Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[iceberg]

When Aikman was here we called that standing tall in the pocket waiting on the play to develop.

aikman produced.

you can mix/match arguments all you want but we know what drew is and he will NEVER be a "lights out" season people seem to think he'll now find within himself cause he's a cowboy now.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Drew finished with an 83.7 rating with 23 TDs and 17 INTs and 3639 yards - second highest in Dallas history. He had his second straight winning season, but only had 10 TDs 11 INTs over the second half. Should he return for 2006?

Indubitably. Most definitely. Yes.​

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Interesting thou that he didn't go this year. Further more, not many complaints from the press on it either.

No he didn't did he.

But he did have his typical second half collapse... No one had to be "Kreskin" to call that one.

 

[jterrell]

Interesting thou that he didn't go this year. Further more, not many complaints from the press on it either.

Actually not true. There were a few national media who addressed that he should have gone out only a few talking about anyone missing the Pro Bowl.

But again what is the argument?
Drew wasn't quite Pro Bowl level.
Guess we have to cut Julius Jones and Jason Witten too since they didn't make the Pro Bowl.

 

[Jarv]

Not that it matter's, of course, but Brad Johnson, under less then perfect circumstances, has put together a very nice season.

In 9 games, he's thown for 62.6 % completion percentage this year. He's thrown for 1885 yards, 12 TDs and 4 INTs. His QB rating was 88.9. He went 7 and 2 om the games he started. I would take that.

As for Carr, I would take him now.

ABQ, Last Spring I was here begging for us to pick up Brad Johnson. I was laughed at, not the 1st time either...lol.

I agree with Ice, Bledsoe will not magically be better next year, he is on the downside of his career. Vinny T. put up good career numbers but never could get his team to the promised land.

Bledsoe had a good year for us, I would even say that I would be happy to keep him as a backup next year. But I want to start preparing for our future QB now.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

aikman produced.

you can mix/match arguments all you want but we know what drew is and he will NEVER be a "lights out" season people seem to think he'll now find within himself cause he's a cowboy now.

True.

If Drew was on any other team none of us would be overly impressed about his future.

 

[gbrittain]

And if you win the Lottery you will rich but it makes more sense to go to work each day then to just spend your check on lotto tickets and quit right?


Dallas is looking for a franchise guy.
They drafted Carter, signed Hutch, signed Henson et al.

Some times you have to join the real world and try to actually win games.

The bright idea guys always fall just short of detialing who the next franchise guy and he we are gonna get him.

That is the biggest bunch of baloney and you know it. It is not just the fact that Dallas has Drew Bledsoe.

BP choose to go with QC, VT and now DB. None of that strikes me as a serious committment to finding and developing a young QB. BP inherited QC and he brought in VT and DB.

The only attempt he has made at finding a young QB are Tony Romo and Drew Henson. Drew Henson had some hope just because he had NFL tools. Romo is a small guy from a Division II team.

I would say BPs effort to bring in a potential franchise QB have been nill. I dont expect him to win the lotto, but I do expect him to play.

 

[big_neil]

The comparison between Montana and Bledsoe starts at the fact that they were both professional QBs who played in the NFL. It also stops right there.

Correct - except here are some things we can compare:

192 Games for Montana
188 Games for Drew (fewer games)

40,551 Yards for Montana
43,441 Yards for Drew (more yards)

3404 Completions for Montana
3731 Completions for Drew (more completions)

31 Game Winning Drives for Montana
33 Game Winning Drives for Drew

Montana had more TDs and fewer INTs. He had a higher completion percentage and more YPA. He was much better in the playoffs than Drew, though Montana, Marino, Elway and Bledsoe were all 4-3 after their first 7 playoff games.

 

[big_neil]

Correction: Montana started 7-4 in his first 11 playoff games, 6-1 in his first 7.

 

[iceberg]

Correct - except here are some things we can compare:

192 Games for Montana
188 Games for Drew (fewer games)

40,551 Yards for Montana
43,441 Yards for Drew (more yards)

3404 Completions for Montana
3731 Completions for Drew (more completions)

31 Game Winning Drives for Montana
33 Game Winning Drives for Drew

Montana had more TDs and fewer INTs. He had a higher completion percentage and more YPA. He was much better in the playoffs than Drew, though Montana, Marino, Elway and Bledsoe were all 4-3 after their first 7 playoff games.

now, compare superbowl wins.

