WHAT DID PEOPLE EXPECT?? Oh I see, they expected an 85 rating.

This team is not going to win a Superbowl this year or next year. That puts Drew Bledsoe about 36 when Dallas is in contention if the pieces fall in place.

Excuse me if I dont get excited about having Drew around. We can argue if he is a great QB or an average one and disagree obviously, but the fact remains he will be on the downside of his career when Dallas is supposed to be on an upswing.

Dallas needs a young QB period and .
 

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jterrell said:
...and yet after all that poor play he has already been to a super bowl and a couple of pro bowls.

Interesting thou that he didn't go this year. Further more, not many complaints from the press on it either.
 

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iceberg said:
then do you like drew wanting to "go for it all" so often he holds on too long or does that bug you also? drew is more a "lottery ticket" qb than a consistant high performer we'd like to see.
When Aikman was here we called that standing tall in the pocket waiting on the play to develop.
 
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