Would you want to sign Dak if he wasn't a Cowboy?

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Ask San Fran and Green Bay if they would want him. Ask those teams if they would want any of our "stars". I think they like us just the way we are.
 

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Here are the active QBs with Super Bowl rings:
Mahomes (3)
Stafford (1)
Wilson (1)
Flacco (1)
Rodgers (1)

Mahomes is the only with 1+ and the only that any team would build around.

So nobody outside of Mahomes is worth any money if we go by likelihood to win a championship.
yep.... and if its not possible to win a title after 8 or 9 years of not winning one, a new league rule should be implemented banning those players. Also note that all of those below Mahomes are about done with their careers.here did Flacco end up this year?
 

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Signing Dak would feel like the Cowboys just signed 60 mil a year to Gardner Minshew. Same player! Minshew could get this team to the playoffs but that's about it.
Ive never been a huge Dak fan, but give me a break about Minshew. Dak was 2nd in MVP voting last year. Remember when Dak broke his ankle? Get ready for a whole lot of that if he leaves.
 

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He’s the franchise QB in his prime coming off the best year of his career. Get all you can out of him.
But even in his prime and coming off his best year, he's still got a lot of questions about how good he really is. He churns up stats against bad and mediocre opponents and then tends to struggle with better opponents.

And that's the guy some want to hand the largest contract in NFL history (or one of the largest), that will certainly have ramifications for the overall roster. Again, it's not hard to understand why some people aren't gung ho with that prospect.
 

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Ask San Fran and Green Bay if they would want him. Ask those teams if they would want any of our "stars". I think they like us just the way we are.
I think both San Fran and GB would love to have Lamb and Parsons.
 

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Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.
Yes, those who say no. What QB besides Mahomes would you want right now!?
 

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But even in his prime and coming off his best year, he's still got a lot of questions about how good he really is. He churns up stats against bad and mediocre opponents and then tends to struggle with better opponents.

And that's the guy some want to hand the largest contract in NFL history (or one of the largest), that will certainly have ramifications for the overall roster. Again, it's not hard to understand why some people aren't gung ho with that prospect.
You know this is only because he plays for Dallas
 

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Signing Dak would feel like the Cowboys just signed 60 mil a year to Gardner Minshew. Same player! Minshew could get this team to the playoffs but that's about it.
minshew is so good, he is on his 5th team....wow...how far back did you reach for that one?
 

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Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.
I don't really think you can get an unbiased answser to this question. We already know what we have in Dak. If we went 3-14 last year with a different qb, you would probably get a lot of yes answers.
 

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On a LV Raiders Facebook post there was something about would you want to sign Dak next year if he becomes a FA - it was a resounding NO from Raiders fans.

There’s a reason why other teams fanbases want the cowboys to resign Dak. Good enough to be relevant but will never win the Lombardi.
 

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You are exactly right.........this can be true for most top 10 QBs not named Mahomes. It is why you also need defense, coaches and special teams
mahomes wouldnt have won jack without a great defense. it helps alot when your defense doesnt give up more than 25 points but one time all year, and the great mahomes lost that game. The chiefs gave up more than 25 once all year, and the great mahomes couldnt win that game.
 

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If we don't extend him and I am a fan of the Giants/Raiders/Jets...who are teams potentially interested if he becomes a FA I would in no world want my team to pay $65+ to sign him. If you are a team close to a championship you have your franchise QB. Of the 3 I mentioned only the Jets have a team on the cusp, and if AR leaves, I would imagine that they have so many young players they will need to extend soon, Dak's contract would hinder them... the same situation as here
 

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It's still 6 regular season games including 5 games in the same season. The Cowboys went 5-1 with Rush under centre. Do I consider Rush the answer? Of course not, but my point is relevant as it answers those who claim the coaching is poor and/or the roster is weak. How can that be the case when the team went 5-1 with a practice squad quarterback and beat a couple of good teams including the Bengals (with Burrow) who reached the SuperBowl just over 6 months beforehand?

So the reason why it's relevant to raise is well Prescott has a good winning record during the regular season (as does Rush with a far smaller sample size) yet falls flat on his face in the post season. In my view a top 5 QB wins both of the play off games against the 49ers and a top 10 paid QB has to win one of those games. Prescott had enough drives in both games to get it done at least once yet he was unable to execute in the clutch.

The loss against Green Bay was more on the defense but Prescott effectively handed them 14 points in the first half!

Why on earth would a team with Superbowl aspirations pay him elite money when he has clearly illustrated over the past 8 seasons that he is not an elite NFL quarterback?
You make fair points. I think what gets lost in the Dak discussion is the sheer lack of alternatives, and the lack of faith most have in this front office to find a replacement. With our luck they'd pull a SF and mortgage the future for a Trey Lance in the first round and we go back to QB purgatory. In your second reply you cite how Dak might be top 10 just due to the sheer lack of QB talent available today, yet the alternative to signing Dak is rolling the dice that this inept front office will actually find a good QB when they have only ever lucked into franchise QBs since Aikman. I think we are much likelier to win a SB with Dak finally getting hot at the right time than we are rolling the dice on a new QB. We've seen Dak play at a level that could win a SB, he just never does it at the right time, and no one can quantify or understand how or why the team keeps imploding in the playoffs. If they actually get strong in the trenches again and get a good running game Dak can absolutely lead this team to a championship. I just don't know how to reconcile the $60m a year with building a strong team around him. That seems like a tall task.... Plus, if you let Dak walk you effectively waste Lamb's prime, as you likely have a bandaid QB for a season or two until you can get high enough in the draft to where moving up won't cost you as much.

There's no perfect solution to this, but I do believe that at some point Dak will get hot at the right time for once.
 

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That's true but you have to realize that the Cowboys will be a weaker team than in years past. They will slip down to a 8-9 win team and surely won't win a playoff game.
On paper they look weaker, but no one knows until we play out the season how it will turn out. Seasons usually turn out better than expected when expectations are low. We’ll see if that holds true this season.
 
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