 

[jterrell]

aikman produced.

you can mix/match arguments all you want but we know what drew is and he will NEVER be a "lights out" season people seem to think he'll now find within himself cause he's a cowboy now.

I am pretty sure Aikman had a better OL when he was "producing" then Bledsoe has had. Pocket passers need protection. Hard-headed pocket passers like Aikman and Bledsoe need good protection.


Drew's "collapse" just happened to coincide with an undrafted free agent first time LT starter and rookie 6th round RT.

 

[Jarv]

Correct - except here are some things we can compare:

192 Games for Montana
188 Games for Drew (fewer games)

40,551 Yards for Montana
43,441 Yards for Drew (more yards)

3404 Completions for Montana
3731 Completions for Drew (more completions)

31 Game Winning Drives for Montana
33 Game Winning Drives for Drew

Montana had more TDs and fewer INTs. He had a higher completion percentage and more YPA. He was much better in the playoffs than Drew, though Montana, Marino, Elway and Bledsoe were all 4-3 after their first 7 playoff games.

One other thing...Joe was just so cool under pressure. His teams belived in him.

 

[big_neil]

But he did have his typical second half collapse...

4-4 versus 5-3 is a Collapse?? When they had an easy first half schedule and a brutal second half schedule? When they lost Flozell, and for all intents and purposes, Crayton?

They would have finished the second half 5-3 if it meant anything and we all know that. Again, you can keep celebrating the sad ending to the season.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

now, compare superbowl wins.

Ask him how many times Drew has led a team to the playoffs the last 1,460 days.

 

[jterrell]

now, compare superbowl wins.

How many Hall of Fame teammates has Drew had?
Did he have Jerry Rice and I missed it?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

4-4 versus 5-3 is a Collapse?? When they had an easy first half schedule and a brutal second half schedule? When they lost Flozell, and for all intents and purposes, Crayton?

They would have finished the second half 5-3 if it meant anything and we all know that. Again, you can keep celebrating the sad ending to the season.

Yawn.

How are those Bledsoe jammies? Warm?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Actually not true. There were a few national media who addressed that he should have gone out only a few talking about anyone missing the Pro Bowl.

But again what is the argument?
Drew wasn't quite Pro Bowl level.
Guess we have to cut Julius Jones and Jason Witten too since they didn't make the Pro Bowl.

If that is your wish, the so be it. However, let me just point out the simple fact, JT, that it was you who introduced the point of Drew being a "ProBowl QB and SuperBowl calibur" performer.

 

[jterrell]

One other thing...Joe was just so cool under pressure. His teams belived in him.

The Cowboys had more 4th quarter comebacks this year than they have in the preceeding 5 years total.

Ever hear Terry Glenn talk about Bledsoe?

 

[iceberg]

I am pretty sure Aikman had a better OL when he was "producing" then Bledsoe has had. Pocket passers need protection. Hard-headed pocket passers like Aikman and Bledsoe need good protection.

Drew's "collapse" just happened to coincide with an undrafted free agent first time LT starter and rookie 6th round RT.

i'm not talking last year, jt. i'm talking overall careers of which do NOT lend themselves to a single unfortunate season where bp picked the OL for HIS qb and we got what we normally get out of drew.

you can lob out whatever "incidental" fact you can, but i can still see 13 years of stats and see past the occasional "gotcha" that would explain a game or two.

what made drew collapse all the other times - go back and look, not just see THIS YEAR and think wow, a little of this, a little of that, he's LIGHTS OUT.

when has he EVER been "lights out" for a full year. give me that one or just stop with the fact-picking to justify a stance. you overlook 13 years of drew to hope he will also, i suppose.

 

[jterrell]

If that is your wish, the so be it. However, let me just point out the simple fact, JT, that it was you who introduced the point of Drew being a "ProBowl QB and SuperBowl calibur" performer.

Actually I noted for someone so mediocre he had achieved a few bench marks of success few can claim.

My feelings about Drew have been consistent since day 1.

He isn't a world beater at all and has weaknesses. You have to block for him and you need to run the ball. We didn't do either well and eh still had the best season by a dallas QB in almost ten years.