Would you want to sign Dak if he wasn't a Cowboy?

[Kingofholland]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

If we were currently in a spot personnel wise between the Aikman and Romo years this fan base would be fired up. However coming off three straight 12 win seasons feels a little different.

 

[Rockport]

But even in his prime and coming off his best year, he's still got a lot of questions about how good he really is. He churns up stats against bad and mediocre opponents and then tends to struggle with better opponents.

And that's the guy some want to hand the largest contract in NFL history (or one of the largest), that will certainly have ramifications for the overall roster. Again, it's not hard to understand why some people aren't gung ho with that prospect.

You’re projecting. You don’t know what the contract will be. And as far as struggling with better teams, I agree, Dak sucks on defense. He’s the worst I’ve ever seen at tackling. He’s only 238 lbs playing NT. And the man can’t run between the tackles for the life of him.

 

[Sydla]

You’re projecting. You don’t know what the contract will be. And as far as struggling with better teams, I agree, Dak sucks on defense. He’s the worst I’ve ever seen at tackling. He’s only 238 lbs playing NT. And the man can’t run between the tackles for the life of him.

Projecting? You deny he's going to get one of the largest contracts in NFL history?

And the 2nd part of your post here is typical head in the sand stuff from the Dak homers. It wasn't the defense that made Dak suck in that first half back in January, for example.

 

[Rockport]

mahomes wouldnt have won jack without a great defense. it helps alot when your defense doesnt give up more than 25 points but one time all year, and the great mahomes lost that game. The chiefs gave up more than 25 once all year, and the great mahomes couldnt win that game.

Their defense is great and dominated in the playoffs. Some Cowboys fans here don’t understand football. You have to be able to run the ball and stop the run against the better teams. Cowboys could do neither and the results show.

 

[jazzcat22]

In other words you are afraid of becoming a weaker team yet even more resistant to potentially becoming a better team with a stronger chance of winning the Superbowl.

Ask yourself would those Cowboy teams you mention have gone 5-1 with a practice squad quarterback? Cooper has shown that Prescott isn't a difference maker.

That 5-1 record is a lame argument. Not enough sample size to prove what you are saying.
I am not defending Dak by saying that. He has failed in the playoffs. As the team has.
The defense was playing lights out at that point. Later on they ran out of gas as usual. You know, they were "tired".

 

[jazzcat22]

Why would they sign a QB for that much, unless you think he is the missing piece. So far he has shown he is not come playoff time. Yes the defense sucked as well. But he has not had a good performance in the playoffs, with exception of the TB game.

They have a young QB in Lance, so I rather give him that opportunity. Or another young QB.

 

[Loso86]

Sorry, not following.

Sure

 

[TexasBacon]

Why would they sign a QB for that much, unless you think he is the missing piece. So far he has shown he is not come playoff time. Yes the defense sucked as well. But he has not had a good performance in the playoffs, with exception of the TB game.

They have a young QB in Lance, so I rather give him that opportunity. Or another young QB.

Seattle in 2018 was one of the few times I felt like Dak really put the team on his back in a big moment. He was just OK (at best) in the 2 SF losses, piss poor against GB, and I think played OK against the Rams in 2018. They should have won that game. He also played well against GB in 2016 but I feel like the entire 2016 season was an anomaly when it comes to this conversation. So, he's had one terrible playoff showing against GB, three excellent games against Seattle, GB, and TB, one decent game against the Rams, and two mediocre showings against SF. Not too bad but not $60m a year good either. I still think our best bet is him getting hot at the right time for once, but the question will continue to be if the Jones' will put a team around him who can compliment him enough for everything to come together at the right time.

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

If I play on grass? NO. You'll lose 8 games right there. If I'm in a cold region? NO. If I play in a tough division? NO.

 

[Bullflop]

Knowing how Dak responds to playoff games, it's tough to be willing to spend $60 million on a QB who freezes under pressure in the playoffs. No, if Dak weren't a Cowboys player, I wouldn't want to put up $60 million knowing he has that tendency. That amount of money going to a QB that's limited vs. a good playoff team would be excessive compensation. I think most GMs would try to avoid that possibility. Unfortunately, Jerry got himself caught up in contracts whereby he overpaid Dak unwittingly. Sadly, it's a problem that many QBs are routinely overpaid in the NFL, imho.

 

[Sydla]

Sure

Honestly, I have no idea what you were trying to say.

 

[cowboyec]

if our qb is crap...yes.
if we're defending champs...no.

 

[TwentyOne]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

Thats a good point.

Now let the Dak fanboys think about that over the weekend and see what they have to say come mondays.

 

[Loso86]

Honestly, I have no idea what you were trying to say.

Pretty much, if he played for any other team but Dallas most would think more highly of him. People say no because he's a Cowboy

 

[Sydla]

Pretty much, if he played for any other team but Dallas most would think more highly of him. People say no because he's a Cowboy

Ehhh possible but I think you overstate that.

Because how many people here gush about Kirk Cousins or would want to sign him? If you look, their careers are pretty much the same. Stats are similar, Dak has a couple more playoff wins than him but both have postseason struggles, etc.

I think if Dak played for someone else, most here would look at him just like they look at Kirk Cousins - good QB, likely not going to win a SB with him and a big risk signing him to a massive QB contract.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

Dak is good enough to get you to the playoffs

No he isn't. Cooper Rush has a 80% win rate with Daks roster. He most likely would’ve ridden this talented roster to a wild card birth but at least a winning record.


With the cowboys putting Al this talent around him, Dak would probably struggle to get us to the postseason . Once Zeke started to fall off and our oline wasn’t dominant anymore we saw what happened in 2019. The same thing that happened in 2017 when our wr core wasn’t good anymore and Zeke missed 6 games.


Aaron Rodgers is good enough to get a underwhelming team to the post season. Tom Brady can get a team to the postseason with less than underwhelming talent on offense.

If you put Dak in Kansas City, you think the Chiefs would be winning a Super Bowl last year? Only elite skill position they had on offense was the tight end.

You think Dak can get that Baltimore roster tot he postseason without an elite passing game?

 

[big dog cowboy]

On paper they look weaker

Completely disagree. They look better at OL, WR, CB, S, LB. Same at QB, TE, K, P. We don't know about DT, RB or DE yet.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Ehhh possible but I think you overstate that.

Because how many people here gush about Kirk Cousins or would want to sign him? If you look, their careers are pretty much the same. Stats are similar, Dak has a couple more playoff wins than him but both have postseason struggles, etc.

I think if Dak played for someone else, most here would look at him just like they look at Kirk Cousins - good QB, likely not going to win a SB with him and a big risk signing him to a massive QB contract.

Dak is better and younger than Cousins though. That being said I think the Cousins contract was a good move by Falcons.

 

[Floatyworm]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

Would you want to sign Dak?

Thanks for the laugh....Short answer

Not ever....

 

[McKDaddy]

That 5-1 record is a lame argument. Not enough sample size to prove what you are saying.

It doesn't invalidate that he beat winning teams with the same roster. It's a fact that he was the QB for those games. Which is in direct contrast to those who say & act like no QB other than #4 could have won any games with the teams we have fielded.

The QB's like Rush, Minshew, Flacco, Browning, etc., provide compelling evidence that most above average NFL rosters can have a .500 record or better with backup level QB. If you don't have an elite QB, build the crap out of the rest of your team while you look for one. You'll still be plenty competitive.